The FCC plans to vote away net neutrality in December

[RedBlueGreen]

So are you seriously saying America only has 2 broadband providers?? Because if so why?? I live in Scotland which i am sure you know a quite small country of only 5 million people and we have at least 15 broadband service providers and probably a few more i cant think of at the moment. Why on earth does America only have two.

The little guys just don't have the resources to be nation wide and offer the same speed and reliability for home internet. It's similar in Canada as well, but we have pretty shitty internet because we have so few people and such a large country. 80 Mbps internet where I live is like $120.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Why would they do that? I thought they were for net neutrality.
Not like it matters much at this point because net neutrality is pretty much dead and has been for a while. People can try to save it all they want but it's still probably going to be dead in the end.
Edit: Basically, the lobbyists have gotten what they wanted since a few months ago. With some exceptions, net neutrality has failed. It's sad but there's no saving it now.

 

[RedBlueGreen]

Why would they do that? I thought they were for net neutrality.
Not like it matters much at this point because net neutrality is pretty much dead and has been for a while. People can try to save it all they want but it's still probably going to be dead in the end.
Edit: Basically, the lobbyists have gotten what they wanted since a few months ago. With some exceptions, net neutrality has failed. It's sad but there's no saving it now.

Someone in the FCC is a former Verizon lawyer (or maybe it was former management) so they're pushing for net neutrality to be finished so ISP's can charge you additional fees to access sites you want. So big sites like eBay, Amazon, Netflix, and similar sites can be blocked or ISPs can threaten to block them to extort a pretty penny from them. I imagine the guy pushing for this gets a nice kickback from Verizon (and possibly other ISPs).

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

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Why would they do that? I thought they were for net neutrality.
Not like it matters much at this point because net neutrality is pretty much dead and has been for a while. People can try to save it all they want but it's still probably going to be dead in the end.
Edit: Basically, the lobbyists have gotten what they wanted since a few months ago. With some exceptions, net neutrality has failed. It's sad but there's no saving it now.

They're doing it because the head of the FCC is a former Verizon lawyer and can do whatever he wants now that he's in charge.

And don't believe the fight for net neutrality is dead. If it was, the big Internet companies wouldn't be as anxious to get rid of it.

Edit: Internet, not cable

 

[the_randomizer]

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They're doing it because the head of the FCC is a former Verizon lawyer and can do whatever he wants now that he's in charge.

And don't believe the fight for net neutrality is dead. If it was, the big Internet companies wouldn't be as anxious to get rid of it.

Edit: Internet, not cable

Verizon, the FCC, and the people behind the who premise of removing net neutrality are all a bunch of greedy bastards. I hope their proposal fails.

 

[DJPlace]

who ever is doing this shit need there balls cut off and nailed to the fucking CRO**

 

[jDSX]

This is especially bad for people living in a small part of a city with horrible infrastructure like myself, there is only one ISP here for service, frontier communications from what I hear they are bad but I haven't had a single problem with my service.

 

[CitizenSnips]

I am only able to get hughesnet where I live, I swear if it falls through and they start blocking shit and whatnot i'll be pissed, I cannot let this happen

 

[Sonic Angel Knight]

Economy hasn't gotten better. Or people are just being greedy. Either way is not seem good.

 

[Lacius]

I wonder how many of the people upset about FCC's decision on net neutrality also voted for Donald Trump. It's not like we didn't know this was going to happen.

 

[the_randomizer]

I wonder how many of the people upset about FCC's decision on net neutrality also voted for Donald Trump. It's not like we didn't know this was going to happen.

It was either this or vote for the one who wanted the TPP *shrug* Frankly, neither was fit for office, TPP or FCC, bad medicine.

 

[ThisIsDaAccount]

I wonder how many of the people upset about FCC's decision on net neutrality also voted for Donald Trump. It's not like we didn't know this was going to happen.

This is kinda true (in my eyes at least, cuz I hate Trump), but frankly I think we'll get more work done to fix the issue by not bringing up party lines like this. Net neutrality is one of few principles with broad bipartisan support outside the government, so we'll get more done by using that common ground. We don't win by saying "I told you so", we win by saying "let's not get fucked by these shitty companies and their monopolies".

 

[ThoD]

Instead of protesting the repeal of net neutrality, I recommend you do two things:

1) Use this link that @keven3477 posted to express on your thoughts on net neutrality:
http://www.gofccyourself.com/
If the FCC passes the repeal in spite of large amounts of dissenting comments, they can legally be sued. If you want that to happen, leave a comment!!!!

