Hacking Regarding Fake Acekard 2i issue

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sfg said:
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Then why are people who have purchased these from you unable to use them on DSi's?

Are you sure ALL had this problem? Can't they just be broken? Acekard is known for shoddy products, after all.

I do wonder how come Acekard suddenly became reputable and worthy of trust. Remember: AKAIO (the only thing that gave this cart any value) is not made by Acekard.

They are freaking flash cart developers. Pretty much all are sketchy and release dozens of versions of their carts. Who's to say this supposedly fake Acekards are not actually a bad batch made by Acekard themselves and now they're trying to get out of it?

But let's believe Acekard. There's sure more reasons to believe them than RHS.
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Not all, this was teh thread I was refering to http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=204885 The person who posted above is the first person on here to have a newly shipped actel working with the Dsi 1.4.

No, I don't trust Acekard. I don't trust RHS either, Not DX, not FP...

Let's be honest, the whole flashcart business isn't the most honest business to be in.
 
sfg said:
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Then why are people who have purchased these from you unable to use them on DSi's?

Are you sure ALL had this problem? Can't they just be broken? Acekard is known for shoddy products, after all.

I do wonder how come Acekard suddenly became reputable and worthy of trust. Remember: AKAIO (the only thing that gave this cart any value) is not made by Acekard.

They are freaking flash cart developers. Pretty much all are sketchy and release dozens of versions of their carts. Who's to say this supposedly fake Acekards are not actually a bad batch made by Acekard themselves and now they're trying to get out of it?

But let's believe Acekard. There's sure more reasons to believe them than RHS.
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We do have few complains about the defective AK2i (Actel version). However, as I said before, the defective rate is about 5%.

tk_saturn just insisted that all the Actel ones can not run on DSi 1.4 and does not have HW of 80. I have no idea where he got the impression that all of them don't work.

As we explained, we heard it from our supplier who is supposed to have better relationship with Acekard. We have been trying to contact Acekard and our supplier has been trying to do the same thing. If they care about their products, if they care about their customers, why can they come out to make things clear? We want the truth from them too. We can then go after our supplier if our supplier lied to us.

So, what I am saying is before Acekard comes out to make a official statement, please do not attack us for lying. You can believe the Actel one is fake, that's fine. We are replacing them, we are doing the damage control. We do have customers have no issues with them and are happy with them like hsace.
 
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Let's be honest, the whole flashcart business isn't the most honest business to be in.

Exactly what I'm saying.

And taking sides with a company known for shoddy products and dubious business deals (selling their designs to be OEMed for example) seems wrong.

At least RHS is a reputable seller and I believe they couldn't have known if what they were selling are really fakes. Again, there are many versions of Acekards, kinda hard to keep track of them.
 
realhotstuff said:
So, what I am saying is before Acekard comes out to make a official statement, please do not attack us for lying. You can believe the Actel one is fake, that's fine. We are replacing them, we are doing the damage control. We do have customers have no issues with them and are happy with them like hsace.

They have come out and made an official statement. It's on their website that these cards are fake.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=206088

They are Acekard, there can only be one Team Acekard. If there has been a split, then those who split aren't Team Acekard anymore.

Once Normatt contacts them, i'm sure we will know either way.
 
tk_saturn said:
sfg said:
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Then why are people who have purchased these from you unable to use them on DSi's?

Are you sure ALL had this problem? Can't they just be broken? Acekard is known for shoddy products, after all.

I do wonder how come Acekard suddenly became reputable and worthy of trust. Remember: AKAIO (the only thing that gave this cart any value) is not made by Acekard.

They are freaking flash cart developers. Pretty much all are sketchy and release dozens of versions of their carts. Who's to say this supposedly fake Acekards are not actually a bad batch made by Acekard themselves and now they're trying to get out of it?

But let's believe Acekard. There's sure more reasons to believe them than RHS.
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Not all, this was teh thread I was refering to http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=204885 The person who posted above is the first person on here to have a newly shipped actel working with the Dsi 1.4.

