Gaming Pokemon X: Bank Hack Paradise

[Clydefrosch]

its disappointing that I probably could have made a better hack check than this. heck, battle spot inside the game has a better hack check than the bank, they block unreleased abilities from being used online. but why didnt bank block those from making it into the game to start with?

all the bank checks for seems to be abilities and attacks, which is pretty sad considering that nintendo should have all the information necessary to make blocklists for unreleased pokemon/abilities, impossible move combinations (i bet you it would let a seismic toss/wish blissey through), for pokemon in cherrish balls, pokemon caught on the wrong routes etc etc.

I just read that you can actually give gen5 pokemon the kalos mark before you transport it by changing a certain byte.

 

[Black-Ice]

you obviously have no clue what "legal" really is, if you actually tried taking these pokemon to the GTS on 4th or 5th gen you would get an error code due to the hack check, pokemon bank was suppose to be a clone, it needed to check if the PID is valid and if it matches the iv's as well as the correct date met for generating that specific PID for 4th gen pokemon, moves and abilities that are available and met place and at xx lv and so on, the game actually checked everything, but as for bank its obviously just lazy programming...

You obviously think you're hot shot but you're not.
I've placed millions of genned pokemon on GTS and in online battles/tournaments. You know why? Because I did everything correctly, I matched up all the ID's and didnt create anything illegal. If you got an error code, its means you're inept.
The pokemon making it through have just as much right to make it through as legit in-game caught pokemon. You lot are all acting like its impossible to beat a legit genned pokemon, if you're a good trainer, there's no difference

 

[pokefloote]

You obviously think you're hot shot but you're not.
I've placed millions of genned pokemon on GTS and in online battles/tournaments. You know why? Because I did everything correctly, I matched up all the ID's and didnt create anything illegal. If you got an error code, its means you're inept.
The pokemon making it through have just as much right to make it through as legit in-game caught pokemon. You lot are all acting like its impossible to beat a legit genned pokemon, if you're a good trainer, there's no difference

Even if you aren't a good trainer, there's no difference. Even if hacks couldn't get through via Nintendo's voodoo magic, they'd still be up against IV bred, EV trained 'mons. Either way, they are fighting the same thing, more people need to understand this.

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<3 you B-I

 

[Queno138]

It's true.

A Pokemon that is "re-created" to appear "Legal", as though generated "Legit", even shines and stats and whatever get's through!
It's not any different from people who have EV trained Pokemon and Flawless IVs; the only difference here is the illusion of "time taken to get the Pokemon".


With no mental clarity, strategy, or whatever stroke of luck, you lose.

What this all means is simply,
When people lose online, they will fall to escapism and "blame hackers".

/coughcoughcoughsoreloserscoughcough/

 

[VMM]

Oh, I count "illegal" purely as having illegal stats/moves, things that specific pokemon simply cannot do.
Dream word abilities still count as legal in my mind, and clearly game freaks, as they're programmed into the game.
A bit like me having an Arceus, I got it by action replaying the item to battle it in diamond so its legal, but of course I had to generate the item to do so

But there are clear illegal Pokémon getting trough.
A Gengar lvl 1. A Infernape caught with a Premier Ball.
Pokemon caught in the wrong route.

There are many things that could easily be checked to see if a Pokémon is hacked or not.
We all expected that perfectly hacked Pokemon got trough Pokemon Bank, but those who are absurd hacks should have been banned easily.
Also, about Dream World ability, Nintendo should be able to check this easily and ban the hacked pokémons since the only way to have some of them are trough events that are made by Nintendo.

 

[Black-Ice]

But there are clear illegal Pokémon getting trough.
A Gengar lvl 1. A Infernape caught with a Premier Ball.
Pokemon caught in the wrong route....

So what,

Those are all, "So what issues".
Trivial non-game breaking issues

A Gengar lvl 1.

So what? Why is that scary? Are you gonna get wrecked by a level 1 Gengar?

A Infernape caught with a Premier Ball.

So what?

Pokemon caught in the wrong route.

Do you expect Gamefreak to program the catch locations of every pokemon in every single game since gen 1 into a simple transfer tool?
Also, so what?

 

[gamefan5]

So what,

Those are all, "So what issues".
Trivial non-game breaking issues



So what? Why is that scary? Are you gonna get wrecked by a level 1 Gengar?



So what?



Do you expect Gamefreak to program the catch locations of every pokemon in every single game since gen 1 into a simple transfer tool?
Also, so what?

They actually did in the previous one. They wouldn't work in wi-fi.

 

[VMM]

So what,

Those are all, "So what issues".
Trivial non-game breaking issues



So what? Why is that scary? Are you gonna get wrecked by a level 1 Gengar?



So what?

