Why does everyone hate Epic?

[D34DL1N3R]

It boils down to the fact that the majority of people who bash on EPIC are just band-wagoners. End of discussion.

 

[eyeliner]

I use any frontend that has any game I like. I just want games, don't care for social crap, workshop or achievements.
I like a clean, simple interface. I dislike Steam client and barely use it. I keep EGS in the background and have a couple games installed.
I disable auto loading from whatever client I happen to have installed and that's it.

I don't love them nor hate them. I use them.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

My friend's demon little brother sold his life to that game. At this point he's probably spent over 500 dollars on it and he's only 12. The game corrupted him.

Well... I guess he's always been a demon but he's especially demonic when he can't have his turn on the Switch to play Fortnite. Not something you want to deal with when you're trying to get in practice the night before a concert.

Jokes aside, it's really terrible what Epic's monetization strategy for Fortnite has done to people. It traps in people susceptible to addiction and absolutely destroys incomes. Of course, this is a problem with the game industry as a whole obviously and other games have been worse with lootboxes, but that certainley doesn't make Epic innocent.

What do you mean? It always said that. Always has been that, if you will.

Just get him his own Switch. Problem solved.

 

[Silent_Gunner]

Oh my God, are people not informed or have any understanding of what they're saying here.

For starters, without capitalism or a free market, you guys would be stuck with just Steam, except it'd be nationalized and owned by the government, and the games on there would be regulated to Hell and back, and you wouldn't be able to play games for as long or as often as you want. You want to know what a world without a choice in where you shop looks for gaming? Look no further than China.



Those of you who want socialism, I ask you this; what would you do to make sure that people would be just as fine as they are under capitalism as they would be under your ideal world?

@D34DL1N3R "Band-wagoners." Yeah, sure. Nice way to put critics with legit points in a box. Just like the leftists calling everyone even slightly to the right of their ideology some variant of "-ism" or "-ist." And yes, I'm bringing politics into this because its the same flawed thinking that leads to problems going from bad to worse, and frankly, politics is involved in everything when there's so much rampant corruption in the system.


As for my opinion on EGS, assuming I even want to play the game, I have more than enough games in my Steam backlog and other backlogs. All Epic has is a shitty frontend with features even Steam's previous competitors had and still have, and trying to cling onto relevance as people leave Fortnite because there's more games than just what PewDiePie, Ninja, Markiplier, or *insert Youtuber playing game that I can't afford to play myself here because I don't have a job to get a gaming PC or some consoles here*.

You guys don't have to be consumers of Epic. You can decide to do whatever you want with the money and resources you have. And personally, I can live with not having to play Borderlands 3 for a year since I already have the second one, I barely even played it at all, and I will always be able to play it later at some point thanks to the Internet.

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Wait, epic game store was the one that had rocket league on there but some how unable to purchase on steam all of a sudden?

Are there more games like this case?

Mortal Kombat 9 is also like this, unfortunately. Probably due to the contract for them to use Freddy Krueger as a guest expiring. Doesn't mean you're out of options if you want to still play it on PC, if you know what I mean...

 

[Kwyjor]

For starters, without capitalism or a free market, you guys would be stuck with just Steam, except it'd be nationalized and owned by the government, and the games on there would be regulated to Hell and back

I think there are many who would readily agree that Steam is doing a pretty crappy job with regulation and that there are a lot of things that really shouldn't be sold on Steam on account of being buggy, content-free asset-flips that are genuinely devoid of merit except for a means of funneling money to the "developer".

I ask you this; what would you do to make sure that people would be just as fine as they are under capitalism as they would be under your ideal world?

I am not an economist, but isn't the whole point that a few people definitely should not be "just as fine" as they are right now, and a whole lot of people are not "fine" at all?

 

[Silent_Gunner]

I think there are many who would readily agree that Steam is doing a pretty crappy job with regulation and that there are a lot of things that really shouldn't be sold on Steam on account of being buggy, content-free asset-flips that are genuinely devoid of merit except for a means of funneling money to the "developer".

The way I look at it is that people should be the judges of quality, and if Steam Greenlight has the reputation its gained due to people abusing things, customers should decide for themselves to not give money or support to these projects, and to let them die out like they should when a company puts out an unsatisfactory product in any other part of the market. The gold will rise to the top, while the fool's gold will burn up!

 

[Purple_Heart]

now i hate Shitty Epic more than before.......i mean Kingdom Hearts comes for PC and its FUCKING EPIC EXCLUSIVE?...FUCK U EPIC
....i dont know what to do i am a die hard KH Fan but its on Epic...aaaaaaa

 

[Kanakops]

Because it's cool and trendy, god save the steam.

+ yeah they did fortnite and fortnite is the "cancer of the video games" boooh booh

They obviously need to be aggressive if they want players to actually use the epic launcher. How much people compared to steam are using origin/uplay/gog ? Exclusives on epic is not a bad deal, who care it's just an other launcher, you are not forced to buy a hecking new console.

