Would you rather live in a Democracy where you're lied in all the time, or a Dictatorship where you're told the truth about things that affect you.

[Viri]

You'll either get extremely lucky, and get "Five Good Emperors" like the Roman Empire. But in reality, most of the time, you'll get unlucky, and get a shitty tyrant Emperor, who wastes money on him self. Then he gets assassinated, civil war, and then Dictatorship. Military Dictatorships tend to suck at ruling a country, then they fracture, in fighting, and civil war.


A transparent Dictator would be cool though.

 

[chrisrlink]

Aren't we already living in the first one, more or less?

no but we might be in 2024

 

[Vetusomaru]

"Democracy", dictatorship...what's the difference? Even at ancient Greece, the country who gave birth to democracy, you had less rights if you were a woman or a homosexual man and slavery was a thing.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

Impossible choice, dictators never tell the truth. Look at Putin, Orban, or any nutjob from Africa.

 

[Vetusomaru]

Impossible choice, dictators never tell the truth. Look at Putin, Orban, or any nutjob from Africa.

ALL POLITICIANS never tell the truth. It's their job to lie to you so you will vote them and support their fascist laws in the name of "democracy".

 

[smf]

A "democracy" where you are lied to all the time is not a democracy.

 

[Ryab]

A "democracy" where you are lied to all the time is not a democracy.

Isnt that basically every democracy though? There are no politicians who don't lie.

 

[WalterSlovotsky]

I have never NOT lived in a Democracy where I am lied to all the time, so bring on the dictator!

 

[Xzi]

ALL POLITICIANS never tell the truth. It's their job to lie to you so you will vote them and support their fascist laws in the name of "democracy".

That's ridiculous, even Trump has accidentally let the truth slip out a few times. Let's not pretend all lies are created equal, either. There's downplaying the inflation rate, and then there's secretly running concentration camps. Not all lies are law-breaking, and not all lies are detrimental to the nation, but when they are the guilty party must be prosecuted.

 

[mrdude]

I have never NOT lived in a Democracy where I am lied to all the time, so bring on the dictator!

Move to Canada, that commie running the country is a dictator and gave a standing ovation to a NAZI SS member that had been invited to their parliament yesterday:



You'd fit right in there.

 

[pustal]

The democracy is run by politicians that have over generations honed the art of elections to the point that it's just a popularity contest, with the actual issues themselves being little more then flavortext on playing cards in a game. They will tell you exactly what you need to hear to keep voting them in, and any mistake or inconvenient detail will be hidden and excused and lied about. The citizens mean nothing to them so the politicians fuel their lives of excess and debauchery knowing the citizens aren't aware that the politicians are responsible for the countries problems.

The dictatorship is run by a single individual and his advisers, who have spent their entire lifetime learning macroeconomics and generally anything that's needed to run a country. Because if his (or her) permanent position he can make strategies that take in account their effects to the future of the country, and has prepared a few successor candidates to take his place when he passes. He can afford to be frank with the citizens about what is happening in the country that is affecting them, as they aren't in a position to fight him - unless almost the entire country unites to throw him out.

I think the concept of a "benevolent dictator" can really only exist in hypothetical scenarios. Once you've reached that level of power, there's nobody to hold you accountable, so even if you start out making good decisions, sycophants will keep you insulated from the fallout of the bad decisions; you'll never truly know when you've begun to slip up. Moreover, the type of person who wants to become a dictator is never the type of person you'd want in charge to begin with.

Democracy works, but only with more than two parties, and only with an educated populace willing to hold their representatives accountable.

Not to mention no dictator ever held power without lying and re-writting reality to the masses.

Move to Canada, that commie running the country is a dictator and gave a standing ovation to a NAZI SS member that had been invited to their parliament yesterday:



You'd fit right in there.

You do realise he was outed as a nazi after the fact, right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

But then again, ironically for this thread, it is not the truth you are interested in, as always.

 

[mrdude]

Not to mention no dictator ever held power without lying and re-writting reality to the masses.



You do realise he was outed as a nazi after the fact, right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

But then again, ironically for this thread, it is not the truth you are interested in, as always.