2) Pick up the phone and call your Senators, and tell them that you will refuse to vote for them again if they do not do something to secure net neutrality. You should especially call your senators if they voted in favor of re nominating Ajit Pai. If you open up the list of votes in the Senate, you'll see that the vote was generally partisan, with Republicans voting in favor of Pai, and Democrats voting against (with the expecting on of 4 Republicans and 4 Democrats). It's up to us, their constituents, to make it known that the issue is not a partisan issue to us, it's an issue of common sense.


Your indication of disapproval may seem like little, but I can promise you it's not.

Who told you such a lie? No matter how many people complain, you CAN'T sue them! The senators and president were elected by YOU to represent you, so whether you like it or not, you can boycott those, but not the FCC or it's decisions. You CAN cause a premature election to happen to replace senators or the president if more than 1/4th of the country is gathered through petitions, but that's never gonna happen with such a huge country. However, in the case that does happen, you can vote them all out of the office and replace them with others who will still be that kind of people!

So are you seriously saying America only has 2 broadband providers?? Because if so why?? I live in Scotland which i am sure you know a quite small country of only 5 million people and we have at least 15 broadband service providers and probably a few more i cant think of at the moment. Why on earth does America only have two.

Same here, in Greece we got like 10 million people and 15 or so providers, even if most aren't that known. In the US it's because the lines were laid out by the government at first and then sold them to investors, but at the time, there were only two individuals who were interested in that investment, so they got a hold of them, built companies and expanded and now things are like this. Now, if any small provider wants to provide internet to people, they "rent" or "borrow" a small part of the lines by one of the other two big companies and that part they get is intentionally and significantly slowed down to even bellow 40% of normal speed. That's also the reason why so many ISPs go with cellular, they prefer a satellite that, while slower, is more dependable and still faster and avoid using the big ISPs' cable lines.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

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They're doing it because the head of the FCC is a former Verizon lawyer and can do whatever he wants now that he's in charge.

And don't believe the fight for net neutrality is dead. If it was, the big Internet companies wouldn't be as anxious to get rid of it.

Edit: Internet, not cable

IIRC the EFF even said as much not long ago, net neutrality is a lost battle. Some semblance of it still remains but it's not what anyone wanted. EFF had to take what they got and what they got was not much worth speaking of.

 

[the_randomizer]

IIRC the EFF even said as much not long ago, net neutrality is a lost battle. Some semblance of it still remains but it's not what anyone wanted. EFF had to take what they got and what they got was not much worth speaking of.

So what do you suggest we do, take it up the tailpipe like sycophantic sheep, nod and say "yes sir?" to the government? I'd rather not take the Orwellian route IMO.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

So what do you suggest we do, take it up the tailpipe like sycophantic sheep, nod and say "yes sir?" to the government? I'd rather not take the Orwellian route IMO.

Not at all, I'm just not sure anything we do at this point will make a difference.

 

[Lacius]

It was either this or vote for the one who wanted the TPP *shrug* Frankly, neither was fit for office, TPP or FCC, bad medicine.

Clinton was against the TPP, and she was very much for net neutrality.

 

[Tigran]

So what do you suggest we do, take it up the tailpipe like sycophantic sheep, nod and say "yes sir?" to the government? I'd rather not take the Orwellian route IMO.

Heh.. Wonder how many people who are not US citizens will be pissed when they can't access youtube or reddit cause a firewall is put in place in order to block them.

Not to mention of the companies can sue the FCC.. A regular can. As the companies are recognized as a person under US law.

 

[the_randomizer]

Clinton was against the TPP, and she was very much for net neutrality.

Hmm, so that makes two of them against it, I thought she flip flopped on the whole ordeal, who knows, no sense in me picking sides, I'm not in the mood in political favoritism. I got into quite a debate on another site and it didn't end well, so for the record, I'm bailing. I will say that there are douchebags on both sides of the spectrum.

Heh.. Wonder how many people who are not US citizens will be pissed when they can't access youtube or reddit cause a firewall is put in place in order to block them.

Not to mention of the companies can sue the FCC.. A regular can. As the companies are recognized as a person under US law.

Good, I hope they get their asses sued.

Not at all, I'm just not sure anything we do at this point will make a difference.

How encouraging. Sod government officials.

 

[Subtle Demise]

Anyway, since the whole FCC thing will never affect me in any way bigger than simply less people doing stuff online, I don't really care and I'm kinda annoyed by how people keep talking about it but don't do anything to actually prevent it! Petitions never do anything, saying you support something doesn't do a thing, all that matters is action and if all you do is stay behind your computer signing petitions and complaining about it, then it's your fault if they take away the net neutrality.

How do you suggest protesting it then? Digging up a bunch of fiber lines? Cutting down the cable lines? DDOSing their DNS servers? Actually that all sounds pretty fun and if a lot of people did it, it would cost them millions to repair all that shit.