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  1. Y05h1

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    I think nearly everyone paid for their games before moving onto piracy, and now it would just be a step backwards.
     
  2. Filet-O-Fish

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    If they were smarter, They'd make the system brick along with the flashcart.
     
  3. alphafour

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    hehe yeh I would imagine there's something in the terms of use which says they're not liable for any damage to console during "improper use" or something and I'm positive that they would include playing pirated games as improper use
     
  4. JsdMaNintendo

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    Without a doubt. The 3DS is such an upgrade, I'd be willing to buy the games, even though I'd rather not. The 3DS is just flat out amazing. I plan to buy it day 1, if not, pre-order it, and get Ocarina of Time the first day it's out, then afterwords I plan to buy an AceKard3DS, but if it can't be hacked, I'll live.
     
  5. DiscostewSM

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    You're one of the few that pirates a game to "test" whether it is to your liking (each person has their own taste in what's good or not), but most people who pirate a game (liking it or not) don't share your follow-up. If a lot more people were to follow your example, I'm sure the push to prevent piracy wouldn't be so great as it is now. There's no denying that many games aren't worth the price of the card they were put on, but with the internet, literally every game that is considered reviewable is examined by countless reviewers. While I said earlier that each to their own, it's at least a good marker for what you could expect.
     
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  7. DiscostewSM

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    I'm sure more people would buy the games instead of pirating them if they were cheaper, but others still feel inclined that free is not only the better choice, but that it's their right that they shouldn't have to pay anything at all. Plus, the companies, if they sold the games for less at initial release than the standard price, would need to sell even more of the games to make up for the price cut. If a game was slashed by 20%, then they'd need to sell at least 25% more of the product to maintain the balance.
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    (( 1 / ( 1 - .20 )) - 1 ) = .25
    If they sold more than 25% more, then they'd gain a profit from the price slash. If they sold less than 25% more, then they got a loss from doing it. This isn't taking into account any other factors, such as the need to produce more cards (costing more), shipping them out, etc.
     
  8. monkat

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    Well, to those asking for price cuts, keep them asking on disc-based systems.

    Cartridges are expensive to manufacture, and the price won't go down too much.
     
  9. Saddamsdevil

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    Fun fact: I bought the original DS when I didn't even know about flashcarts.

    I voted yes.
     
  10. Orangejb5

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    ^ yeah. i never even knew flash carts existed till this year. i already have a lot of legit games anyways. so im voting yes.
     
  11. Zetta_x

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    I will never buy an expensive game to support a developer to continue releasing expensive games. If games were only 1 dollar each, I would buy every single one of my games. Obviously, they are not a dollar and will never be a dollar, but there exist some point where I would buy a DS game at some price. If developers can't sell it for that cheap, they would need to compensate for me not buying the game at all. Even a dollar is more than nothing at all aside they would probably lose money on the DS cart itself, but I would be willing to buy a digital copy.
     
  12. Guild McCommunist

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    So you're saying unless a game is insanely cheap (like to the point where the price barely even outweighs the production costs), you won't buy it? That's makes complete sense [​IMG]

    I'm willing to pay money for a game to ensure a good continuation of it. The last game I bought for my Wii was No More Heroes 2 and it's the only game I bought since I started pirating Wii games. And even though it was an average game I'd still buy it again if it meant a chance to get a No More Heroes 3 that could truly live up to the first game (which I also have). Same goes with MadWorld, although that was just awesome from top to bottom.
     
  13. Midna

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    In other words, "I only pay for things on the App Store"
     
  14. Rayder

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    There's only the slightest chance that I will buy a 3DS, especially if it never gets hacked. That slight chance will increase greatly if it does get hacked.

    For me, one of the 3DS's main gimmicks (3D) will not work for me as I'm blind in one eye. That's the first strike against it. Second is the firmware updates.....I don't like the idea of the 3DS possibly being hacked, and then Ninty puts out a firmware update (that you can't flatly deny without losing the ability to play newer games) to block the hack. It's the main reason I never bothered with a DSi (or any current consoles for that matter) and stuck with a DSlite. If that tag-mode baloney in the 3DS can't be turned off and they plan to update without necessarily getting your consent, then I won't even consider the system. Game systems are becoming far too online-centric for my tastes as I don't play games online. But if I'm forced to go online to update, or a game insists on an update before allowing me play said game, they can keep their 3DS.

