Gaming Super Smash Bros. Brawl Official Discussion

[chaseincats]

thanks man

 

[xieu_long]

Who cares what IGN thinks. You guys see the vids of them playing? They r noobs. If I played that badly, I'd be embarassed to post any of those vids.

 

[george1nehme]

anyone got single layer brawl working on NTSC Wii wiikey 1.9g yet cause i cant

 

[poke50uk]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Super-Smash-Bros-Bra...1QQcmdZViewItem

£125 for a real copy on eBay O_O
mines coming next week....
if this rip is successful...

profit

 

[smse]

any savegame for play with sonic>¿

 

[xiaNaix]

anyone got single layer brawl working on NTSC Wii wiikey 1.9g yet cause i cant

Yes, it works fine.

 

[Redsquirrel]

it does kinda feel like melee 1.5. I have yet to play the SSE im hoping thats good. It feels very much like melee, but with new levels, items and some new characters.

doesnt exactly mean its a bad thing, its just not the huge step up i thought it would be.

 

[Anakir]

CREDIT GOES TO OoNoiRoO FROM SMASHBOARDS. These are techniques for who may want to learn somewhat advance techniques in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Well, as some of you may know, I have my own copy of SSBBrawl in my hands.

I have been trying to find as many advances techniques, and so far I think I have been quite successful given having the game for only 2 days.

If anyone wishes to contribute, then I'd be more than happy to accept.



Here are the things I have found out so far...


Gameplay Mechanics

List of notable things
- No one can DJC
- Analog Shielding is out(Must press L/R all the way down)
- JC grabs are out
- Dash dance is very very small*
- L-canceling out*
- CCing out*
- Peach cannot float cancel
- Tripping seems entirely random (when initiating a dash)
- You cannot cancel your dash with crouch

The biggest one so far is probably

Fox Trotting and Pivoting. (not entirely new but...)

VIDEOS:
(Marth) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8wygkxDyI
(Wolf testing) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-tBzYAaGu0

Separate thread:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=140723


This is the brawl alternative for dash dancing. You can also smash attack out of a dash.

Fox trotting is using the initial dash movement continuously to move. It is possible in Brawl.

To do so, you must wait till the end of the dashing animation, then dash again.

In Brawl, you can only do this in one direction. To change directions, you must dash dance.

Every character can dash dance, but only with the initial frames of a starting dash. Because fox trotting uses the starting dash continuously, at the beginning of each "trot", you can initiate a dash dance. You can use this dash dance to change the direction of your fox trot fluidly.

You can also cancel the initial frames of a dash(in the range of what you can dash dance) with an Up Smash, Forward Smash(both ways, shown), Forward B(both ways), Down smash, and down tilt. I'm not sure how to get a down tilt though, as it has come out randomly. Quite possibly other normals are cancelable, but the dash dance makes that impossible to hard.

You can also run one way and immediately dash attack the other way with this.

Possibly the dash dance alternative to brawl?

(a better / clearer explaination would be nice lol, I suck)


Confirmation of no L-Canceling

L-canceling does not exist in Brawl. Simply put, Lag from landing with an aerial attack is determined on what aerial you land with.

EX: Landing with Mario's Fair has decent amount of lag, but landing with a Bair gets almost no lag at all.

Landing from an aerial during it's early frames will sometimes get no lag, depending on the move(usually slow start up ones).

EX: Landing right as you being Peach's Fair will get you no lag, as opposed to landing in the middle of it. Same thing with Kirby's drill.

Confirmation of no Crouch Canceling

VIDEO:
(Marth and Sheik) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyHqbpfJ7lY

One hand I simply do marth's jab A, and in the other hand I try to CC and attack back with Dtilt.

Simply put, crouching does not cancel hit stun.

The last part of the video shows that marth's second jab stuffs the attempted Dtilt after trying to CC the first hit.

Knockback is the same if I hold down or if I don't.


Jump back towards

VIDEO:
(Utilizing Mario's Bair)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC3W_AxqxSE

Not entirely advanced, but...

Because of the new game mechanics in Brawl, you can run forward, turn around, and jump, making your character keep your forward jumping momentum while facing the other way.

