A friend of mine over at SFC has been working on a tool for inserting text into the game - not sure how he's getting on, but he'd certainly figured out how to dump & uncompress text from the ROM:
http://forums.shiningforcecentral.com/view...=39&t=16919
I know he has various projects on the go, but will give him a poke about this one when I get the chance
http://forums.shiningforcecentral.com/view...=39&t=16919
I know he has various projects on the go, but will give him a poke about this one when I get the chance
Moogie17 said:A friend of mine over at SFC has been working on a tool for inserting text into the game - not sure how he's getting on, but he'd certainly figured out how to dump & uncompress text from the ROM:
http://forums.shiningforcecentral.com/view...=39&t=16919
I know he has various projects on the go, but will give him a poke about this one when I get the chance
TY, Moogie!
Lazy727 said:It's really just sad what has happened to the Shining Force franchise, it's not even their fault but they are forgotten. (Thank you rare late Sega Saturn game and crappy ps2 spinoffs)
Second that. PS2 game were.....ACTION RPGS!!
Shining Force II was the first SRPG with world exploration. Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy focus on battle and completely ignore city exploring...that's so sad =/
I always wanted to play the PS2 Shining games. They didn't get released down here. Loved the series since I played Shining Force, even bought the GBA remake (which I hated and eventually sent to a friend in Aus). I want a Shining game to play on my DS.
DeltaBladeX said:
They're absolutely relevant. They only take the name of the series, as they've got NOTHING to do with the main series. They're are kinda Dungeon Crawling with Action. Their story is weak, and the only resemblance to anything related to old Shining Games is the vague mention of Dark Dragon or something of the sort.
Believe me, they're not relevant at all. Check footage on youtube, no big deal.
Was just wondering -- is ANYONE still interested in translating this game? Will there ever be an english translation, or is it just not worth doing?
Sorry if this qualifies as necrobumping, but I was just curious.
Also, since Nanashi no Game (a game that was deemed "near impossible to translate) is actually going to have an English translation now.. I thought it might be worth seeing if this game was possible too...
I remember people have tried it in the past and the VW font was tricky or something (and various other problems) but.. I'm not really sure about the technical details of it, so not sure how hard it would really be to get a project going :/
Sorry if this qualifies as necrobumping, but I was just curious.
I remember people have tried it in the past and the VW font was tricky or something (and various other problems) but.. I'm not really sure about the technical details of it, so not sure how hard it would really be to get a project going :/
Anyone knows about the translation project of "Shining Force II"?, there's a brazilian guy working on this project, look's very well, but I don't know what is happening at this time
Renato's SFII project is not a translation, he is making a tribute version of the game on the DS with all new graphics, extra story & features - all coded from scratch.
As for SF:Feather, I know loads of folks who would love to play a translation, and BoneIdol over at SFC made a bit of progress with pulling the ROM apart. Don't think he's had time to get much further with it though.
As for SF:Feather, I know loads of folks who would love to play a translation, and BoneIdol over at SFC made a bit of progress with pulling the ROM apart. Don't think he's had time to get much further with it though.
you are right, I just speak about a translation because he's working with a portuguese version, and it will be good for me, the US version should be released "I think". Of course the game is being made by the zero, I discovery this project because I bought a nintendo magazine"here in brazil" talking about it.
Congratulations for Renato(conterraneo)
Congratulations for Renato(conterraneo)
727 said:
- does not support ASCII (meaning : forced to use double byte encoding and "Space issue" can come)
- Font hack (not a surprise heh)
except from that, the game is fairly easy to translate...
StorMyu said:
Ah yeah, that was the stuff stopping people from doing it... also, something about a 'custom encoding table'? So a new table needs to be created, and something like Shift-JIS cant be used? Lol I have no clue about the technical stuff.
But anyway I thought someone had cracked the font problem, I remember seeing some screenshots.. Or maybe not?
Either way, until someone actually steps up and says they can do it, we've got nothing. xD
suruz said:Ah yeah, that was the stuff stopping people from doing it... also, something about a 'custom encoding table'? So a new table needs to be created, and something like Shift-JIS cant be used? Lol I have no clue about the technical stuff.
