Sony's Blames The World for Hacker Woes

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kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.
 
NahuelDS said:
KingdomBlade said:
Just fucking give them a break already, they're already facing significant problems.
You remind me... this
By no means am I a Sony fan. But people that say "THEY SHOULD GET HACKED AGAIN LOLOLOL" piss me off. It's just plain hypocritical. You criticize them for their bad security, then you say they should get hacked? Seriously, if you have to flame them, at least do so without saying random uninformed shit about them.
 
Nathan Drake said:
kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.

I just don't like them at all. I haven't since like 2002, and that's for my own reasons. I would love to see them get taken down and have them stop gloating that they are the best.
 
NahuelDS said:
KingdomBlade said:
Just fucking give them a break already, they're already facing significant problems.
You remind me... this
I lol'd hard!
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But I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion and shouldn't be bashed for it.

Like a friend of mine wants Sega to make a next gen system in the unfortunate event that sony fails as a company. He said it would be called The NextGenesis lol!
 
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.

I just don't like them at all. I haven't since like 2002, and that's for my own reasons. I would love to see them get taken down and have them stop gloating that they are the best.

Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special? They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods, from TV's to game systems to even headphones.

The PS2 was one hell of a successful system and won the day of the last gen. No reason to hate them there, and that is about the only thing that I could see that could easily correlate into that time frame. I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful, but people do anyways.

Uh-oh, off topic. Obviously, disregard if you want to.
 
Nathan Drake said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.

I just don't like them at all. I haven't since like 2002, and that's for my own reasons. I would love to see them get taken down and have them stop gloating that they are the best.

Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special? They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods, from TV's to game systems to even headphones.

The PS2 was one hell of a successful system and won the day of the last gen. No reason to hate them there, and that is about the only thing that I could see that could easily correlate into that time frame. I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful, but people do anyways.

Uh-oh, off topic. Obviously, disregard if you want to.

Opinion. I don't like them for the way they treated me and a bunch of other people for Customer Service, so they can go fuck themselves and go bankrupt.
 
TheDarkSeed said:
I lol'd hard!
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But I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion and shouldn't be bashed for it.

Like a friend of mine wants Sega to make a next gen system in the event that sony fails as a company. He said it would be called The NextGenesis lol!
That would be fair. The PS2 buried the Dreamcast. Maybe its time for Sega's revenge?
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TheDarkSeed said:
Like a friend of mine wants Sega to make a next gen system in the event that sony fails as a company. He said it would be called The NextGenesis lol!
It's the Dreamcast 2

Sega's got a plan. They're secretly developing a new Seaman plus Power Stone 3 and a second Gundam. And they'll fix that laser and the crazy loud fan.

Available for Christmas in 3010.
 
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.

I just don't like them at all. I haven't since like 2002, and that's for my own reasons. I would love to see them get taken down and have them stop gloating that they are the best.

Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special? They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods, from TV's to game systems to even headphones.

The PS2 was one hell of a successful system and won the day of the last gen. No reason to hate them there, and that is about the only thing that I could see that could easily correlate into that time frame. I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful, but people do anyways.

Uh-oh, off topic. Obviously, disregard if you want to.

Opinion. I don't like them for the way they treated me and a bunch of other people for Customer Service, so they can go fuck themselves and go bankrupt.

To each their own. The company is large though, and a handful of bad experiences shouldn't be used to define a company.

Regardless, bad customer service is about the last thing that should be used as an excuse to say "FUCK THE COMPANY, HACK THOSE BASTARDS TO HELL," which is the vibe I'm getting when I read your posts. I have a hard time believing that other people really have a reason for it though. A lot are just jumping on the bandwagon without a lot of prior knowledge or experience.

Like I said though; to each their own.

Thanks for explaining.
 
KingdomBlade said:
NahuelDS said:
KingdomBlade said:
Just fucking give them a break already, they're already facing significant problems.
You remind me... this
By no means am I a Sony fan. But people that say "THEY SHOULD GET HACKED AGAIN LOLOLOL" piss me off. It's just plain hypocritical. You criticize them for their bad security, then you say they should get hacked? Seriously, if you have to flame them, at least do so without saying random uninformed shit about them.
If they have bad security why is it hypocritical to want them to be hacked?
 
Nathan Drake said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Nathan Drake said:
kk guys, reality check time.

How much sense does it make to want Sony hacked more? Want what has been considered a reliable brand name for years destroyed over your petty wants and disappointments? Is somebody currently parading around as you placing you in millions of dollars worth of debt? Can you prove that the hacks have actually hurt you personally?

Answer all of those questions and think about how much of an ignorant fool you sound like and try again with the failure that is being spurted about. If anybody should be angry, it should be Sony at the dicks who say they should be hacked more.

