Westboro "Church" wants to protest at Jobs' funeral

[Foxi4]

Foxi4, this is Freedom of Speech though. This is exactly what our First Amendment protects.

Freedom of Speech does not mean you are allowed to say whatever you want - everything has boundries.

For the sake of the argument, I will give you an example. If I say "Black people don't have souls", it will be conscidered by a judge as a racist slur or even a hate crime if I scream it outloud in a malicious intent to gather other racist bastards. This is not what the 1st ammendment protects me from - this is being an idiot.

 

[smile72]

Anything that does not cause physical harm to a person is Freedom of Speech. Nope you can say the n-word, shout it in the ghettos if you want, it's fine it's Freedom of Speech. What they do to you however will only get them in trouble because your allowed to speak your mind, no matter how unpopular it is. As long as you don't intend for those racist to physically harm people it's fine.

 

[Rydian]

Anything that does not cause physical harm to a person is Freedom of Speech. Nope you can say the n-word, shout it in the ghettos if you want, it's fine it's Freedom of Speech.

Woah there. Freedom of speech does have some restrictions, I suggest you go look it up.

For example "slander", "libel", and "fighting words".

 

[Foxi4]

Anything that does not cause physical harm to a person is Freedom of Speech. Nope you can say the n-word, shout it in the ghettos if you want, it's fine it's Freedom of Speech. What they do to you however will only get them in trouble because your allowed to speak your mind, no matter how unpopular it is. As long as you don't intend for those racist to physically harm people it's fine.

I'm afraid that you are incorrect in your assumptions - screaming out racial slurs is conscidered a hate crime and is penalized by the American Judicial System.


QUOTE(Rydian @ Oct 7 2011, 10:16 PM) Woah there. Freedom of speech does have some restrictions, I suggest you go look it up.

For example "slander", "libel", and "fighting words".

Thank you for clearing it up, people really overrate the concept of "Freedom of Speech".

 

[Veho]

Foxi4, this is Freedom of Speech though. This is exactly what our First Amendment protects.
QUOTEIn the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are several statutory and common law exceptions including obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, information decreed to be related to national security such as classified information, false advertising, perjury, harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, copyright, patents, military conduct, and time, place and manner restrictions.

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

The famous example of where freedom of speech is limited is that you can't yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater simply to watch people stampede all over one another.
That freedom does and should have it's limitations.

 

[Foxi4]

In the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are several statutory and common law exceptions including obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, information decreed to be related to national security such as classified information, false advertising, perjury, harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, copyright, patents, military conduct, and time, place and manner restrictions.

Perfect - even your own constitution screams that they should be closed down by now.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

In the United States freedom of expression is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. There are several statutory and common law exceptions including obscenity, defamation, incitement, incitement to riot or imminent lawless action, fighting words, information decreed to be related to national security such as classified information, false advertising, perjury, harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, copyright, patents, military conduct, and time, place and manner restrictions.

Perfect - even your own constitution screams that they should be closed down by now.

Until the time that one of these "protests" causes a riot or a fight of some sort to break out, well...unfortunately there is nothing that the law can do. There is no legal precedent for this sort of thing, but I'm sure there will be one soon.

The funny thing is, is some towns have skirted legal boundaries themselves to prevent these protests, such as finding the hotel that the folks are staying at, and "accidentally" having all their cars towed and then released back to them once the funeral is over.

 

[godreborn]

u have to get a permit to protest though, which I'm sure this church has never gotten.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

u have to get a permit to protest though, which I'm sure this church has never gotten.

Depending on where it is, yes, but many cities do not require a permit for protests.

 

[Gwaith]

u have to get a permit to protest though, which I'm sure this church has never gotten.

You're very wrong then. This "church" picketed many funerals already and they were never forced from any of them. Much on the contrary, they are mostly protected by present police forces. There are two incredibly interesting documentaries with Louis Theroux from the BBC. One of them being quite recent (6 months or so). Once you see these documentaries you can only come to the conclusion that these people are either:
A) batshit crazy or
B) want to step on as many toes as possible or
C) all of the above.

They really seem to crave for the attention of the media and will do the most obscene things to get that attention.

 

[Thesolcity]

Private funeral with a LiveStream from an undisclosed location.

Problem Solved.

 

[chyyran]

What the hell..

Some examples of their "sister sites"

Spoiler: Viewer Discretion is advised

GodHatesIslam.com
GodHatesTheWorld.com
GodHatesTheMedia.com
JewsKilledJesus.com
PriestsRapeBoys.com
And their own site is GodHatesFags.com


Apparently, WBC's God is a Violent, Disturbed, Racist, Raping, Sadistic, Hating, Emo.

Spoiler: What the Phelps really look like

 

[AceWarhead]

What the hell..

Some examples of their "sister sites"

Spoiler: Viewer Discretion is advised

GodHatesIslam.com
GodHatesTheWorld.com
GodHatesTheMedia.com
JewsKilledJesus.com
PriestsRapeBoys.com
And their own site is GodHatesFags.com


Apparently, WBC's God is a Violent, Disturbed, Racist, Raping, Sadistic, Hating, Emo.

Spoiler: What the Phelps really looks like

SO, they basically hate everything? Why don't they just DIE?!

 

[chaosdarkneo]

They hate everything... but life. which is unfortunate. They hate all ASPECTS of life, but not life itself. Truly, they should FUCKING DIE IN A FUCKING PIT FULL OF SHIT WHERE EVERYONE WILL PISS ON THEIR DEAD BODIES, THEN WE FUCKING PROTEST AT THEIR FUCKING FUNERALS, PRICKHEADS!

 

[Deleted_171835]

They hate everything... but life. which is unfortunate. They hate all ASPECTS of life, but not life itself. Truly, they should FUCKING DIE IN A FUCKING PIT FULL OF SHIT WHERE EVERYONE WILL PISS ON THEIR DEAD BODIES, THEN WE FUCKING PROTEST AT THEIR FUCKING FUNERALS, PRICKHEADS!

I hope you guys realize that wishing death upon them makes you just as bad.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Considering Baptists generally read from the Bible, how can this independent "church" expect to follow the 2nd greatest commandment of "love thy neighbor" with these protests?

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Considering Baptists generally read from the Bible, how can this independent "church" expect to follow the 2nd greatest commandment of "love thy neighbor" with these protests?

They don't have any neighbors.

But man, she's got all the trolling down. Her retort to using an iPhone was basically a big "haters gonna hate" statement.

 

[YoshiKart]

It's sad that some pass them as actual Christians. They're just a satirist group trying to put down Christianity.

 

[Zetta_x]

*facepalm*

They don't need to hire lawyers to get put behind bars, they need to hire a hitman to do it discreetly.

Believe it or not, they are a form of religion. While they call themselves Christians, don't be confused with Christians you see today. Everyone who says this Church aren't true Christians need to realize one thing; Christianity was originated thousands of years ago (if not more), what do you know about true Christians?