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Release of the Mueller report is imminent, AG Barr has in-hand, judiciary committees being briefed

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Not even weird at all. This will be devastating to the Democratic Party if no collusion is found. People won’t have faith in mainstream media. They will see him a victim of false allegations on the Trump Russia deal without any proof to begin with. It’s not about him become of president on accident. Will they apologize if no evidence come out but they were pretending there was this mountain of evidence. Many people lives have been ruined from this investigation. And lots of money has been spent to fight this legally. This damaged a lot of things. And Trump will have to pardon a lot of people.

And so far evidence shows that Trump has been going against the wishes of Russia and Putin, showing he is not an agent of Putin. There are no more indictments from Muller, and none that connect Trump to Russia. If he had the evidence he would of done indictments by now. You have Noam Chomsky the world most renowned intellect saying that their is no evidence to suggest that Trump is a agent of Putin, so far evidence suggests the opposite. And this guy is basically the God Father of the left. Most evidence right now points in the opposite direction.

And Right now people are devastated that no indictments are made against Trump. And Trump team is celebrating that there is no indictments against them. This is what we know so far without knowing what’s in the Muller Report.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ort-filed-with-no-new-indictments-planned.amp
Ever considered the opposite? If all the witnesses, evidence and convictions DO point out to a narrative where Trump has done illegal acts, then the white house is compromised as well as a large part of the republican party. How do you think that'll hold up in terms of faith in their political parties?

If false allegations are a crime, who is really the culprit? The whole investigation could've happened well under the radar and away from the press, but where Mueller made barely any public statement, Trump twittered about it on a daily basis.
Oh, and...the allegations are stated on solid grounds. It would be a different thing if there was no evidence, but there are already quite some convictions. It's about a year too late to still call it a witch hunt.

And...I don't think you understand how evidence works. As investigators, it's THEIR task to search and come up with evidence of what they are investigating (which, again, is aimed at the people AROUND Trump. I know fox news makes it seem as if Mueller was doing bad at doing something else, but he has some very good results in his task at hand). Saying "there is evidence that he is innocent" is ridiculous. You can hardly prove something that didn't happen.

Trump being victorious is to be expected. That's just how he is: downplaying losses to give the impression of winning to his fan base. The North Korean summits were so successful that Kim Jong-Un left suddenly. The Mexican wall was so successful that the government shutdown was ended AND a shutdown was stuck in limbo. And those are just the most glaring examples. So please...don't pretend that the white house is somehow an objective source in this matter.
 
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I didn't realize it's already out
This is gold.
It’s not out yet. But c’mon it’s pretty much not much else to say. And Rachael Maddie was on the verge of crying. It’s realization that the narrative they were pushing is a lie.

They did start investigation in Hillary Clinton and Ukraine collusion. Finally after people have been calling for it for yrs.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/4491...ial-opens-investigation-alleged-ryan-saavedra

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Then why are people saying he's vindicated? I'm confused.
They say well the president can’t be indicted by Muller. Which is a ridiculous argument, because they could indict his aids, if Trump colluded then they would have indicted his aids. But 0 indictments.
 

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What counts as an "aid"? Because many people working directly for Trump have already been indicted and sentenced...
None have to do with Russia Collusion. Which is the main focus. If it wasn’t then Trumps team wouldn’t be celebrating right now.

And some of the indictments were for shady reasons. Trump is going to have to pardon a bunch of people going to jail over this.

Here’s a whistle blower from the NSA debunking some of the indictments. This is why I thought the investigation was ridiculous. Because whistle blowers from the inside were calling out this bullshit.

 

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What counts as an "aid"? Because many people working directly for Trump have already been indicted and sentenced...
Also a close friend of his, Roger Stone, for communicating with both Wikileaks and Russian intelligence.

And some of the indictments were for shady reasons.
Stop spreading bullshit in this thread please. Mueller's team hasn't indicted anyone without first gathering mountains of evidence against them.
 
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Also a close friend of his, Roger Stone, for communicating with both Wikileaks and Russian intelligence.


Stop spreading bullshit in this thread please. Mueller's team hasn't indicted anyone without first gathering mountains of evidence against them.
Okay whatever you say buddy. I’m sure you don’t even know what NSA guy is talking about.
 

