George Zimmerman found not guilty of Trayvon Martin murder

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Hey guys,
Listen to ggyo
I think he's correct.


Oh and how many of you have notice the Jury was as far away from a representation of Trayvon as possible. All older white (well one was hispanic/white i think?) women.
No blacks, no men and no younger people. That just screams "planted jury". But hey, america would never do something like that now :rolleyes:
 
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Ashtray Martin got precisely what he deserved. He was a racist thug. He racially profiled Zimmerman as a 'creepy ass cracker'. Then, he committed two hate crimes as the result. Assault, and attempted murder. *snip*

That's quite enough of that. Your opinions are yours to express, but don't take it over the top with more hate.
-Twin
 

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Ashtray Martin got precisely what he deserved. He was a racist thug. He racially profiled Zimmerman as a 'creepy ass cracker'. Then, he committed two hate crimes as the result. Assault, and attempted murder. *snip*


It wasn't quite attempted murder Trayvon did IMO upon reading but he did certainly attack Zimmerman. Trayvon was suspicious of Zimmerman, and didn't like the fact that Zim was following Tray. I'm sure Tray didn't expect the gun, but I feel as if Zim had every right to shoot Tray in self defense. Zim felt as if his life was in danger. I agree with Zimmerman's motive for watching the neighborhood - and I think he failed at trying to play the hero by taking the life of Tray. He did the best he could.

I don't think Martin deserved to die - the kid was just a rebellious, robbing punk. It's unfortunate that he did die though - because now he'll never have the opportunity to learn from his mistakes.

It's just a tragedy - and I still hold that Zimmerman shouldn't be held accountable for defending himself whilst his head was being pounded into the pavement.

*snip*
 
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Hey guys,
Listen to ggyo
I think he's correct.


Oh and how many of you have notice the Jury was as far away from a representation of Trayvon as possible. All older white (well one was hispanic/white i think?) women.
No blacks, no men and no younger people. That just screams "planted jury". But hey, america would never do something like that now :rolleyes:

1. There was one "black hispanic" juror on the jury.
2. George Zimmerman is not white, despite what the media says. He is hispanic.

Anyway, I think we really need to just ignore the noise being made by the racist/race-baiting mainstream media, and just look at the facts of this case. The fact is that there is no evidence or proof that Zimmerman did anything illegal in this encounter, and the evidence indicates that Martin was the one who first initiated the violence (which is illegal). Zimmerman's account of the story is consistent with the available evidence. Yes, unfortunately, we don't have Martin's side of the story, but Zimmerman is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and there is no proof to counter his claims.

According to Zimmerman, Martin started the physical confrontation, and the injuries on both individuals are consistent with Zimmerman's account. Zimmerman had injuries to his nose and back of his head, where Martin only had injuries to his knuckles, and obviously, the fatal gunshot wound. Zimmerman had no injuries to his knuckles. Again, the available evidence supports his claims.

As I said earlier in this thread, I think Zimmerman could have handled the situation better, but he still did nothing illegal in the encounter. Also, there is no evidence or proof that Zimmerman was racist toward black people. In fact, the evidence available strongly suggests otherwise.
 
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1. There was one "black hispanic" juror on the jury.
2. George Zimmerman is not white, despite what the media says. He is hispanic.

I dont care what if he's mexican, russian or chinese
My point is that Trayvon had no jury representation. And my point is valid.
 

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I dont care what if he's mexican, russian or chinese
My point is that Trayvon had no jury representation. And my point is valid.


The thing is, juries don't select for race. They're prohibited from selecting against race (or gender, or so on), of course, but that's it. Ensuring that the members of the jury are as unbiased as possible is far more pressing.

Besides, juries aren't selected to "represent" the subjects of a case, so the point is moot anyway.
 
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The thing is, juries don't select for race. They're prohibited from selecting against race (or gender, or so on), of course, but that's it. Ensuring that the members of the jury are as unbiased as possible is far more pressing.

Besides, juries aren't selected to "represent" the subjects of a case, so the point is moot anyway.

I know, I studied law. its just that... meh. It seemed so conspiracy like. I know its far fetched to say it was planted, and it probably wasnt,
But that has to be the worst luck of the draw i've seen.

