Zombie thread, RAAAGH

[Deleted-188346]

Gateway holding out due to future US users potentially bricking their consoles on an update intended for EU/JPN/TWN/CHN regions is a pretty dumb suggestion. Almost as dumb as those hypothetical US users bricking their hypothetical N3DS units.

If Gateway wanted to, they could place an unskippable splash screen when running the exploit warning against use with future US hardware.

try to place yourself in GWs position and think about what you would do in this position and how it would affect your sales and your rep.

I would absolutely release a stable EU/JPN/TWN/CHN N3DS update if it was ready. I would also place warnings on the website, in the instructions, and within the exploit process itself to try and mitigate brickings. This would result in good sales.

Even if there were brickings, it wouldn't result in any PR damage as the community would scoff at the idiots who actually tried running an incompatible exploit on their US consoles despite relentless warnings against doing so.

 

[SonyUSA]

Why so? Maybe it's in their best interest to release the package as a whole rather than them receiving hundreds of emails on a daily basis that someone had bricked their US console because they tried to run the exploit even though it's not supported. It would be way worse than it is now IMO.

I doubt it would brick the system, but how many posts have we seen along the lines of "I know it says it's not supported, but I tried it on my N3DS anyway and it just crashes" ? Tons. People are dumb and just "try" things to see if they work, even though they are clearly told they don't and are also told to not try it.

 

[SonyUSA]

I should also point out, when an idiot bricks his console, he doesn't say "well, it's my fault, I didn't follow the instructions" he goes to every forum and chat and tells everyone he knows IRL how "Gateway fucked up his DS and cost him money and he did everything right and blablabla" resulting in bad press. The bad press hurts sales. Enough idiots will cause a huge decline in sales.

 

[guitarheroknight]

I doubt it would brick the system, but how many posts have we seen along the lines of "I know it says it's not supported, but I tried it on my N3DS anyway and it just crashes" ? Tons. People are dumb and just "try" things to see if they work, even though they are clearly told they don't and are also told to not try it.

Yeah, I know I was just saying "what if". But as it seems the update isnt ready, maybe as you said theyre waiting for the US release, maybe not. You never know, it might hit us straight out of the blue. The only thing left is to wait, nothing more.

Gateway holding out due to future US users potentially bricking their consoles on an update intended for EU/JPN/TWN/CHN regions is a pretty dumb suggestion. Almost as dumb as those hypothetical US users bricking their hypothetical N3DS units.

If Gateway wanted to, they could place an unskippable splash screen when running the exploit warning against use with future US hardware.


I would absolutely release a stable EU/JPN/TWN/CHN N3DS update if it was ready. I would also place warnings on the website, in the instructions, and within the exploit process itself to try and mitigate brickings. This would result in good sales.

Even if there were brickings, it wouldn't result in any PR damage as the community would scoff at the idiots who actually tried running an incompatible exploit on their US consoles despite relentless warnings against doing so.

But I guess its not now is it?

It's not about thinking outside of the box it's about what is logical here . As I said it wouldn't do more harm than this thread to their rep as long as they warn people. Are you a girl? You try empathize with them a lot, I'm just curious. Also, Sonyusa herself said that it was her assumption. she didn't hear it from the team. They do indeed offer better features that's why I'm still waiting for them but the average user wouldn't care about those features as long as it plays roms.

This is only at your end, as the user you have every right to think this way but youre not a million dollar company are you? Im sure everything is happening for a reason and when the time comes everything will be revealed. People who cant wait waste their money on a Sky3DS while GW is working on their update, and Im not saying theyre waisting their money in a negative way but rather in a outside the box way because Sky3DS will get blocked and when it does people are gonna buy GW or the next best/worst thing and that for me is just silly since the money could have been spent in a better place. But enough bickering for now, you have every right to demand the update now but no one knows if its even finished yet so theres that. But all in all I have a feeling the update wont be far from the global rlease.

