[Theory/Rumor] Nintendo DS production set to stop

[Deleted_171835]

You're going to dismiss true hardware backward compatibility because it doesn't scale exactly precisely as the original? Really?

Granted, I never owned an original DS model. But having compared some of my games with how they play on the DSes that come into my shop (out of curiosity), the difference seems almost infinitesimal in most cases. Seriously, if the difference is so small that you have to strain to see it in a side-by-side comparison (or else be attuned to it for a long time), then I don't see what the big deal is.

The difference is really noticeable if you've played on a regular DS. It ruins sprite-art in most DS games and makes everything MUCH more blurry.

 

[Gahars]

3DS>>>NDS. It even have surpassed it in sales.

I'm thinking... no.

 

[Rydian]

DSTwo with GBA Emulation, My cellphone, my PC can do that. And soon the 3DS itself by VC.
Why you care so much about GBA?

That's not the 3DS doing it, that's the DSTwo (literally the DSTwo has it's own CPU inside the DSTwo itself and emulates the GBA/SNES ON that chip, not on the 3DS).

Just pointing out that the 3DS does not have GBA backwards-compatibility.

Why is this news labeled rumour?

Read the source, there's no actual mention of it stopping.

Not in the XL. It matter becauses it does have BC. 3DS>>>NDS. It has even surpassed it in sales.

The XL has the same resolution, and thus does the same technical scaling, as the basic 3DS.

Also no, the 3DS has not surpassed the DS in sales.

 

[The Milkman]

Oh god, can this please not turn into one of those threads where everyone starts saying the 3DS isn't worth it and it breaks into a stupid argument?

EDIT: Too late.

 

[TripleSMoon]

The difference is really noticeable if you've played on a regular DS. It ruins sprite-art in most DS games and makes everything MUCH more blurry.

Ah. Well the only games I've done a side by side comparison with are games with 3D polygons, like Zelda: Phantom Hourglass and Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals. So I wouldn't have that experience.

That said, I play quite a few sprite games on my 3DS XL (Kirby Super Star Ultra, Kirby Mass Attack, Mega Man Zero Collection, and Mega Man ZX, to name a few), and they honestly don't look bad at all to me.

 

[Foxi4]

Not in the XL. It matter cuz it does have BC. 3DS>>>NDS. It even have surpassed it in sales.

Right, let's get two things straight. No it didn't, the DS line of handhelds is second only to the PlayStation 2 sales-wise. Backwards Compatibility on the 3DS is "meh" for many players because playing the games stretched with applied filters is hit and miss and playing them 1:1 makes the screen incredibly tiny. If you're cool with that, great, but don't expect everyone to share your opinion.

 

[ElYubiYubi]

3DS still outpacing predecessor in comparative sales, says Nintendo
Nintendo 3DS surpasses DS first year sales

It does play NDS Games no matter the resolution. It does play NDS Games. Same as GBA(Which I think none care about that anymore) like in the DSi by the DSTwo.

And anyway the 3DS is better to play 3DS Games which it have a big library now and the upcoming games are looking so awesome.

You guys need to upgrade. The next Pokemon is coming to the 3DS. There no more NDS coming hence why (RUMOR) Nintendo is killing it. Is time to upgrade.

 

[heartgold]

Right, let's get two things straight. No it didn't, the DS line of handhelds is second only to the PlayStation 2 sales-wise. Backwards Compatibility on the 3DS is "meh" for many players because playing the games stretched with applied filters is hit and miss and playing them 1:1 makes the screen incredibly tiny. If you're cool with that, great, but don't expect everyone to share your opinion.

3DS XL...scales the game bigger than a lite screen in 1.1 mode.

 

[Foxi4]

3DS XL...scales the game bigger than a lite screen in 1.1 mode.

The DS Lite doesn't scale the game at all, the 3DS XL on the other hand stretches the screen and applies filters OR plays it in 1:1 mode depending on what you pick. I'm not entirely sure about the physical dimensions of the displayed image when in 1:1 mode but if you happen to have info about that, feel free to post it.

3DS owners are still losing some benefits of having a DS console, for example GBA-to-DS connectivity, native GBA support and a complete lack of worries about any updates. (Yes, I treat the DSi line as a separate line of hardware due to its exclusive software)

 

[Rydian]

Same as GBA(Which I think none care about that anymore)

Because you asked... what, two of your friends with the same taste or something?

Broaden your mind, dude. There are other people on the planet who like stuff you don't like, and that's okay. We're not 12, it's entirely possible for other people to like things you don't like, and you don't need to think worse of them for it.

http://gbatemp.net/threads/tempgba-ndsgba-revival.343210/
Check out all the interest that got, and then tell me "noone" likes GBA games.

 

[chartube12]

And soon the 3DS itself by VC.

