No more brick today?
Well, I guess all bricks were planned to yesterday.
Well, I guess all bricks were planned to yesterday.
Hacking Gateway update regarding rumors
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No matter how unethical gateways method, you have to admit that they could of been much worse, they could of just set a specific date to brick everyone, instead they used a method that would at least give people a chance to avoid getting bricked by reverting back to an older firmware, so even the people who want to make out that gateway are the devil must admit, that it was obviously only intended to scare everyone as opposed to just brick everyone using a clone.......from what I have read I have only seen like 20-30 cases of bricks......I would imagine that the clones sold a hell of a lot more than 20-30 clones.....so the code gateway used was enough to scare the clones users into realising they where at the mercy of gateway, whilst not just bricking hundreds of people simultaneously
Totally agree. Apart from the fact that they are bricking a users console and not the competitors product.. which im sure they could do as well its a clone of their product.. kill the competion not the people watching.
Nice tactics. Fight with users while you should fight against clone sellers.
Thats how you kill your respect within few hours
Thats how you kill your respect within few hours
It's actually more logical to kill people's belief that the clones are safe, than playing cat and mouse with the clone companies
Yeah peoples "respect" for the gateway team might take a knock but I think at this point any faith that had been placed in the clones is pretty much zero
Yeah peoples "respect" for the gateway team might take a knock but I think at this point any faith that had been placed in the clones is pretty much zero
Perhaps I can draw an analogy for that too hmmm..
Clone carts wanted to find a way to get the money without getting themselves involved,
so they initially raided the house multiple times.
Clone carts spread their fame by telling their friends that "the plan works" and their friends blindly entered. (clone cart users purchased clone carts).
Fellow friends of CC friends advised against the raid, as CC's methods are sketchy (GW fan boys saying don't buy clone carts, cause it's a knockoff),
But CC friends insists on doing it, as they want a quick rich scheme. (users purchasing clone carts because its cheaper)
GW finally implemented the security and CC friends all went straight to their doom.
(clone cart users got bricked as they didn't heed to warnings from tempers and GW alike,
and their 3DS' are brutally murdered by the newly enforced security).
Don't believe everything everyone tells you, especially on the internet.
If you judged wrong, then learn from previous mistake.
(For the record, again, no offense to some. I do understand some may not have heard of GW before R4i [the 3DS cart] or MT.
But seriously, do some market research first.)
That's completely true.
When GW releases multirom and Pokemon, users will flood to play.
Just that... users may want to make sure that no kill code is in the launcher.dat XD
It's just a shame people didn't listen to logic before calling anyone who dared to suggest that the clones methods would probably backfire fanboys like the immature idiots they are, I realise some people may have been unaware.....but let be honest pretty much anyone on GBAtemp was fully aware and just thought that the clones where unstoppable....it's was their blind faith/arrogance that was the undoing of both the cloners and the clone users
so let me get this straight gateway put in their firmware a bricking code for those who have cloned flash kits? and if you had a 3dslink or r4 clone of gateway your 3ds would brick due to the cloned firmware?
It's all unconfirmed rumors at this point but does look pretty likely that gateway put some copy protection into their firmware, the clones blindly copied the firmware and disabled security checks and it blew up in their face
It wouldn't actually surprise me if the code was put in to only effect the clone makers themselves and brick "their" console....unfortunately it might just be that gateway overestimated them, and the clones didn't even bother to test and just released the firmware
It wouldn't actually surprise me if the code was put in to only effect the clone makers themselves and brick "their" console....unfortunately it might just be that gateway overestimated them, and the clones didn't even bother to test and just released the firmware
No it did not. The clone manufactures got their product sold and got their money. The end-user which might not even heard of Gateway got fucked up.
But yeah it did hit users, but this is down to the cloners not testing the firmware......it's still not gateways fault that people copied their code, the clone users should be venting on their clones so-called developers, who just took their money and use them as guinea pigs
Not just that, but any modified launcher by the sounds of it. So, even if you had a Gateway card and liked the look of one of the clone menus a bit more, you could end up with a bricked 3DS.
It didn't blow up in "their face". They've got their money, and when they go back to using the safe firmwares, they'll make some more. The only people that lost out here are those that tried to save a bit of money by going with the "value" brand.
People keep wording their responses like it's the clone manufacturer's fault. It's not. The Gateway team wrote the routine that bricks the console. Sure, the clone companies ripped off the product and they're taking some of that lucrative market share, but is that any reason to punish the consumer? Not all of them would be aware they're purchasing a clone. Regardless of what people may think of clone companies, bricking consumer hardware to spite your competitors is about as low as any company could get.
Gateway's actions are despicable.
I don't think any gateway users would use a clone firmware that is exactly the same menu as the menu they have except they have removed the gateway logo, not to mention it wouldn't even work with their card so it's a double pointless point to make
Once again it is not gateways responsibility to provide a universally safe menu for people who do nothing except copy and claim work is their own and profit from that work that took gateway months to achieve, yeah it's bad that users got effected....but if the clones did their single very very basic job properly which is to test what they are releasing none of this would of happened. But no it's all gateways fault apparently that
A) the clones are copying their code
B) the clones are too stupid to notice the brick code while they go about disabling the security on the firmware
C) test the code properly before they just release it to consumers
D) that people just buy the cheapest option without looking into why its cheap
E) that clone users believe they had won some battle against the very people who made the work they where using
Should I go on?
Gateway can do what they like with their code in terms of traps or copy protection.........it's their code if you don't like it don't use it
Its a super scummy and despicable business tactic, no question.
But it is still a 100% the Clone Manufacturers fault.
THIS^!
It is funny to think that gateway initially put that code in to brick that actual clone markers' 3ds.
But the lazy clone team didnt even bother to test the firmware, just copy,paste and release like the last firmwares and it ended up biting the users.
Had the clone team done some actual WORK, like testing, this would have all been avoided. (for the majority of people, save for those using the region-free mod).
If they wanted to just fuck up the cloner's 3DSes, they would have made it brick 100% of the time instead of randomly. I'm assuming they did this to make it seem like the clone cards are unreliable, not to mess with the cloner's 3DSes. Testing wouldn't help since it's random. It could just not appear in testing.
They aren't punishing their consumers, they're punishing clone cart consumers.
Nevertheless, no one had to be punished if:
1. GW continued to allow themselves from being rip-offed?
(I gotta say, they got everyone's attention, and will be taken seriously from now on)
2. Clone carts team actually bothered to check the code.
To reverse engineer and understand how the code works.
If they did that, they would have found it.
Despite my reasoning, I still agree to that point XD
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