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[Arecaidian Fox]

Can't you just get them online in CIA format already?

The issue with that is it takes a LOT of hunting to find .CIAs, at least for me. I tried to find good sources for them first, but concluded it was easier to rip or download my own .3DS files and convert them, as those are more readily available than .CIAs. What's throwing me off here is that out of the six .3DS files I converted, only one works. I used the exact same method for every single ROM, so I'm left wondering what's so different about it.

 

[Ronhero]

The issue with that is it takes a LOT of hunting to find .CIAs, at least for me. I tried to find good sources for them first, but concluded it was easier to rip or download my own .3DS files and convert them, as those are more readily available than .CIAs. What's throwing me off here is that out of the six .3DS files I converted, only one works. I used the exact same method for every single ROM, so I'm left wondering what's so different about it.

I use that iso site and they usually have everything I need

 

[Rafahzn]

Im looking into buying a O3ds with Fw 3.0,whats the most reliable method to get to Fw 4.x to install rxtools.If i use a OOT(usa) will it upgrade and have the internet browser? Thx

 

[Ronhero]

From 3.0 cart update to 4.x and install mset or cart update to 9.0-9.2 and use themehax and autoboot.

If you update to 9.0 first you will need cubic ninja to get the browser

 

[Rafahzn]

From 3.0 cart update to 4.x and install mset or cart update to 9.0-9.2 and use themehax and autoboot.

If you update to 9.0 first you will need cubic ninja to get the browser

Okk,i can get a OOT,so ill use that to update to 4.x.Does the 3.0fw has the internet browser already?

 

[lemanuel]

Okk,i can get a OOT,so ill use that to update to 4.x.Does the 3.0fw has the internet browser already?

If you update to 4.x, it doesn't really matter if it has a browser or not because you can use a DS flashcart and use the Mset (profile) exploit.
In any case, if the last digit isn't 4.x.x.-0 (zero), then it means it has a browser. If it is like that, then the browser isn't installed.

 

[FF777]

Hello..
So, here is my problem: I am trying to run a back-up game ("fire emblem if") but I can't get past the 3DS loading screen.. I suspect that the game is too new for gateway..

Here is what I have:
N3DS. Gateway. SysNAND: 9.2.0. EmuNAND: 9.2.0.

I am trying to boot it (a .3ds file, not a .cia) in gateway mode, but the red and black 3DS loading screen (with the animated waves) just keeps looping for ever and the game never starts..

Doing some research, it seems that this game wants 9.7.0+ firmware..
So my question is: Is it possible to play this yet? And if so, what do I need to do?.. Gateway emunand can't go above 9.5.0 or some thing I think.. So, is there a way to spoof the firmware even on emunand?.. Or is there some type of CFW released yet that can go higher than 9.5.0 in emunand?..

 

[lemanuel]

All CFWs work like Gateway. So they can't go past 9.5 firmware in emunand.
I don't have a N3DS so I never tested that game with one and I can't be sure. However you can try to update your emunand to the max limit (9.5) to see if that changes something. There might also be cripto-fixed versions of the game (modified to work with lower firmware). So if that's the case, you can try to search for it.

 

[RegularMoron]

Question:

What is a "kernel hack"?
Is launching a CFW on n3ds 9.0 using a kernel hack?

 

[BobDoleOwndU]

Question:

What is a "kernel hack"?
Is launching a CFW on n3ds 9.0 using a kernel hack?

There are two types of exploits or "hacks" used with the 3DS right now. Userland and Kernel. Userland exploits are directly accessible by the user and offer the ability to run unsigned code with a lot of restrictions; usually the same set of restrictions that apply to the application that's being exploited. Kernel is a deeper exploit. Kernel exploits involve gaining some control over the processors, which allow you to run much less restricted unsigned code. There are two processors in the 3DS, ARM11 and ARM9. ARM11 kernel access will give you the ability to do some things you can't do with userland such as the ability to install legit cias. The majority of the security for the 3DS is in ARM9. This is the processor hackers want to gain control of. ARM9 kernel access gives you nearly full control over the system. With ARM9 kernel access, you can install unsigned cias, run CFW, etc.... Kernel exploits are accessed by creating ROP (return-oriented programming) chains from userland exploits.

Yes, launching CFW on a 9.0 N3DS involves using a kernel exploit.

 

[normal19]

Is it possible to install DS game to NAND with CFW?

 

[lemanuel]

Is it possible to install DS game to NAND with CFW?

No. Only way to play DS games is with a DS flashcart.

 

[Adamgm10]

So I just got a Sky3DS the other day is it okay if I update to 10.1.0-27U?

I'm not really sure if there's a difference between 10.1.0-27 and 10.1.0-27U.

 

[DaftMink]

So I just got a Sky3DS the other day is it okay if I update to 10.1.0-27U?

I'm not really sure if there's a difference between 10.1.0-27 and 10.1.0-27U.

The U just means your system is US and not Europe or Japan.
Feel free to update if you don't want custom firmware.

 

[TheIcarus]

Prepare for tons of questions as I have no idea what I'm doing

1. Alright I'm new to hacking, and basically have no idea what any of the terms mean. What does CWF, CIA etc. mean, and what do they entail?

2. I have tubehax on my 3ds (both old and new with 9.0 on both) which CWF/CIA converter thingy should I use? (Pasta, Gateway, Sky etc.)

3. What exactly do the aforementioned things do? While I've read and watched tutorials on how to download them, they never really explained what they do. While I get the general idea is to install ROMs, how exactly do they do it, i.e. what do I need to have and do in order to install the ROMs?

4. How easy are these tools to use? most tutorials make it seem more complicated as I really have no idea what I'm doing.

