Do you believe in life after death?

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I'm not getting in the discussion about "my religion wins over your opinion" that is going over here, cause for me, the discussion itself is wrong by default.

Religion "can" be used to suggest a first idea, that can be studied or analyzed scientifically, to then, create a based opinion.. ..but using religion itself as a opinion-base for a discussion like this ...Nah, don't.



Human egos are frail, and have a tough time accepting their finite nature "I'm such a wonderful valuable creature, there must be some further existence for me after this one..."

That's indeed a simplistic thought and a weak base for afterlife ideas, like Heaven and Hell.


The truth? You are a complex chemical reaction, the ultimate product of which is dust and bones.

The problem? This is also a simplistic base for explaining the innerworks of our mind, specially with nowadays science.

Advanced Math and Physics theorizes in a lot of ways that the main way of mind definition (processes of decision making, human memory, concepts and conceptual reasoning, human judgment, and perception ..pretty much the calculus that make who we are) they have a quantum nature as base.
It's also theoretically possible, that this Quantic Base could also endure beyond or physical body, since it doesn't necessary would need your meat and bones to be.

Again... this are still based on theories (some are actually advanced already though).. I saw people talking about this points also using Supersymmetry as one of the tools to understand how the Quantum Processes could exist beyond or known matter (it's also interesting, but I don't know much about this one to tell much :P )



So yea... ..Science is not as sure as you think :creep:
 

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Nope. Once I die, I will cease to exist as a conscious entity. I will experience nothing; no heaven, no hell; no light, no darkness; no time. I will be what I was prior to my conception: Nothing.
 

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I believe we turn into Mako.
So we turn into a teenage girl?
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Heaven exists; but only those who believe Jesus died (and was resurrected) to save us from our sins can get there.
reminds me of this funny scene:
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I like to think that there is something after life, but I think there is nothing. on the other hand it doesn't really matter i guess.
 

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Heaven exists; but only those who believe Jesus died (and was resurrected) to save us from our sins can get there.

Agreed, but that belief is becoming rather unpopular in some circles. I used to be a very militant atheist as well so I've been on both sides of this issue, but some very personal experiences that I'd prefer not to talk about openly have led me to believe in God. IMO, the rational mind alone will never be able to explain all of creation, much less whether life after death exists; spirituality and rationalism are connected in some ways and very different in other ways. Faith is one of those things you either "get" or simply can't comprehend. I've been on both sides of the fence so I understand why people think religion is nonsense. Spiritual/near death experiences will change your mind though.

Also, to the people being inflammatory towards people who believe: It's not going to change peoples' minds. I used to make fun of religious people too and all it does is make you sound like a dick. Looking back I'm ashamed of how arrogant I was about there being no God.

Don't dismiss things just because you can't explain/don't understand them.
 
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It always amuses me how people always talk about what happens after death, but scarcely ever mention what technology's rise might (emphasis on the might here) end up doing to actually resolve the problem of death.

Now I'm not saying that I know for sure that this will happen within our lifetimes or anything, but I think that, once you recognize that there isn't anything after death and that death is the ultimate end, you should look to solve the problem of death directly.

Look for a way out. That is the test of existence; natural selection of the ages, as it were. Writing a book about it.
 
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Some random thoughts:

I've seen a tv program where they said pictures/painting of "heaven/hell" or "light tunnel" existed before the bible or other religious text.
Religious text only incorporated the people's experiences and repots in their texts. not the other way around.
religious text are not that old, Egypt and Sumeria are a lot older and they both had their stories about life after death, or going to hell or heaven. and funny fact, bible was written before christ. it can't be based on it/him being resurrected.
I don't know if the painting they displayed were really from before christ and the idea of "god and heaven" was before-christ, but it exists in other religion and civilization and for a long time.

Now, I don't believe in a god, but I might believe in another, parallel, world. not sure if it's where spirit goes or belong, or if it's just things scientist can't explain yet when "someone who is supposed dead comes and tell something to a living person that he/she can't possibly know".

from people who came back or had NDE, they are either saying they saw a light tunnel (heaven), or they fell (hell), or didn't see anything (Nothingness).
Now why Hell would be down and Heaver above? who decided that direction or location?

If you believe in "heaven", which a lot of people says it's in "the sky", what happen if you die in space?
What happen if you die on other planets? would you reincarnate only on that same planet? why would you be stuck and limited to a specific planet if we can travel and die in space?


If you believe in ghosts and poltergeist, Do you think it's only human's entity? can't it be mosquito's soul searching vengeance because you killed it before going to bed ? :P

Oh, and isn't the correct word "life after life" ?
before life after death would be reincarnation.

Enough of random thoughts...
as long as we can't freely communicate with or travel to that places, it will be only speculation.
 
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Stardust you fool.

If there's life after death, I want it to be filled with cutie guys that have their way with me.

So you have an entire universe, or indeed entire logic you can cook up, of possibilities and you only want cute guys? Talk about not making the most of something.
 
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Death is death. Sometimes it's temporary, but that only means restoration to life and not some sort of ghostly apparition, and usually doesn't result in ascension to heaven.

When most people die they just die. No consciousness survives.
 

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So you have an entire universe, or indeed entire logic you can cook up, of possibilities and you only want cute guys? Talk about not making the most of something.

What's better then a room filled with cute guys!?
Well.. a sunny field with cuties n watching cuties.
Actually... I dunno what I want, but it's going to be something gay for sure.
 

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If this post life lark sees me able to recreate physics from the ground up I am sure I could think of something. Even without that a room full of attractive people with genitals I am inclined to fumble with still seems like wasting a good opportunity.

I am also reminded of one of my favourite Billy Connolly sketches
 
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