Hacking Can I restore my savegames from O2DS on N3DS?

[Sascha93]

Hey,
i have a problem:
I bought a N3DS, setup ALH9 and Luma3DS on it and sold my old 2DS.
Before, I made a nandmin.bin backup and saved all files on the 2DS SD card.
Now I want to get my save from Pokemon Moon back on the New 3DS.
Is there a way to do that with the data I saved or is the savegame lost now?
Pokemon Moon is bought from Eshop if that helps, no Cartridge.

 

[proflayton123]

Hey,
i have a problem:
I bought a N3DS, setup ALH9 and Luma3DS on it and sold my old 2DS.
Before, I made a nandmin.bin backup and saved all files on the 2DS SD card.
Now I want to get my save from Pokemon Moon back on the New 3DS.
Is there a way to do that with the data I saved or is the savegame lost now?
Pokemon Moon is bought from Eshop if that helps, no Cartridge.

Did you back up with a save manager? Essentially, it could be in the Nintendo 3DS folder with the title id of its name.

 

[Sketchy1]

Hey,
i have a problem:
I bought a N3DS, setup ALH9 and Luma3DS on it and sold my old 2DS.
Before, I made a nandmin.bin backup and saved all files on the 2DS SD card.
Now I want to get my save from Pokemon Moon back on the New 3DS.
Is there a way to do that with the data I saved or is the savegame lost now?
Pokemon Moon is bought from Eshop if that helps, no Cartridge.

if you generated xorpads from the source console, you could decrypt the dump then import the ticket and moveable.sed so the target can decrypt the source consoles id0/id1 folders, dump the save, then put the original ones of the target back into place, then restore the save

 

[Sascha93]

Did you back up with a save manager? Essentially, it could be in the Nintendo 3DS folder with the title id of its name.

No I didn't think about that
I thought the saves are in the Nintendo 3DS folder, it seems as they are there (told in different threads) but even if, I don't know how to make them work on the new system..

 

[Sketchy1]

Or maybe even simply xor the source save directly, then re-xor it with the target consoles , copy it back into place

 

[Sascha93]

if you generated xorpads from the source console, you could decrypt the dump then import the ticket and moveable.sed so the target can decrypt the source consoles id0/id1 folders, dump the save, then put the original ones of the target back into place, then restore the save

No, I didn't do that

 

[Sketchy1]

No, I didn't do that

Then unfortunatley i think your out of luck, as eshop version saves are encrypted by the 3ds, so therefore without the source console on your person, or the xorpads, the nand or save cant be decrypted to get them on the new console

 

[Sascha93]

Or maybe even simply xor the source save directly, then re-xor it with the target consoles , copy it back into place

I'm really new to 3DS (especially Homebrew on 3DS) and I don't know what xor is/means.
Could I somehow restore the nandmin.bin on a device or Emunand(I don't know what that is right now, but sounds as if it could emulate something? ) and dump the saves?

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Then unfortunatley i think your out of luck, as eshop version saves are encrypted by the 3ds, so therefore without the source console on your person, or the xorpads, the nand or save cant be decrypted to get them on the new console

Hmm what I got is the nand, and the folders where the saves should be inside.
Shit.. -_-

 

[Sketchy1]

I'm really new to 3DS (especially Homebrew on 3DS) and I don't know what xor is/means.
Could I somehow restore the nandmin.bin on a device or Emunand(I don't know what that is right now, but sounds as if it could emulate something? ) and dump the saves?

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Hmm what I got is the nand, and the folders where the saves should be inside.
Shit.. -_-

NO RESTORING IT TO EMUNAND AND TRYING TO BOOT IT WILL BRICK THE CONSOLE

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And xor is just a fancy term meaning decrypt using the xorpads

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It bricks because the new console dosent have the nessicery dependencies and files to decrypt the emunand, as each console is specific

 

[Sascha93]

NO RESTORING IT TO EMUNAND AND TRYING TO BOOT IT WILL BRICK THE CONSOLE

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And xor is just a fancy term meaning decrypt using the xorpads

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It bricks because the new console dosent have the nessicery dependencies and files to decrypt the emunand, as each console is specific

No, i won't do it, was just an idea I wanted you to ask about

Hmm okay.

So you're sure the saves are gone now?

Maybe if I find out where exactly the saves is stored on SD card, start a new game on the N3DS and override it with the old?
Or is the save encrypted and only usable with the old nand?

 

[proflayton123]

If you had xorpads of the nand backup you could of had a chance, without it as the above user said its console specific encrypted so you're out of luck sadly.

 

[Sketchy1]

No, i won't do it, was just an idea I wanted you to ask about

Hmm okay.

So you're sure the saves are gone now?

Maybe if I find out where exactly the saves is stored on SD card, start a new game on the N3DS and override it with the old?
Or is the save encrypted and only usable with the old nand?

every single file on the sd created by the 3ds, is encrypted. So no, simply overrriding wouldnt work

 

[Sascha93]

Hmm okay, ****!
Really much time just waisted now...
Thanks for your quick replies though

 

[Cuphat]

You could have either used a save manager such as JKSM to dump an unencrypted copy of the saves or you could have done a system transfer from your old console to the new one to allow it to decrypt the files on the SD card. Without doing either of those, you are out of luck.

 

[Sascha93]

You could have either used a save manager such as JKSM to dump an unencrypted copy of the saves or you could have done a system transfer from your old console to the new one to allow it to decrypt the files on the SD card. Without doing either of those, you are out of luck.

Okay, should have looked that up before selling the old one
My last thought about that but I guess not working too:
could calling Nintendo help maybe, can they open a way to get back the save?

 

[Cuphat]

Okay, should have looked that up before selling the old one
My last thought about that but I guess not working too:
could calling Nintendo help maybe, can they open a way to get back the save?

No.

 

[Sascha93]

Okay thank you.

 

[Sascha93]

Oh wait...
I downgraded the NFIRM of my old 2DS with another CFW 3DS from a friend.
Therefore i did a systemtransfer from his 3DS to mine.
After his 3DS was formatted by the systemtransfer, I just restored a Nand backup on the 3DS and his saves and games on SD Card where right there like before.
Could I use his system to restore my files then?
Because after the transfer his savefiles worked on my DS, why would't mine work on the 3DS then?

 

[Cuphat]

Only if you didn't format the 2DS before creating those saves. If his 3DS uses the same folder names within the Nintendo 3DS folder of the SD card as your 2DS, you could use his 3DS to dump the saves using JKSM and then restore those on your new console.

If you formatted your 2DS after the system transfer, that is not an option.

 

[Sketchy1]

Oh wait...
I downgraded the NFIRM of my old 2DS with another CFW 3DS from a friend.
Therefore i did a systemtransfer from his 3DS to mine.
After his 3DS was formatted by the systemtransfer, I just restored a Nand backup on the 3DS and his saves and games on SD Card where right there like before.
Could I use his system to restore my files then?
Because after the transfer his savefiles worked on my DS, why would't mine work on the 3DS then?

That's because after the transfer, your friend restored a backup, therefore your system and your friends system both share the same id0/id1 folders.

Therefore, as long as neither party hasn't formatted since then, you should theoretically be able to slap your save into his console, then dump it.

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But of course, I reiterate that point too,
As long as the saves were created after, your should be fine slapping them into his