They may be not clear game breaking issues but they show how there was almost no effort in checking hacked pokémons.
I find it funny how you simply ignored that part of hidden abilities, this is definetly not a "trivial non-breaking issue".
Also these "trivial non-breaking issues" are grotesc, and should be checked to avoid game breaking issues such as perfect shinies with abilities they shouldn't have.

Do you expect Gamefreak to program the catch locations of every pokemon in every single game since gen 1 into a simple transfer tool?
Also, so what?

Since gen 1? Bitch Please, when did you transfer your gen 1 and gen 2 pokemons to gen 3, and I do expect that Nintendo check that, they don't need to check from the app, they could check from their server, which shouldn't be hard, even more considering they have already done that when importing gen 4 pokemons.

 

[Black-Ice]

All i'm seeing right now is a lot of whining excuses from half-baked trainers.
Half-Baked trainers who would rather scream "illegal pokemon" than admit they're not good enough for the metagame.

perfect shinies with abilities they shouldn't have.
.

This proves how ignorant you are
Shiny pokemon are nothing this gen they're easy to get, I have like 5. And they make no difference other than appearance. Also no pokemon with abilities they cant get can go online or through with bank.
Dream world abilities can go through bank coz they're programmed onto the pokemon but if they're not possible to get, that pokemon wont be allowed to battle online, I experienced this in gen 5 with my Sheer Force feraligatr i perfectly genned.

Stop crying, become good at pokemon and you'll realise all these tears are for nothing. Otherwise, stay away from online.
Cant stand the heat? Dont walk in the fire. Simple

 

[Deleted-236924]

Do you expect Gamefreak to program the catch locations of every pokemon in every single game since gen 1 into a simple transfer tool?
Also, so what?

If Pokécheck (third-party) can do it, why not Game Freak (first-party)?

 

[Flame]

i love how when people talk about pokemon competitive battling its all science & mathematical equations.


but when its about religion its.. person A: u dum dum. Person B: dum dum me no u dum dum.





arceus dammit, lets not turn this into a Flame war.

 

[Black-Ice]

If Pokécheck (third-party) can do it, why not Game Freak (first-party)?

Because whats the point.
Pikachu A caught in viridian forest
Pikachu B caught in pallet town.
Both identical stats: Whats the difference?
Only the location

Does it affect anything?
No

 

[Deleted-236924]

Because whats the point.
Pikachu A caught in viridian forest
Pikachu B caught in pallet town.
Both identical stats: Whats the difference?
Only the location

Does it affect anything?
No

It affects the fact that Game Freak said Pokémon Bank would block hacked Pokémon; it is perfectly reasonable for someone to expect them to program a good hack checker when they said they would.
And plenty of people would really hate to receive an illegal Pokémon through a GTS trade/etc., even if it had legal stats/moveset.

It affects the fact that people want to be able to make sure their collection consists of 100% legal Pokémon, without anything illegal in it.

 

[Black-Ice]

It affects the fact that Game Freak said Pokémon Bank would block hacked Pokémon; it is perfectly reasonable for someone to expect them to program a good hack checker when they said they would.

Again: So what?

It stops the things that matter: Illegal stats, Illegal moves, Illegal Abilities

Pikachu being caught at the top of mt coronet doesnt matter as long as its stats, moves and abilities are legal.
Why are you making a fuss over things that don't matter?

 

[Deleted-236924]

If you can't understand the point I am making, then there is no point in me trying to explain it any further.

 

[GameWinner]

i love how when people talk about pokemon competitive battling its all science & mathematical equations.


but when its about religion its.. person A: u dum dum. Person B: dum dum me no u dum dum.





arceus dammit, lets not turn this into a Flame war.

Pokemon is super serious business.

 

[Flame]

Pokemon is super serious business.

you kinda right, but now it can be mega serious business.

 

[Black-Ice]

I clearly understand your point.
However, its trivial.


Its like saying: The forks are meant to be in the fork draw not the knife draw!
And I'm saying, so what its still a fork.

A fork being in the knife draw doesnt make it a super badass game breaking illegal fork that makes you bad at a game. Its no different to the forks in the fork draw

 

[Deleted-236924]

Judging by what you just said, no, you didn't understand my point.

 

[Black-Ice]

Jimmy buys his 3DS from a guy in yard sale.
3DS's are bought in game shops not yards

Jimmy's 3ds is a super illegal 3ds that ruins every other 3ds and should be burned.
Screw Jimmy for being such a noob hacking perfect shiny.

#LogicInThisThread

 

[Chary]

Are you people insane? Iron Fist Chimchars are "illegal", yes. But, it is a legitimate ability that at one point in time or another will BE LEGAL. they programmed that ability in the game. Why not make use of it? Stop getting so hot under the collar.