    Then there are various other reasons I'm not likely to buy a 3DS, such as the fact that the industry does not produce games that an old-schooler like me actually likes. Yes, there are some, but very few in comparison to games I consider crap. Unfortunately though, a great deal of games I consider crap, you guys all go ga-ga over, so in all likelihood, there's little chance that games I'd like will ever be made in a high enough quantity to warrant a purchase of the system by me.

    Lastly, the fact that I seem to be losing interest in gaming in general (likely due to the above factors) means the old DSlite is probably the last gaming system I will ever own.

    In short, not hacked has maybe a 1% to 5% chance of being purchased by me. If it gets hacked......maybe a 10% to 25% chance that I will buy it.
     
  15. Zetta_x

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    Price for a game is highly subjective. Would you pay for games if they were $200 each? No? What makes you different from me? Your value of money is different than mine. I don't think money should be wasted on games when I could be buying things that aren't on copyable storage media. If I am not going to pay for a game, I am not going to pay for a game if it is pirate-able or not.

    That's the problem (supporting developers), developers have so much money where they can monopolize the gaming industry. They have enough power to force people to buy their games (anti-piracy) even when they sell them on copyable media devices. They have power to set up laws to tell you that you are wrong in this society if you do the obvious and copy their code because you can do it for free. So you are saying that you support these people no matter how much power they have over you and the gaming industry?

    In reality, the facts about DVD's and DS carts (not flash carts) is that you are able to copy the data on them. When you work with software, you are working with data that can easily be copied. It's one thing to try and stop people from copying their data, however, by attempting to define wrong and right in doing so bridges onto what is 'true morality' discussion. Bottom line, societies' morality is highly influenced by people with power used to control people. In reality, it is not wrong to copy someone else's work especially how easy it is to do so. What society has successfully done is make you feel that it is wrong to do so.

    We have different opinions, that is obvious. As a person who can think, I hold rights to my own opinions whether we you agree or not.
     
  16. danweb

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    Those people that are saying that games should be cheaper should bargain and argue with the price. I bought The World Ends With You for $10 (AUD) and Klonoa for $9 (AUD) just earlier today (10 AUD is about 9.8 USD according to xe.com) Which is about $18.60 in USD. This is for some of the best DS and Wii games that are on offer. It isn't hard to get these prices, you just need to ask around and try harder to get them at your price. (They were both new copies by the way, and from JB Hi-Fi)

    Games don't have to be expensive!
     
  17. Chris_Skylock

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    I will buy not 1, not 2, not 3 but 6 Nintendo 3DS. lololololol

    1 for me, 1 for my sis, 1 for Esperanza, 1 for Gwen, 1 Yshi, and 1 for Nadine. The latter four are not my relatives whatsoever.
     
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    So if my friend has a copy bought, and I borrow his system + game over lunch, give it a go, and decides that "nah, this game ain't for me", I'm stealing?
    Checklist:
    I was interested in the game? Yes.
    One less copy sold? Yes.
    Prevented profit gains to each company who's game the person tested? Yes.
    Theft? Accordint to this: Yeah probably?
     
  19. FireGrey

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    The 3DS WILL be hacked but it will be a long time, i say at least 2 years and at most 5 years.
    Or it could be hacked on the release day (wouldn't ninty look stupid?) or in 20 years.
    We'll have to wait and see.
     
  20. DiscostewSM

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    Last I heard, game companies were having to layoff some of their employees. I don't see how they could be "rolling in the dough" if they're doing that.
    They have the power to set laws for their products because it is "their" property. When you buy a game, it doesn't become your property. You become a licensee to use the product. Don't like it? Take it to the government, who enforces it. They saying it's wrong to copy their code? It's their property, and they have a right to protect it.
     
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