I don't care to be honest if they want to spit on epic, force to them, They treat player better with better sales and giving us free game. I'm using steam and epic, at the end of the day, yes, i'm winning dad.

 

[Seliph]

Just get him his own Switch. Problem solved.

Well it's not so much of a problem of him hogging the switch as he's pretty much the only one who uses it, it's moreso a problem of him wanting to spend so much money on the game and throwing massive fits if he doesn't get what he wants

Because he is a demon

 

[Xzi]

I think there are many who would readily agree that Steam is doing a pretty crappy job with regulation and that there are a lot of things that really shouldn't be sold on Steam on account of being buggy, content-free asset-flips that are genuinely devoid of merit except for a means of funneling money to the "developer".

Because it doesn't have user reviews, this is an even bigger problem on EGS. So many of their games rate at a 60 or below on metacritic, including some of those they paid out exclusivity contracts for.

 

[Silent_Gunner]

Because it doesn't have user reviews, this is an even bigger problem on EGS. So many of their games rate at a 60 or below on metacritic, including some of those they paid out exclusivity contracts for.

For real!? The games they pay for timed exclusivity score at a 60 and below!?

 

[Kwyjor]

and if Steam Greenlight has the reputation its gained due to people abusing things

Steam Greenlight ceased to be a thing three years ago.
https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/6/15749692/steam-direct-launch-date-valve-greenlight

customers should decide for themselves to not give money or support to these projects, and to let them die out like they should when a company puts out an unsatisfactory product in any other part of the market. The gold will rise to the top, while the fool's gold will burn up!

Except when a company puts out an unsatisfactory product in any other part of the market, eventually the product disappears and people don't have to think about it anymore. Everything on Steam lingers, and more and more stuff is added every day.

Because it doesn't have user reviews, this is an even bigger problem on EGS. So many of their games rate at a 60 or below on metacritic, including some of those they paid out exclusivity contracts for.

Interesting. Come to think of it, I remember being really intrigued by SuperMash, to which reviews have been most unkind. (It is no longer exclusive.)

But I don't think user reviews are a solution there. I mean, do you bother reading user reviews much? Would you rely on them in making a purchase instead of Googling for an (ostensibly) professional review?

 

[ccfman2004]

Epic promised that they would only take a 12% cut of what a game made if they signed an exclusivity deal which also include a Non Disclosure Agreement so the devs couldn't go public with what Epic really charged them. They charged them 60% and the devs could't do a thing until the deal was over.

 

[Xzi]

For real!? The games they pay for timed exclusivity score at a 60 and below!?

Stuff like Rune 2 and Shenmue 3, yeah.

But I don't think user reviews are a solution there. I mean, do you bother reading user reviews much? Would you rely on them in making a purchase instead of Googling for an (ostensibly) professional review?

Sure, you can always find at least a few detailed user reviews on page one of any Steam game. The overall score usually gives you a pretty good idea of the game's level of polish if nothing else, also.

 

[subcon959]

Maybe it's a generational thing but I don't remember caring about the features a shop offered when I went and bought a big box PC game. Remember those? I especially liked being able to borrow them from friends or sell them to help fund the next game.

My point: All digital storefronts are the same to me, they all represent a shift in my hobby that took away something nice about it. Steam was the main culprit, even though I've been a member since it launched in 2004, I hold a grudge to this day.

Maybe it's mostly nostalgia though. I mean, have you ever held a big box DOS release in your hands? Premium.

 

[Julie_Pilgrim]

unpopular opinion time

i love epic games.

i think the launcher is visibly pleasing to look at, super simple to use. sure it lacks some features but i never liked comment sections anyway.

not to mention, free games. i could sell my epic account with all my free games on there.

of course there are things that could be better, but for me? i don't give a flying FUCK if the developers or the producers or whatever are not getting their moola. it's not my issue, and i'd still play minecraft if it was made by poor people. (don't comment on that last comment, it's not meant to be discussed because i know what people like to do and they like to pick apart things they think are dumb so i'm gonna stretch this post a little bit longer and say don't comment about it.)

thank you for your time

your opinions are valued.

tl;dr

i like epic games.

This is a crime against gamer-kind,you will now be crucified

 

[Viri]

now i hate Shitty Epic more than before.......i mean Kingdom Hearts comes for PC and its FUCKING EPIC EXCLUSIVE?...FUCK U EPIC
....i dont know what to do i am a die hard KH Fan but its on Epic...aaaaaaa

Tim Sweeney already paid for your copy, so get it the other way . Just buy it when it hits Steam, if you wanna support Square.

Also, it'll probably have Denuvo. I personally wouldn't buy a game with Denuvo, lol.

 

[subcon959]

Epic is giving away Rage 2 tomorrow (18th). I'm willing to bet a good amount of Epic haters are gonna quietly take the hand out.

 

[FAST6191]

Did Rage 2 ever get any good?

The first was all flash and some very nice tech clearly made by people that knew their stuff but no substance underneath it. Second was more of that and somehow even less substance. However I have not heard anything of it since launch and many things these days do seem to get all the nice DLC, updates and whatnot to make it worth looking at.