5. So once I have something like Pasta on my 3ds what do I do then? Do I download ROMs? but then how do I load them on the 3ds itself? Also if someone could say what each program does that would be helpful as well

6. Can I download ROMs regardless of region? I have a US console, but can I play games from Japan or Europe?

7. Also where can I find ROMs?

Sorry if there are a lot of questions. If you can't answer all of these it's fine, I'd just like to get a general sense of what I'm doing, and I'm pretty sure most of my questions don't make sense anyway, so really if you could just clarify things that would be helpful

Thanks

 

[SonicRegret]

1.CIA stands for CTR Importable Archive/roms for 3ds that are for your home menu, like eshop apps.
2. A good ninjhax/tubehax CFW launcher would be pasta for installing said cias via FBI(A CIA installer for ninjhax)
4. The tools are easy to use if you thoroughly follow the tutorial and check to make sure everything works.
5. To install CIA's, just put them on your 3ds's sdcard/microsdcard and use FBI to install them.
6. Cia's are also reigon specific unless stated that they are reigon free, they will only install on a console with the matching reigon. Maybe cfws have support for reigon free cias.)
7.thatisosite.com(we're not allowed to tell you where you can find cia's online, google is your friend)(PM me if you want me to give you cias plz.)

 

[lemanuel]

1. Alright I'm new to hacking, and basically have no idea what any of the terms mean. What does CWF, CIA etc. mean, and what do they entail?

CFW is Custom Firmware. The ones we have right now aren't permanent ones but only temporary. Meaning that you have to load them each time you power on the console. They patch certain regions of the console's system (mostly RAM patching) and allow you to do stuff like having region free, loading roms, installing not official stuff, etc...

CIA is like a digital archive and it works like eShop downloads. You put the CIA file in the SD card of the console and by using a CIA installer (Bigbluemenu, FBI, Devmenu, etc) you can install the games/apps/system files/etc that are inside the CIA archive. Depending on what you're installing, it gets stored in different places (either the console's NAND or the console's SD card). Might be simpler to use than to understand.

You might also hear about Sysnand. Sysnand is your console's real system or NAND (where the system files are stored). Every time you boot your console, you're using your sysnand. In order to use stuff like CFWs, your sysnand can't be above 9.2.

You might also hear about Emunand. Emunand is a copy of your console's real system or emulated NAND. It gets stored in a hidden partition of the console's SD card and has several purposes. One of them is being a safety layer since you can update it at will or install stuff in it and your real system will remain safe. Emunand can be updated to the latest firmware (10.1) when using a O3DS (Old 3DS) and up to 9.5 when using a N3DS (New 3DS). You can only have emunand if your real system has firmware 9.2 or below as well.

2. I have tubehax on my 3ds (both old and new with 9.0 on both) which CWF/CIA converter thingy should I use? (Pasta, Gateway, Sky etc.)

Honestly speaking, since both of your consoles have exploitable firmware, a free solution is always better. So for O3DS I recommend rxTools and for N3DS I recommend Reinand. You can find their threads here in the forum and you can also find guides on how to set them up in the forum's Tutorials section.

3. What exactly do the aforementioned things do? While I've read and watched tutorials on how to download them, they never really explained what they do. While I get the general idea is to install ROMs, how exactly do they do it, i.e. what do I need to have and do in order to install the ROMs?

I think I already explained in a general way this one before so I'll skip it. If someone else wants to explain better, be my guess.

4. How easy are these tools to use? most tutorials make it seem more complicated as I really have no idea what I'm doing.

Depends on your adaptability and on what you intend to do. But after reading a few guides and after asking a few questions, you should be able to handle it without much difficulty. It just feels like that now since you're new. Don't be afraid to ask questions.

5. So once I have something like Pasta on my 3ds what do I do then? Do I download ROMs? but then how do I load them on the 3ds itself? Also if someone could say what each program does that would be helpful as well

CFWs can only install CIAs. They can't use .3ds roms (the ones flashcart can use). So basically you install them the way I already explained above. For games, they'll appear in the home menu just like if you had downloaded them from eShop and you can play them normally.
Btw... Pasta CFW is discontinued and the team in charge of it is now working on rxTools. Some people still keep using Pasta but I would recommend choosing one that has an active team behind it, especially since Pasta doesn't even support emunand.
CakesFW, Reinand and rxTools are all options but like I said before, I recommend Reinand.

6. Can I download ROMs regardless of region? I have a US console, but can I play games from Japan or Europe?

Some CFWs have region free (at least rxTools has it for O3DS). Others don't but CIAs are be made region free (and mostly available like that already online). So no need to worry.

7. Also where can I find ROMs?

Google is your friend. You can't ask that here and we can't say either. You can however use the keywords "ISO" and "3DS" to search in Google.

 

[TheIcarus]

@lemanuel @SonicRegret

Thank you two very much. I think I have a better understanding of what I'm doing now.

Basically I have to get a CIA installer if I want to get ROMs downloaded on my 3ds

Also do either of you have the download link for the FBI Installer since I couldn't find it when I searched the forum

And nice Geass sig Sonic

 

[DaftMink]

@lemanuel @SonicRegret
Thank you two very much. I think I have a better understanding of what I'm doing now.
Basically I have to get a CIA installer if I want to get ROMs downloaded on my 3ds
Also do either of you have the download link for the FBI Installer since I couldn't find it when I searched the forum
And nice Geass sig Sonic

You'll need to install a CFW to be able to .CIA files.
FBI can be found here though: https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-fbi-open-source-cia-installer.386433/

 

[SonicRegret]

https://github.com/Steveice10/FBI/releases
Just install as .3dsx and launch after launching pasta in hbl to install cias.