Hacking Why add anti-piracy measures to Devolution ?

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Maybe we should have a poll about it? How many people think that developers should not be questioned because they think that criticism might lead the developer to stop working on a program that they personally want to use? I'll bet that the results might be surprising, that is if people were honest in answering the poll. People act in self-interested ways all of the time, probably much more so than for altruistic reasons. But that is not the sole reason. Some people like to be bullies, perhaps because they think that it is fun to beat up on other people, figuratively or literally. Perhaps it gives them a sense of power or superiority, some sort of increase in social capital. Others seem to like to join in on the "fun". Personally, I don't see the enjoyment in it. I find it perverse and childish.

When people say things like "Devolution won't let me play my games", what they actually mean is something more along the lines of "Of course I can still play my games from disc, but Devolution won't let me play the games I want to play because I don't have the retail discs for those games". I seriously doubt that anyone here has actually meant that the program somehow stopped their Wii from reading/loading/playing games from disc. That fact ought to be assumed by the reader (at least any reader who cares to understand what was actually meant by the speaker). The problem occurs when others selectively read such posts with the intent of dismissing them rather than actually reading between the lines and making the necessary inferences (like that people are not saying that their Wii cannot play games on disc because of Devolution). Then again, the norm around here seems to be to strategically mock, belittle, and marginalize rather than to make a genuine attempt at understanding.
 
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I agree with your first part... that one time I called out YWG for refusing to give Wood's source (even though he claimed it was GPL), I got lots of people attacking me for fear that YWG would stop developing Wood. What's funny is, when a rumor spread that NDSGBA was GPL, some of those exact same users started crying "source!" :\

I believe that wording is pretty damn important. I, as well as others in this thread, are well aware of what people mean. However that's not what they're saying, and what outsiders who look in this thread will see is what's been posted. You've been on this forum for a while, you've seen people freaking out over baseless accusations and rumors all the time.

"I heard the 3DS bricks flash carts" - No, the 3DS update stops the flash cart from working, the thread you saw just had an angry user freaking out and using the wrong terms.
"My DSi blocked my Ak2i, but I updated the AKAIO firmware!" - AKAIO is not firmware, people were using the terms wrong.
etc.
 
But if there was a way to prevent it from being used to smash people's skulls in with, while still allowing it to be used for hammering nails etc., I'd be fairly confident such a thing would be done. And that is what is happening with Devolution.
Speaking of flawed arguments, smashing people's skulls with a hammer is equivalent to playing pirated games, right?
 
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Wow. I can't believe people are still on about this. Talk about beating a dead horse-- even i'll admit this has gotten out of hand.

It seems like this topic only serves as an outlet for rage at tueidj, and his project, JUST for the pure hatred towards his decision of adding AP to his free software. I don't agree with his decision either, but at least I'm not blatently ignoring him, and still, I don't even LIKE tueidj, just as a person in general.

Damn. People are stubborn.
 
As has been posted many times before...

If the app doesn't fit your needs, don't use it. People bitch as if the pressure will suddenly convince tueidj to remove the AP. It won't. Time to move on with your lives.
 
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^ Nice try, but NO one will listen to your useless advice. That would defeat the purpose of this thread.

What exactly is the purpose of this thread again? The OP was coherent and inquisitive. Most posts since have either chastized the dev or have been variations of stfu and gtfo.

...though it was a bit funny to look back at page 1 and see who the first person to be a dick was. ;)
 
please use Devolution if u use your GC disc LIKE shuriken!
Sometimes i use my gc disc for Hit my sister.. her want play with my wii!!!!

And wow i can play again PSOII the great best RPG GAMES!!!!! wow!!!
 
Me don't like people complaining about other people's work. If you don't like my tea, make your own!

I know this is ancient and it will take me a while to get through this thread but....

ALL hacks are basically complaints about other people's work if you think about it.

Nintendo's devs didn't make their wiis to our liking so here is a whole forum dedicated to complaints and solutions.
 
And this is my solution to the problem of always having to change discs/memory cards and being unable to use certain features of games because they require legacy hardware that isn't wii compatible. It is not a solution to enable people to play games that they couldn't already play.
 
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Exactly, if tueidj decides to remove the AP, alright. If he won't, alright. His application, his choice. Giving reasons to remove it is okay, but actually making attempts at cracking it is just rude.

I agree with 75% of this statement, authors can do as they please even if makes no logical sense, however... If cracking it is rude then I should point out the purpose of this whole site seems to be cracking and hacking things which makes all of us very very rude.
 
Exactly, if tueidj decides to remove the AP, alright. If he won't, alright. His application, his choice. Giving reasons to remove it is okay, but actually making attempts at cracking it is just rude.

I agree with 75% of this statement, authors can do as they please even if makes no logical sense, however... If cracking it is rude then I should point out the purpose of this whole site seems to be cracking and hacking things which makes all of us very very rude.
Not to mention that Devolution itself is a crack of sorts, so getting butthurt about people cracking it is hypocritical.
 
Pretty sure tueidj has said before he is fine with people trying to crack it. (By which I think he means it's unlikely to happen, he presumably reckons he's done a pretty good job protecting it and that anyone with the skill to crack it wouldn't release the cracked version).
 
Pretty sure tueidj has said before he is fine with people trying to crack it. (By which I think he means it's unlikely to happen, he presumably reckons he's done a pretty good job protecting it and that anyone with the skill to crack it wouldn't release the cracked version).
Even if he has said that, it's an asshole thing to do.
 
Pretty sure tueidj has said before he is fine with people trying to crack it. (By which I think he means it's unlikely to happen, he presumably reckons he's done a pretty good job protecting it and that anyone with the skill to crack it wouldn't release the cracked version).
Even if he has said that, it's an asshole thing to do.
So making exploit for any console is also asshole thing to do?
 
Pretty sure tueidj has said before he is fine with people trying to crack it. (By which I think he means it's unlikely to happen, he presumably reckons he's done a pretty good job protecting it and that anyone with the skill to crack it wouldn't release the cracked version).
Even if he has said that, it's an asshole thing to do.
No more so than any other piracy tool e.g. every USB loader every made. I agree that it's a wrong thing to do, just like any piracy loader is.
 
Pretty sure tueidj has said before he is fine with people trying to crack it. (By which I think he means it's unlikely to happen, he presumably reckons he's done a pretty good job protecting it and that anyone with the skill to crack it wouldn't release the cracked version).
Even if he has said that, it's an asshole thing to do.
So making exploit for any console is also asshole thing to do?
The difference is tueidj could stop distributing this any time he wants to, as he has no reason to share it. Unlike Nintendo, he isn't selling the software. Devolution isn't a warez loader, and it's understandable why he doesn't want it to be one. If someone cracks it and distributes it, that might be enough to make him stop updating it, which would be a hit to everyone.

Another thing is exploits aren't (normally) designed for piracy, which is all you care about. I get so tired of people like you who constantly complain that they have to PAY for games if they want to play them.
 

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