Simply Run forward, then turn around and jump at the same time. Then hold the direction you were running toward.

This feels like a very important technique, as many characters have very good Back aerials, but bad or decent Neutral airs or forward airs.

This was possible in melee, but your momentum was slowed down. Not entirely "advance", but very useful.

GIF examples of jump back toward (video from me, GIFs made by Crispy4001)

Seen in the following GIFs is Toon Link running toward Ganondorf and then approaching him with multiple back airs while still moving toward the enemy.

Gliding

To glide, you hold the jump button after your character's second or more jump(assuming the character can glide of course).

You can control the direction of you glide with up or down, but only toward the direction of your glide. If you go up, you will gradually lose speed, but gain altitude. Vice versa for going downward(common sense, right?)

If you direct your glide straight upwards, your glide will cancel. The most downward angle of a glide is around

Any time during the glide, you can press jump to cancel it or A to attack out of it. The gliding A attack is unique and not any of the character's regular aerials.

If your character has a remaining jump after canceling gliding midair, you will be able to do another action after canceling your glide in both ways. This includes using the remaining jump(s). You cannot glide again until you touch the ground EXCEPT for Metaknight, as his up B allows him to glide again.

If your character does not have any remaining jumps after canceling a glide midair, you will enter a falling state.

If you land on the ground while gliding, you will be in a knocked down state.

To avoid this, press jump or A to cancel your glide right before you touch the ground. There will be no landing lag at all.

I feel as if I'm missing something. I'll edit it later if something comes up.

Character specifics

Ice Climbers Desync

VIDEO:
(Ice Climbers desync) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsmjtD9E2gg

Desyncing with ICs in Brawl. Simply dash dance back and forth once, then do an action. Nana should be recovering from a dash as you do an attack. Then you should be desynced.


Falco's SHL

VIDEO:
(FALCO[obviously]) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZqxOGlNErg

Falco's SHL in Brawl. You must delay it or both lasers will go overhead(second one hits ganondorf in the forehead).

Oh, also an important note, you cannot influence your aerial direction nor fastfall while shooting lasers.


Luigi's damaging taunt.

VIDEO:
(Luigi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlHpH3QYvUY

Luigi's taunt is back. The video shows that the move has set knockback.





More to come soon ^__^ Enjoy for now.

Hurrah. Combos are still not that hard.

 

[lordkieranos]

So Whats The Deal With The Crazy Mellee balls That Float Around the stages at certain points???????????

Was fighting against bowser and he got big like a house, hah, but seriously any thoughts

 

[ffsmovieit]

Hey guys,
I have this game working fine and all except i can't connect to anyone online....I've tried several times.....Can anyone give me some help as to why this could be?

Could it be because i can only connect to other PAL users because we're stuck on 50HZ?

I really have no clue....

Help appreciated.

 

[lordkieranos]

Also, Whats with the wii-mote, terrible for this game!!!
Any chance Midna is gonna be in this that would be sa-weet

 

[coolbho3000]

Also, Whats with the wii-mote, terrible for this game!!!
Any chance Midna is gonna be in this that would be sa-weet

0% chance. Because the full roster has already been revealed.

 

[lordkieranos]

Really, that sux, u got a link 2 that little gem?
Answering my own Question, Down and B when you get a melle ball to do specials, sure most of you are aware but what the hell, there it is, my infinite wisdom for you all to appreciate

 

[Hideous]

... I don't understand half of what you just said.

 

[falco123]

Anyone know what the notice is that I keep getting?

After i finished a match, i got some japanese and the number 100, and the notice was an exclamation point.

I thought this meant i played 100 matches already, but then today i got another message with the same 100 and !. i think the text was a little different.

anyone know?

 

[venn]

how do i do the final smash with nunchuck-wiimote.. cant do it no matter what i do

 

[svaver]

i think i heard it was something with B

 

[dopeman]

anyone want to exchange friends codes to play online? anyone know how to check whats their own friend code?

 

[cubin']

RELEASE DATE FOR AUSTRALIA PLZ

 

[ajbrinham]

Say if you had the jap version, would the saves continue on the pal version