Warning when updating emunand

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  1. gamesquest1
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    seems 2 users have had their 3ds "semi-bricked" by updating sysnand whilst in gateway mode on 2.4b, despite this being mistakes on both users parts, i think we can agree that it seems there is a issue there, so word of warning just make 100% sure you have emunand set up and follow the guides to the letter......as if you enter gateway mode while on sysnand and run a update your console will likely end up with the good old black screen of death(not to be confused with the brick code blue screen of death)

    im thinking there must be some sort of bug here as the worst that should happen is sysnand would be updated

    im pretty sure this will this can be fixed by just re-flashing a nand backup via a hardmod....but again make 100% sure you have a nand backup and make 100% sure you have picked format emunand before running a system update on 2.4b

    Just to clarify as long as you see GW3D#.# and not Ver.#.# in system setting you should be fine it only appears to happen to people who haven't set emunand up and where already well on their way to a updated system nand anyway

    im kinda guessing gateway might actually be apply some sort of patch or something to the nand as its updated, (which is why its not booting when applied to the sysnand) but works in emunand....this is the most logical explanation to me
     
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    GUYS THE BRICKING CODE IS BACK!! AHHHH!!
     
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    I don't know what the other one did .... but the one I read updated the console on gateway mode without emunand lol.... might be a bug but it's their fault for not using emunand on the first place
     
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    Really it never left. Though people updating their sysnand seems to happen every time gateway gets compatibility again.
     
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    yeah both users updated while not having emunand set up......probably a bug of some sort, hasnt happened to anyone who has emunand set up properly but figured its best to warn people so they make sure they have nand backups and follow the guides properly and set up emunand before updating
     
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    I get an influx of people needing their NANDs restored every time Nintendo updates the 3DS.
     
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    Are you sure those people were aware of quiting setting returning back to sysnand..etc. because as a newbie about emunand i updated my emunand in 15 mins and update proccess took 14mins.. read tutorials carefully people!
     
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    yeah the issue here is that it actually makes the console unbootable.....not just updated
     
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    you mean updating on classic mode?
     
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    Updating on Classic Mode without Emunand set up, yes.
     
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    no as in never setting emunand up but booting into plain old gateway mode on sysnand
     
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    This sounds pretty serious.. like gw rushing a fw w/o testing enough.. although this is what piracy deserves it sucks..
     
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    Yeah, I've noticed a few bugs with switching roms on the menu, too. Sometimes it ends up locking the whole mechanism up until I take the cartridge out. Methinks you're right.
     
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    So, I might be a noob here.

    I got into emunand lately. Two weeks ago I created and updated my emunand for the first time. I got it from 4.5 to 8.x (I don't know anymore.).

    Right now, I would like to update my emunand to 9.0.

    I see different things, is there any tutorial I should follow, or things I should or shouldn't do?

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
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    let me make a Q&A on this bricking cases.

    Q: Why did my console brick?
    A: Because you didn't read how to use gateway

    Q: What can i do now?
    A: 1) Learn to read.
    2) Cry.
     
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    It's so simple. Boot in gateway by system settings, then go to system settings again, if the GW firmware shows at the bottom corner then that's your cue to UPDATE the emunand.

    Don't forget to copy over the launcher.dat before the update

    Geez even before I owned a GW, I had to watch countless videos to not screw shit.
     
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    I understand that. But from Emunand 8.1 and Gateway Omega 2.3b can I just update 2.3b to 2.4 and then boot Gateway mode -> update trough system settings to emunand 9? or what?
     
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    1. put new launcher.dat on SD
    2 boot into emunand
    3. go to system settings and make sure it says GW3D on the system version(if it says ver.#.# that means you do not have emunand set up....go read the guides again)
    4. go directly to the system update page do not exit system settings...just straight to update and run the update
     
  19. Abcdfv

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    Yep. Update your launcher, then update your emunand. Or update your emunand, then update your launcher.
     
  20. terawyvenx

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    Nah you have copy the launcher.dat of GW 2.4b to SD card 1st and then boot into gateway and do the update