I should also point out, when an idiot bricks his console, he doesn't say "well, it's my fault, I didn't follow the instructions" he goes to every forum and chat and tells everyone he knows IRL how "Gateway fucked up his DS and cost him money and he did everything right and blablabla" resulting in bad press. The bad press hurts sales. Enough idiots will cause a huge decline in sales.

Exactly this!

 

[satel]

I should also point out, when an idiot bricks his console, he doesn't say "well, it's my fault, I didn't follow the instructions" he goes to every forum and chat and tells everyone he knows IRL how "Gateway fucked up his DS and cost him money and he did everything right and blablabla" resulting in bad press. The bad press hurts sales. Enough idiots will cause a huge decline in sales.

i did not see all this (links below) hurting sales,GW is still the best selling flash card on the market by far but not much we can do apart from hoping the reason you've giving us is the real reason for the delay,only 13 days to go & we shall find out.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...Tool-Whose-Anti-Piracy-Tactic-Bricks-Your-3DS
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...udes-secret-kill-switch-that-bricks-handhelds
https://ngb.to/threads/161-Gateway-...ende-3DS-Flashcart/page14?p=187387#post187387
http://nintendoeverything.com/gatew...g-3ds-systems-when-users-modify-devices-file/

 

[Deleted-188346]

But I guess its not [ready] now is it?

You don't know, and I don't know, because Gateway have the communication abilities of a bowl of expired porridge. But people are still trying to justify why Gateway should hold it back for the US launch.
My post was a counter-argument to that.

 

[Thirty3Three]

You don't know, and I don't know, because Gateway have the communication abilities of a bowl of expired porridge. But people are still trying to justify why Gateway should hold it back for the US launch.
My post was a counter-argument to that.

I dunno, mang. My bowl of porridge was pretty well-spoken this morning...

 

[Ralph1611]

Again there is no freaking point waiting for other regions.

Imagine the worst case scenario: GW enables emunand on N3DS and Nintendo comes up with a 9.5 soon or simultaneously with the USA launch. (it's more likely than you might think..)

All the peeps who have patiently waited [FOR FUCKING MONTHS] would have to wait _again_ for 9.5 emunand support, if it's doable at all.

Why should the whole damn world be penalized for USA being late...

If GW released a beta now for JPN/AUS/EUR (those who got ambassador anyway); it would allow beta testing for the upcoming USA launch AND would allow peeps to quickly grab 9.4 for emunand while it's still available.

I guess there's another reason for GW to hold out on N3DS support, maybe it cannot be secured enough and clones would use their work, or something.
But IF GW is really waiting for USA launch just to save them the trouble of releasing multiple packages, it's really really too dumb of a choice.

THIS THIS THIS

We dont know when 9.4s successor will come from the big N. Allow us to get emunand on our n3ds ASAP

 

[guitarheroknight]

You don't know, and I don't know, because Gateway have the communication abilities of a bowl of expired porridge. But people are still trying to justify why Gateway should hold it back for the US launch.
My post was a counter-argument to that.

Assuming the update is ready that is.

 

[Miles54321]

I should also point out, when an idiot bricks his console, he doesn't say "well, it's my fault, I didn't follow the instructions" he goes to every forum and chat and tells everyone he knows IRL how "Gateway fucked up his DS and cost him money and he did everything right and blablabla" resulting in bad press. The bad press hurts sales. Enough idiots will cause a huge decline in sales.

Yup, I've heard enough of that also

THIS THIS THIS

We dont know when 9.4s successor will come from the big N. Allow us to get emunand on our n3ds ASAP

Hmm, Emunand lets you emulate latest system firmware right? Even if 9.5 comes out won't it be safe to update emunand to that or no?

 

[TheShadowRunner]

Hmm, Emunand lets you emulate latest system firmware right? Even if 9.5 comes out won't it be safe to update emunand to that or no?

Not without waiting some more for GW to work their magic and make emunand compatible with it.