Wrong. The announcement from the latest direct says the Wii-U is getting GBA by VC along with Nintendo 64. As much as I want the 3DS to get GBA games, it isn't currently planned to. Yeah it doesn't make since to me either. Proof Nintendo has lost touch with gamers.

 

[TripleSMoon]

The DS Lite doesn't scale the game at all, the 3DS XL on the other hand stretches the screen and applies filters OR plays it in 1:1 mode depending on what you pick. I'm not entirely sure about the physical dimensions of the displayed image when in 1:1 mode but if you happen to have info about that, feel free to post it.

3DS owners are still losing some benefits of having a DS console, for example GBA-to-DS connectivity, native GBA support and a complete lack of worries about any updates. (Yes, I treat the DSi line as a separate line of hardware due to its exclusive software)

Why would I keep a DS in addition to my 3DS for the sake of GBA compatibility, when I can get that, PLUS GB/GBC compatibility and multiplayer options with an actual GBA?

Just saying.

 

[heartgold]

The DS Lite doesn't scale the game at all, the 3DS XL on the other hand stretches the screen and applies filters OR plays it in 1:1 mode depending on what you pick. I'm not entirely sure about the physical dimensions of the displayed image when in 1:1 mode but if you happen to have info about that, feel free to post it.

3DS owners are still losing some benefits of having a DS console, for example GBA-to-DS connectivity, native GBA support and a complete lack of worries about any updates. (Yes, I treat the DSi line as a separate line of hardware due to its exclusive software)

3DS XL is a true 1.1 mode as playing on a normal DS. Due to physical bigger pixels on the 3DS XL the screen size is larger than a DS lite, so you basically have a screen bigger than DS lite, no stretched image and the same picture quality. On non 1.1 mode images would be stretched to fit the screen. 3DS XL is superior to 3DS for DS BC for quality purpose.

 

[Foxi4]

Why would I keep a DS in addition to my 3DS for the sake of GBA compatibility, when I can get that, PLUS GB/GBC compatibility and multiplayer options with an actual GBA?

Just saying.

Because you may not want to carry ten zillion portables on you at a given time.

Just answering.

 

[Jamstruth]

The DS Lite doesn't scale the game at all, the 3DS XL on the other hand stretches the screen and applies filters OR plays it in 1:1 mode depending on what you pick. I'm not entirely sure about the physical dimensions of the displayed image when in 1:1 mode but if you happen to have info about that, feel free to post it.

3DS owners are still losing some benefits of having a DS console, for example GBA-to-DS connectivity, native GBA support and a complete lack of worries about any updates. (Yes, I treat the DSi line as a separate line of hardware due to its exclusive software)

I just bought a 3DS XL. The 1:1 mode screens look about the size of a DSi.

DS stopping production? Hardly epic news in my opinion. I actually still have my launch DS. It's had its case replaced twice now and survived both surgeries. Its only claims to failure other than plastic cracking are a single dead pixel on the top screen and a very lightly scratched touch screen (I gave up on screen protectors long ago). I'm still going to use it to get my Pokemon off my GBA games (whenever the hell I can get that going... I've still not gotten to the Pal Park in SoulSilver and I can't get them onto Black/White unfortunately) and my flashcart is DS only so I'm stuck with that for pirating.

 

[TripleSMoon]

Because you may not want to carry ten zillion portables on you at a given time.

Just answering.

That's not ten zillion, that's two. GBA and 3DS. With your suggestion, someone who wanted all Nintendo handheld generations would need three: One for 3DS, one for "perfect" DS display and maybe GBA, and a GB/GBA for all Game Boy generation games.

 

[Foxi4]

That's not ten zillion, that's two. GBA and 3DS. With your suggestion, someone who wanted all Nintendo handheld generations would need three: One for 3DS, one for "perfect" DS display and maybe GBA, and a GB/GBA for all Game Boy generation games.

I don't see why lameboy isn't an option for you, but alright.

 

[TripleSMoon]

I don't see why lameboy isn't an option for you, but alright.

Fair enough. But not all of us emulate (speaking as a former hardcore classic game emulator myself). I mean, after all, aren't we discussing playing DS games on their "true" hardware with the DS? What's to say someone might feel the same about the Game Boy?

 

[jonthedit]

Well, I'd say its official. Look at Nintendo.com and they've removed the DS from the sales area and the comparison charts.
"Buy" DS on nintendo used to show DS Phats and Lites of all colors... Now there's two options for a normal sized DSi
http://www.nintendo.com/ds/buynow/


Here's the comparison chart.
http://www.nintendo.com/ds/what-is/#/compare
I find it funny that they have the "Plays GBA" on the chart with no console having the ability.

 

[FAST6191]

To be a bastard on the GBC on GBA thing there was a problem with some GBA stuff http://nocash.emubase.de/gbatek.htm#lcdcolorpalettes

I suppose also though is that the DS does not have a link port and while GBA-DS linkup was a nice toy for cheats/truly minor bonus content in most cases the link port on the GBA did do a lot.