i've been trying for the past 3 days to get this working, but still no luck. maybe you guys can point out where i've gone wrong. first though, i have a question: since i have a WiiKey installed and that i've just softmodded using xzxero's guide, which method is now doing the work? is it the softmod, or are they working in conjunction with each other, or is the WiiKey just sitting there doing nothing now? now on to the NSMBW problem... i have... ------------------------------- WiiKey1 v1.9s NTSC-U Wii 4.2U (updated from 3.2U using the Simplistic Mod) Gecko OS 1.9.3 Uloader 3.1 New.Super.Mario.Bros.Wii.Pal.Fixed.Nitro and also New_Super_Mario_Bros_Wii_USA_Wii-Scrub-DiiTOX New_Super_Mario_Bros_Wii_USA_PROPER_FiX_Wii-iND both burned to disk (i have no usb devices to try with) the NTSCU disk worked fine unpatched for about 5 minutes, then it crashes. i couldnt figure out how to patch the iso, so i tried the PAL fixed disk instead. that one doesnt work either. i've tried loading both through both Gecko and Uloader. i'm not familiar at all with Gecko, so maybe i just have some settings wrong. the best results i've gotten to far was loading the unpatched NTSCU disk with Uloader 3.1. it works, but crashes after a while. everything else i've tried either wont load or will give a green screen. should i try NeoGamma? which version? do i need to install any other IOS/cIOS files?