Yes I am very aware that he was outed as a NAZI, it still happened though and they basically read his CV out and said that he was a german fighting against the Russians (The germans were the enemy of the allies in case you didn't know, and had invaded Russia) - the security is that lax in Canada that even a WW2 SS NAZI gets invited to the Canadian parliament and gets a standing ovation even though they knew he was a German fighting against the allies, it's a fucking disgrace and disgusting TBH.

Ukraine is full of NAZI's though and many in the Azov battalion wear NAZI emblems on their uniforms, so it's unsurprising when Zelenski (the cross dressing comedian) gets and invite to Canada he brings a NAZI with him

Also PM Justin Trudeau is a fan of the way commie China dictatorship works:


Like I say, those that want to live in a commie regime - move to Canada, you'll be right at home.

 

[Futurdreamz]

That's ridiculous, even Trump has accidentally let the truth slip out a few times. Let's not pretend all lies are created equal, either. There's downplaying the inflation rate, and then there's secretly running concentration camps. Not all lies are law-breaking, and not all lies are detrimental to the nation, but when they are the guilty party must be prosecuted.

Trump was never allowed to lie because every news corportation, journalist, reporter, comedian, and podcaster did everything they could to rip him apart and expose him. Conversely, they did everything they could to protect Biden, even on things they were later forced to admit is true.

Lying politicians are powerless if journalists do their damn job and point out the lies and contradictions.

If the news that everyone watches does everything it can to smear and air one President's dirty laundry any moment it can while desperately burying the other president's skeletons six feet under at the dead of night, how are the citizens expected to be able to make an informed vote? Who is making the decisions for the country in those situations?

 

[Xzi]

Trump was never allowed to lie because every news corportation, journalist, reporter, comedian, and podcaster did everything they could to rip him apart and expose him.

Trump would implode if he was never allowed to lie. He lied his ass off to the extent that he's now being prosecuted for some of his most damaging ones. The media has done a poor job of covering him this entire time, and amplified the volume of disinformation as a result.

 

[Reploid]

>Dictarship
>Truth
Huh?

Or rather
>Politics
>Truth

 

[Futurdreamz]

Trump would implode if he was never allowed to lie. He lied his ass off to the extent that he's now being prosecuted for some of his most damaging ones. The media has done a poor job of covering him this entire time, and amplified the volume of disinformation as a result.

That's certainly one interpretation of events. You got examples that weren't proven false or meaningless? The Steele Dossier has been proven to be a complete fabrication, and he recently bought a Glock legally - something that Hunter Biden is forbidden from owning and pled guilty to.

 

[Dark_Ansem]

That's certainly one interpretation of events. You got examples that weren't proven false or meaningless? The Steele Dossier has been proven to be a complete fabrication, and he recently bought a Glock legally - something that Hunter Biden is forbidden from owning and pled guilty to.

That's true. Trump can also be legally called a rapist and Hunter Biden can't, because only one of them is one. I know which one of the two I'd rather leave my children with (hint: it's not touchy small-hands).

 

[Xzi]

You got examples that weren't proven false or meaningless?

"Infrastructure week," for one glaring example. Felt like every other week was dubbed that during the Trump administration, and he never did jack shit to help repair or install new infrastructure, anywhere in the country.

he recently bought a Glock legally - something that Hunter Biden is forbidden from owning and pled guilty to.

Trump is under federal felony indictment, he cannot legally purchase a weapon right now. Yet another lie that only his most brainwashed cultists would fall for.

 

[crimson826]

Short term, one could certainly argue in favor of a benevolent dictator over a badly led Democracy. But a benevolent dictator will eventually die, and then the one who replaces them might be a complete tyrant. A Democracy at least has some safeguards in place (not perfect, but better than nothing), and tides can shift easier while maintaining more stability.

 

[Vetusomaru]

Short term, one could certainly argue in favor of a benevolent dictator over a badly led Democracy. But a benevolent dictator will eventually die, and then the one who replaces them might be a complete tyrant. A Democracy at least has some safeguards in place (not perfect, but better than nothing), and tides can shift easier while maintaining more stability.

>Democracy
>Stability

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!