Question The REAL Reason why no XCI support outside of SXOS

Discussion in 'Switch - Emulation, Homebrew & Software Projects' started by Grmmish, May 13, 2019.

  1. stitchxd

    stitchxd GBAtemp Regular

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    nope
    Atmosphere AFAIK supports installing NSP's, commercial or homebrew.
     
  2. hippy dave

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    Not as it comes, you can't install them unless you add patches. Also atmosphere itself does nothing that contributes to the installing of nsps, it's all Horizon's own routines and separate homebrew installers.
     
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  3. stitchxd

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    nope
    yes - Kosmos (a sort of AIO atmosphere port I suppose) has all these built in if that helps you further.
     
  4. Grmmish
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    I guess Kosmos is distributing illegal software?
     
  5. RednaxelaNnamtra

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    The nsp patched should be legal to be distributed, since they don't need any Nintendo code. The installing routine is already included in the retail firmware, but only allows the installation of properly signed files out of the box, so your own eshop dumps and system files.
     
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  6. Draxzelex

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    And: https://gbatemp.net/threads/no-more...mbers-inside-the-code-of-the-software.533912/

    Seriously, are you trolling or are you actually this dumb? Because I refuse to believe you are this misinformed yet asking redundant questions.
     
  7. ghjfdtg

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    If you happen to live under a rock: They deem NSP just as relevant as XCI. NRO is the only officially supported homebrew format and everything else comes from the community.
    XCI loading requires certificates, lots of patches and shit of which the first are not legal to redistribute. NSP only requires patches + an installer of which the later is completely independent. As said they don't give a fuck about these formats.
     
  8. RednaxelaNnamtra

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    There is one exception, which uses the nsp format, but not to install them, the sys-modules im nsp format.
     
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  9. rob4

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    Do you remember devolution for the wii?
    That developer was against piracy and made the app with protection (using the original disc to boot) to avoid piracy.

    So anything else, for me, is just words.
    XCI and NSP is the same.
     
  10. lordelan

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    I don't know if that was a real question.
    EmuNAND is for two kind of people:
    1. People that are not banned yet but want to use hacks. So they can do this:
      sysNAND -> hackfree -> online play
      emuNAND -> CFW -> homebrews
    2. People (and especially devs) that are playing around with stuff that might break the system.
      If it breaks, nobody gives a f*ck as it was nothing but an emuNAND which they can restore by simply moving some files and folders around on SD.
     
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  11. hippy dave

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    You know atmosphere is open source, right? If they put in any kind of protection, you'd just get forks with it taken out.
     
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  12. ghjfdtg

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    And even then anyone who has a little understanding of reverse engineering can patch it out in minutes.
     
  13. ModderFokker619

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    If nintendo cant stop piracy how can Atmo team?

    Either way a free xci loader would be awesome!
     
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  14. BionicGecko

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    Well to be fair Nintendo is doing a much better job this time around than with the previous consoles. It was nVidia who messed up this time, and as far as I know there is still no way to have piracy on ipatched units.
     
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  15. ModderFokker619

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    Actually Switch was one of the fastest hacked consoles

    Ipatched are hacked in private as of now

    And to be fair Nintendo is responsible for their systems
     
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  16. BionicGecko

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    Still, I think the switch is still better protected than the Wii / Wii U / 3DS. But indeed, I agree it’s not all on nVidia’s shoulders.

    Is that true? I missed that. Do you have any source for this?
     
  17. NFates

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    Probably home.
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  18. BionicGecko

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    Ah thanks, that’s really good to know; I do have a RCM-hack-enabled unit, and was about to update to 8.0, but the prospect of a real CFW without having to go through RCM will make me think this over! Hope it doesn’t take years to come out...
     
  19. Draxzelex

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    Pray tell, how does booting CFW via the web browser make the CFW any more "real" especially since you are going to be booting the same CFW as you would through RCM?

    Also Deja Vu is unofficially out but only for firmwares 3.0 and below for now.
     
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  20. BionicGecko

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    Ah you’re right, I’ve been out of the loop for too long now, forgot that Déjà Vu has to be launched via a WebKit exploit.
     
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