I just don't like them at all. I haven't since like 2002, and that's for my own reasons. I would love to see them get taken down and have them stop gloating that they are the best.

Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special? They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods, from TV's to game systems to even headphones.

The PS2 was one hell of a successful system and won the day of the last gen. No reason to hate them there, and that is about the only thing that I could see that could easily correlate into that time frame. I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful, but people do anyways.

Uh-oh, off topic. Obviously, disregard if you want to.

Opinion. I don't like them for the way they treated me and a bunch of other people for Customer Service, so they can go fuck themselves and go bankrupt.

To each their own. The company is large though, and a handful of bad experiences shouldn't be used to define a company.

Regardless, bad customer service is about the last thing that should be used as an excuse to say "FUCK THE COMPANY, HACK THOSE BASTARDS TO HELL," which is the vibe I'm getting when I read your posts. I have a hard time believing that other people really have a reason for it though. A lot are just jumping on the bandwagon without a lot of prior knowledge or experience.

Like I said though; to each their own.

Thanks for explaining.

Uh, no it isn't, it should be the first thing. I buy a product, it doesn't work. I contact them, nothing gets resolved. Try again, they say there's nothing they can do because it's out of warranty and would cost money (even though it was brand new), nothing gets resolved. I buy a different product, defective after common use, nothing.


I refuse to support a company who can't even sell me a working product, or won't even fix the product that's broken. I think they deserve to go bankrupt and get out of the gaming business. They are poison to the gaming industry, just like Activision.
 
Magmorph said:
KingdomBlade said:
NahuelDS said:
KingdomBlade said:
Just fucking give them a break already, they're already facing significant problems.
You remind me... this
By no means am I a Sony fan. But people that say "THEY SHOULD GET HACKED AGAIN LOLOLOL" piss me off. It's just plain hypocritical. You criticize them for their bad security, then you say they should get hacked? Seriously, if you have to flame them, at least do so without saying random uninformed shit about them.
If they have bad security why is it hypocritical to want them to be hacked?

Except there is no proof their security was bad. Except for inside the PS3 and the PSN, no other security flaws have actually been proven. If anything, reports have shown otherwise and that Sony was up to date (as any respectable company would be). The hackers just know their way around.
 
Alright, why must one of the figure heads for Sony just spout complete bullshit like this. It's not only the tech department's fault for the lax security protocols, but also the company's arrogance in relying on hardware obscurity to protect. That's like saying and posting that there is a minefield across the street protetcing a bank, and a metal detector proves it wrong. Sure it works for a while, but someone with the tools and know how comes along and completely obliterates the fog.

You know, I hope Sony is forced to pull out of the next Console generation. Then, it will give the other video game companies a chance to grow and flourish. I also hope this whole fiasco brings greater desire to protect and insure customer details and develop online security protocols.
 
Nathan Drake said:
Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special?

They're evil and arrogant like no other company in the business.

Nathan Drake said:
They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods,

Disc Read Errors, YLOD, PSN security woes, PS3 fat overheating problems, laptop batteries that explode, PS2slim power cords recalled by the millions, etc, etc, etc

Nathan Drake said:
No reason to hate them...

Racist advertising
Anti religious advertising
$600 console
Wii Mote rip off
Faulty hardware
Completely arrogant
Lies and misinformation
Agressive fanbase
100 million people lose their personal information
etc, etc, etc

I can see many justified reasons for hating this company.

Nathan Drake said:
I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful

Well it's a good thing Sony isnt' successful. They lost 4.7 billion in 2009, and another 3.2 billion in 2011. Almost 8 billion lost on the playstation alone. And now Korean brands are eating their electronics division alive.

QUOTE(Nathan Drake @ May 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
A handful of bad experiences

>Implying its just a "handful"

They were sued in the US and Canada over PS2 DRE errors in a massive class action suit. And then there's that whole PSN debacle.

QUOTE(Nathan Drake @ May 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
Except there is no proof their security was bad.

Riiiiiight

100 million PSN users losing their personal data, including home address, billing address, home telephone number, email address and personal data collected by Sony themselves.

You're obviously here to spin the company's image. I honestly have to think you work for the company. No fanboy would be this persistent or loyal to a company that has crapped upon millions of loyal fans.

And of course this begs the question. Should anyone trust someone who speaks so fondly of a company that is dead against places like this?
 
jerome27 said:
Nathan Drake said:
Every gaming company gloats that they are the best. What makes Sony so special?

They're evil and arrogant like no other company in the business.

Nathan Drake said:
They have shown time and time again that they can make quality goods,

Disc Read Errors, YLOD, PSN security woes, PS3 fat overheating problems, laptop batteries that explode, PS2slim power cords recalled by the millions, etc, etc, etc

Nathan Drake said:
No reason to hate them...