Besides, if the big N finds a way to block emunand with 9.5, we're ALL fucked for good.
So far so good, but who knows what might happen.
Since the currently online 9.4 is known to work [for emunand], GW should release their N3DS solution now or ASAP.

Again, the thing about waiting for USA to launch because USA owners are too retarded to read instructions is ludicrous and in the current scenario, dangerous for everybody else.

 

[Miles54321]

Not without waiting some more for GW to work their magic and make emunand compatible with it.

Besides, if the big N finds a way to block emunand with 9.5, we're ALL fucked for good.
So far so good, but who knows what might happen.
Since the currently online 9.4 is known to work [for emunand], GW should release their N3DS now or ASAP.

Again, the thing about waiting for USA to launch because USA owners are too retarded to read instructions is ludicrous.

I just wish we had something for the time being, no news at the moment is not good, Nintendo shouldn't block out emunand, so far anything Gateway related hasn't been blocked out
+ As far as I Know, everyone nintendo console so far has been able to get round nintendo patch attempts etc.

 

[Ralph1611]

Basically what Shadowrunner said. Emunand isnt automatically available for download. I believe if you updated it without Emunand support it would update the sysNAND. Game over either way. They need to roll this update out now.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Not without waiting some more for GW to work their magic and make emunand compatible with it.

Besides, if the big N finds a way to block emunand with 9.5, we're ALL fucked for good.
So far so good, but who knows what might happen.
Since the currently online 9.4 is known to work [for emunand], GW should release their N3DS solution now or ASAP.

Again, the thing about waiting for USA to launch because USA owners are too retarded to read instructions is ludicrous and in the current scenario, dangerous for everybody else.

I believe they've already tried blocking emuNAND on multiple occasions, Gateway just keeps getting around their blocks. I believe that's one of the main reasons why emuNAND's Classic Mode "without extra features" is broken past 7.0. Even if they make a substantial block, we can still use our ticket.dbs to get update .cia's on older consoles with 4.5, and those .cias will be able to be used on other devices because they removed signature checks and stuff.

 

[Xzi]

I think it's pretty foolish to believe that Gateway would be holding up the N3DS release for the US. We know for a fact that they have hundreds of 3DS consoles, and at least half of those have to be N3DS consoles at this point. Don't you think they would have already gotten their hands on a review model of the US N3DS?

 

[Miles54321]

I think it's pretty foolish to believe that Gateway would be holding up the N3DS release for the US. We know for a fact that they have hundreds of 3DS consoles, and at least half of those have to be N3DS consoles at this point. Don't you think they would have already gotten their hands on a review model of the US N3DS?

I think it's likely, Gateway just biding their time then wham, before Nintendo know it all they're consoles are hacked

I believe they've already tried blocking emuNAND on multiple occasions, Gateway just keeps getting around their blocks. I believe that's one of the main reasons why emuNAND's Classic Mode "without extra features" is broken past 7.0. Even if they make a substantial block, we can still use our ticket.dbs to get update .cia's on older consoles with 4.5, and those .cias will be able to be used on other devices because they removed signature checks and stuff.

No matter what they do they can't stop the Gateway, thank god this isn't Microsoft or something, they woulda blocked this out by now

 

[cephalopoid]

Oh good, is this the big pre-release Gateway Freak Out?

Is this where we all speculate, make big claims, big assumptions, and be assholes to everyone?

I didn't miss it?

Oh good.

 

[tony_2018]

I dunno, mang. My bowl of porridge was pretty well-spoken this morning...

Spoken like a true itsy bitsy spider.

 

[imlgl]

Yo peeps, someone on my twitter got hold of the UK version of the new 3DSXL this is their firmware version: 9.4.0-21E

 

[guitarheroknight]

Yo peeps, someone on my twitter got hold of the UK version of the new 3DSXL this is their firmware version: 9.4.0-21E

Pics or it didn't happen