But anyway I thought someone had cracked the font problem, I remember seeing some screenshots.. Or maybe not?
Maybe my screenshots ?
I think I'll "at least" dump the scripts, everything else can be done while the translation is on going.
I haven't heard anything about anyone trying "more than 5min" on that game, but actually I'm working on it when I have the time.
It's not an announcement or something, I've lots of things to deal with "irl" so...
It's not an announcement or something, I've lots of things to deal with "irl" so...
Well this thread made me curious and I spended some time looking at this game too.
The graphics are not so complicated to find but from what i saw, no VWF for the big font.
I have found a second font but didn't check yet if it's VWF-able.
The text is in SJIS uncompressed and in some cases there is enough place to write english text but saddly it doesn't support one byte encoding.
I find it strange that somebody at Sega didn't think of VWF...maybe somebody good in ASM can find what happening because I saw a table in the ARM that look very suspicious to me. Sadly my tries ended in no change in the font
Here some samples of the graphics:
The graphics are not so complicated to find but from what i saw, no VWF for the big font.
I have found a second font but didn't check yet if it's VWF-able.
The text is in SJIS uncompressed and in some cases there is enough place to write english text but saddly it doesn't support one byte encoding.
I find it strange that somebody at Sega didn't think of VWF...maybe somebody good in ASM can find what happening because I saw a table in the ARM that look very suspicious to me. Sadly my tries ended in no change in the font
Here some samples of the graphics:
Well this thread made me curious and I spended some time looking at this game too.
The graphics are not so complicated to find but from what i saw, no VWF for the big font.
I have found a second font but didn't check yet if it's VWF-able.
The text is in SJIS uncompressed and in some cases there is enough place to write english text but saddly it doesn't support one byte encoding.
I find it strange that somebody at Sega didn't think of VWF...maybe somebody good in ASM can find what happening because I saw a table in the ARM that look very suspicious to me. Sadly my tries ended in no change in the font
Here some samples of the graphics:
You should have asked ^^
The font in the ARM is not the one used in the Script, anyway, it's just a small font used for some option and some other random stuff.
the real one is in the System.pac
Pleonex is helping me with the graphics already, and I've been coding a text editor since November but still not done yet (well technically ready but I'd like to improve it by adding more bytecode recognition.)
also I'll take care of the vwf once my laptop will be back (since that one sucked and it can't even launch an emulator correctly...)
also, some of the graphics:
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yall im torn... ive been hacking away at tales of phantasia GBA (the USA version) and have so many documents of reverse engineering i've done -
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I just found out that the EU version is better in literally every way, better sound quality, better lighting, and there's even a patch someone made to make the text look nicer
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Do I restart now using what i've learned on the EU version since it's a better overall experience? or do I continue with the US version since that is what ive been using, and if someone decides to play my hack, it would most likely be that version?
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@TwoSpikedHands, I'll preface this with the fact that I know nothing about the game, but, I think it depends on what your goals are. Are you trying to make a definitive version of the game? You may want to refocus your efforts on the EU version then. Or, are you trying to make a better US version? In which case, the only way to make a better US version is to keep on plugging away at that one -
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I'm not familiar with the technicalities of the differences between the two versions, but I'm wondering if at least some of those differences are things that you could port over to the US version in your patch without having to include copyrighted assets from the EU version
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TwoSpikedHands:
@Sicklyboy I am wanting to fully change the game and bend it to my will lol. I would like to eventually have the ability to add more characters, enemies, even have a completely different story if i wanted. I already have the ability to change the tilemaps in the US version, so I can basically make my own map and warp to it in game - so I'm pretty far into it!
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TwoSpikedHands:
I really would like to make a hack that I would enjoy playing, and maybe other people would too. swapping to the EU version would also mean my US friends could not legally play it
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I am definitely considering porting over some of the EU features without using the actual ROM itself, tbh that would probably be the best way to go about it... but i'm sad that the voice acting is so.... not good on the US version. May not be a way around that though
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The Real Jdbye:
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