Racist advertising
Anti religious advertising
$600 console
Wii Mote rip off
Faulty hardware
Completely arrogant
Lies and misinformation
Agressive fanbase
100 million people lose their personal information
etc, etc, etc

I can see many justified reasons for hating this company.

Nathan Drake said:
I would say that you can't hate a company for being successful

Well it's a good thing Sony isnt' successful. They lost 4.7 billion in 2009, and another 3.2 billion in 2011. Almost 8 billion lost on the playstation alone. And now Korean brands are eating their electronics division alive.

QUOTE(Nathan Drake @ May 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
A handful of bad experiences

>Implying its just a "handful"

They were sued in the US and Canada over PS2 DRE errors in a massive class action suit. And then there's that whole PSN debacle.

QUOTE(Nathan Drake @ May 25 2011, 09:57 PM)
Except there is no proof their security was bad.

Riiiiiight

100 million PSN users losing their personal data, including home address, billing address, home telephone number, email address and personal data collected by Sony themselves.

You're obviously here to spin the company's image. I honestly have to think you work for the company. No fanboy would be this persistent or loyal to a company that has crapped upon millions of loyal fans.

And of course this begs the question. Should anyone trust someone who speaks so fondly of a company that is dead against places like this?

I laughed a little about how selective that last quote was. I enjoyed how you left how the fact how I said the PSN security wasn't good. Selective reading ftw? amirite?

You are acting like Sony is the only company on the planet to have ever screwed up. Tons of companies are arrogant, have had to recall goods, have had many issues with goods, have ripped off others, etc. People just target Sony because they are big. What makes them worse than that smaller company that has screwed up in the same ways?

I also laughed at the sleeper agent thing, as you were so very obviously implying myself. Trolling and flaming must be imbedded in the way some of the people post here.

Just gonna say; Sony thinks that information may have been stolen. As of yet, nothing has actually come of that.
 
Obviously we all have our biases, but I personally think you are attacking Sony without any base. Why would a company that depends on customers not worry about the security of their informatio­n? Purdue Professor Dr. Eugene Spafford said that Sony knew that had vulnerabil­ities in their Apache servers. Google's cache from March 23 shows the server in question displaying the banner for 2.2.17 of Apache which is the most current secure version of Apache.

"I have no informatio­n about what protection­s they had in place, although some
news reports indicate that Sony was running software that was badly out of date, and had
been warned about that risk," said Spafford during the eCommerce conference that was held in regards to consumer informatio­n security. Places like CNN, MSNBC, and even the Huffington Post spread that rumor as fact when the facts are actually against you. The exact same thing happened regarding the "plain text" credit card informatio­n which was also false. To assume that this couldn't happen to anyone else is ignorant and constantly shoving down a company because of it, doesn't help anyone, including your credibilit­y. They had adequate security, both via client and server.

Sony is providing insurance up to a million dollars and a 12 month identity fraud protection gratis. That is more than any other company has ever given.

Stringer has a reason to be mad, mad at the hackers for attacking his company and customers and at the media for spinning the facts.


+10
 
Nathan Drake said:
I laughed a little about how selective that last quote was. I enjoyed how you left how the fact how I said the PSN security wasn't good. Selective reading ftw? amirite?

You are acting like Sony is the only company on the planet to have ever screwed up. Tons of companies are arrogant, have had to recall goods, have had many issues with goods, have ripped off others, etc. People just target Sony because they are big. What makes them worse than that smaller company that has screwed up in the same ways?

Everyone who disagrees with me is an evil troll, etc.

I laughed a little about how personally you are taking the attacks against sony. Its almost like you're getting paid to say this stuff. Because honestly, no fanboy could ever be this crazy.

Stringer has a reason to be mad, mad at the hackers for attacking his company and customers and at the media for spinning the facts.

Stringer is an arrogant asshole and so is anyone who supports him.

The public has a right to be mad that Sony didn't protect their best interests when they were using Sony products. I can't wait for the class action lawsuit. People are already saying it will be the biggest of its kind in history.
 
Nathan Drake said:
You are acting like Sony is the only company on the planet to have ever screwed up. Tons of companies are arrogant, have had to recall goods, have had many issues with goods, have ripped off others, etc. People just target Sony because they are big. What makes them worse than that smaller company that has screwed up in the same ways?
They are one of the only ones to screw up this badly across several areas that deal with online transactions and data transefers. I don't think ANY company has screwed up this bad on the internet. People don't target Sony because they're big but because they are full of shit, and they make tons of empty consumer promises. This is the very core of Sony. What makes them worse is that many times over a small company's user base trust[ed] Sony, and the royally fucked up.

@WiiBricker: Source please?
 
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