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Look, there is propaganda coming from all sides. You may favor the right, or conservatives, or Republicans. You may hate Hillary. Ok fine, that's cool. But you are doing nobody a favor by trying to support or defend the corrupt group of people in power currently. Trump and many of his associates have been shown, among cavernous troves of evidence, to be nothing more than self-serving, lying, greedy, power-grabbing anti-intellectuals who are serving no one's interests except their own. They have committed many crimes, and some of them have been exposed by Mueller's investigations. Hey, maybe there isn't any collusion. But there sure as hell were attempts to profit from positions of high power through illegal and/or traitorous means. If you truly want "your side" to be heard and respected, you would be trying your damnedest to remove this fool and his administration, lest they further taint the principles you hold dear with lies and deceit.
 
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Look, there is propaganda coming from all sides. You may favor the right, or conservatives, or Republicans. You may hate Hillary. Ok fine, that's cool. But you are doing nobody a favor by trying to support or defend the corrupt group of people in power currently. Trump and many of his associates have been shown, among cavernous troves of evidence, to be nothing more than self-serving, lying, greedy, power-grabbing anti-intellectuals who are serving no one's interests except their own. They have committed many crimes, and some of them have been exposed by Mueller's investigations. Hey, maybe there isn't any collusion. But there sure as hell were attempts to profit from positions of high power through illegal and/or traitorous means. If you truly want "your side" to be heard and respected, you would be trying your damnedest to remove this fool and his administration, lest they further taint the principles you hold dear with lies and deceit.
I do think Trump is perfect. And I don’t want him to win again. But this has damaged any chance of Trump not winning 2020. If they never pushed this Russia Gate to begin with then the other canidates would have had a chance to win.

But they shot themselves in the foot by pushing this conspiracy theory. No one is going to believe the media now, even when Trump actually does something bad.
 

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But they shot themselves in the foot by pushing this conspiracy theory. No one is going to believe the media now, even when Trump actually does something bad.
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point? Mueller is not the media, and we're about to see a 50+ page report detailing his investigation and evidence. Conspiracy theories don't work like that.
 
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Look, there is propaganda coming from all sides. You may favor the right, or conservatives, or Republicans. You may hate Hillary. Ok fine, that's cool. But you are doing nobody a favor by trying to support or defend the corrupt group of people in power currently. Trump and many of his associates have been shown, among cavernous troves of evidence, to be nothing more than self-serving, lying, greedy, power-grabbing anti-intellectuals who are serving no one's interests except their own. They have committed many crimes, and some of them have been exposed by Mueller's investigations. Hey, maybe there isn't any collusion. But there sure as hell were attempts to profit from positions of high power through illegal and/or traitorous means. If you truly want "your side" to be heard and respected, you would be trying your damnedest to remove this fool and his administration, lest they further taint the principles you hold dear with lies and deceit.

Thank you. Seeing a liberal unironically saying these things as if it doesn't apply at least equally to the leadership of their side/party is probably the best bit of humor I'll see all week.
 

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Looks like the report won't be outside of the hands of the AG/deputy AG until tomorrow:

NYTimes said:
WASHINGTON — Attorney General William P. Barr and his team on Saturday pored over the highly anticipated report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, a senior Justice Department official said, preparing to deliver the investigation’s “principal conclusions” to jittery lawmakers and President Trump as soon as Sunday.

Mr. Barr and Rod J. Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general who appointed Mr. Mueller and oversaw much of his work, were cloistered inside the Justice Department debating how to present the findings. Mr. Mueller was not participating in the process, the official said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/23/us/politics/mueller-report-russia-inquiry.html

As before, any "celebrating" from either side up until then is simply speculative and should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
 

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Thank you. Seeing a liberal unironically saying these things as if it doesn't apply at least equally to the leadership of their side/party is probably the best bit of humor I'll see all week.
Not liberal. I'm registered independent. Also, the "both sides are equal" argument is asinine and tribal. Finally, I'm not attacking any "side" or party. Trump and his administration are objectively bad and should be removed from power. It's not a bipartisan issue, this fucks over the whole country. Wake up, this isn't some petty "but your side" game where we fling shit at each other, Trump is OBJECTIVELY BAD. He lies, insults, rants, uses social media irresponsibly, is terrible at official meetings with other people of power. He's a fucking embarrassment to the entire goddamn country, liberals conservative or what the fuck ever you call yourself. Step outside your bubble and take in the swathes of direct, primary evidence of terrible conduct demonstrated by this fool. Nobody's perfect, especially not this pathetic excuse of a representative of 100's of MILLIONS of people.
 
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