Said nobody in the history of ever. :rolleyes:

#ShitGBATempSays

LOOOL, I actually agreed with him. Real talk
 

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I know, I studied law. its just that... meh. It seemed so conspiracy like. I know its far fetched to say it was planted, and it probably wasnt,
But that has to be the worst luck of the draw i've seen.
The problem with this case is the way in which media spun it in the beginning. The victim was white-washed wheras his past was shady and he was agressive towards Zimmerman while Zimmerman was painted as the white racist when he's neither. Your "feels" are less important than facts and one of the characteristic features of a fact is that you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 

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The problem with this case is the way in which media spun it in the beginning. The victim was white-washed wheras his past was shady and he was agressive towards Zimmerman while Zimmerman was painted as the white racist when he's neither. Your "feels" are less important than facts and one of the characteristic features of a fact is that you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

True.
But there isnt much that can be proved without a shadow of a doubt with this case imo
 

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Hey guys,
Listen to ggyo
I think he's correct.


Oh and how many of you have notice the Jury was as far away from a representation of Trayvon as possible. All older white (well one was hispanic/white i think?) women.
No blacks, no men and no younger people. That just screams "planted jury". But hey, america would never do something like that now :rolleyes:

So what you are saying is an all white female jury in America will be biased and automatically side against a black male victim in a murder trial and exonerate a Hispanic defendant because they are white?

Guess what?

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Really that is no different from me saying Martin was out to burgle houses because he is black, young and was wearing a hoody.

I put it to you that you are the one who is a disgusting racist black-ice. Shame on you.
 
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Or to completely acquit from murder either. But thats how I see it.
...are you going to keep him in limbo then? The persecution had time to prepare a case and their case failed to convince the jury and that's that - you can't drag him from one courtroom to another "until the persecution wins", that's not how justice works.
 

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So what you are saying is an all white female jury in America will be biased and automatically side against a black male victim in a murder trial and exonerate a Hispanic defendant because they are white?

Guess what?

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Really that is no different from me saying Martin was out to burgle houses because he is black, young and was wearing a hoody.

I put it to you that you are the one who is a disgusting racist black-ice. Shame on you.

What I said was that it was the worst draw of jury that could have been drawn for Trayvon.
Also, loool sorry if my "racism" causes a sandstorm in your vagina p1ng.
I got opinions bro. If they make me a disgusting racist, sure whatever.
 

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What I said was that it was the worst draw of jury that could have been drawn for Trayvon.
Also, loool sorry if my "racism" causes a sandstorm in your vagina p1ng.
I got opinions bro. If they make me a disgusting racist, sure whatever.

p1ngpong has a point - if you assume that a white jury will be bias against a black defendant then you're being a racist Blice. Racism works both ways.
 

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p1ngpong has a point - if you assume that a white jury will be bias against a black defendant then you're being a racist Blice. Racism works both ways.

Well.
I'm a racist.

Thanks for helping me discover more about myself gbatemp.
I'll take what you said to heart and treasure it forever.

Lol 90% of everyone who talks about this case is a racist in that light
 
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If you want to stop being a racist, stop playing the race card. A difference of race between the victim and the defendant does not a hate crime make.

I'm not playing cards, i'm stating what I think.
And i've already accepted this new revelation you've pointed out to me. I've embraced it and its part of me now.

Race plays a part in everything. Ignoring it is ignorant.
 
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What I said was that it was the worst draw of jury that could have been drawn for Trayvon.
I got opinions bro. If they make me a disgusting racist, sure whatever.

You are saying that a white jury is incapable of being neutral and fair in a trial, that if the jury was predominantly black it would be somehow better for Martin.

My above post was not all that serious but I was just pointing out the hypocrisy and casual racism displayed by a lot of people due to this trial that they are getting away with freely.

If the shoe was on the other foot and I was saying things like "well I am white and Trayvon was black so he was probably a criminal and deserved to die" there would be a shitstorm here. And basically what you are saying is that that was essentially the attitude of the jury.

So stick your opinions up your arse racist.
 

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