No, I don't trust Acekard. I don't trust RHS either, Not DX, not FP...

Let's be honest, the whole flashcart business isn't the most honest business to be in.

That's really funny. Why are you here posting? You should be here trashing everyone for using any flashcart. You should be cursing GBAtemp for having a forum here to provide all information about flashcarts.

Do you own a flashcart? You should be shame of yourself if you own one.
 
hsace said:
That's really funny. Why are you here posting? You should be here trashing everyone for using any flashcart. You should be cursing GBAtemp for having a forum here to provide all information about flashcarts.

Do you own a flashcart? You should be shame of yourself if you own one.

Since when have I been cursing GBAtemp?

If you think the whole cart scene is honest, then you are misguided. Let's be honest, we all have HDD's full of roms. Do I give a shit? no.

If I receive a fake AK2i, then I give a shit especially as I have another 6 on order and I really don't want no shitty Actel cart.
 
tk_saturn said:
realhotstuff said:
So, what I am saying is before Acekard comes out to make a official statement, please do not attack us for lying. You can believe the Actel one is fake, that's fine. We are replacing them, we are doing the damage control. We do have customers have no issues with them and are happy with them like hsace.

They have come out and made an official statement. It's on their website that these cards are fake.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=206088

They are Acekard, there can only be one Team Acekard. If there has been a split, then those who split aren't Team Acekard anymore.

Once Normatt contacts them, i'm sure we will know either way.

What I meant was for Acekard to come out to state that what their supplier said was not true, that their team did not split and someone else is using their old design to make fake AK2i.

You missed the sentence they said in the same page you pointed to.

'Here is a easy way to distinguish real one and clone one, using the latest official firmware or AKAIO. The clone one will be blocked.'.

The Actel one runs on latest AKAIO. Their statement contradicts each other.
 
tk_saturn said:
hsace said:
That's really funny. Why are you here posting? You should be here trashing everyone for using any flashcart. You should be cursing GBAtemp for having a forum here to provide all information about flashcarts.

Do you own a flashcart? You should be shame of yourself if you own one.

Since when have I been cursing GBAtemp?

If you think the whole cart scene is honest, then you are misguided. Let's be honest, we all have HDD's full of roms. Do I give a shit? no.

If I receive a fake AK2i, then I give a shit especially as I have another 6 on order and I really don't want no shitty Actel cart.

OMG, can you read? I said 'You should be cursing GBAtemp for having a forum here to provide all information about flashcarts.'. You think the whol flashcarts business is not honest, why are you here? Trying to convince people here that we re not honest? Did you receive Actel AK2i from them? Did they not reponding to you if you had that?

You own flahcarts and contine to order them and you are here to say things like that. Unbelieable! You are like someone who is saying stealing is wrong but you have no problem buying stolen goods. Worst of all, you complained about the goods.
 
realhotstuff said:
You missed the sentence they said in the same page you pointed to.

'Here is a easy way to distinguish real one and clone one, using the latest official firmware or AKAIO. The clone one will be blocked.'.

The Actel one runs on latest AKAIO. Their statement contradicts each other.

I'm fully aware of that. But in the end it doesn't matter, most people don't want these Actel carts. Hence the reason you've scrambled to get your hands on non-Actel carts.

The 2.1 savegame problem is a much much bigger issue.
 
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The 2.1 savegame problem is a much much bigger issue.

By the way, is that due to clones too?

Will we see a new announcement for Acekard that the 2.1 has also been cloned?

QUOTEmost people don't want these Actel carts.

Yes, because Acekard said they're fakes.

Now everybody with an Actel chip, whether new or old, will cry that they have clones although they were perfectly happy with them before as they were working just as the "real" ones.
 
sfg said:
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The 2.1 savegame problem is a much much bigger issue.

By the way, is that due to clones too?

Will we see a new announcement for Acekard that the 2.1 has also been cloned?

No, that has nothing to do with it. They simply had a bad batch.

We are not Acekard, we do not know if they will make any announcement. They may come out and say those are fakes too. So far as I know, they are authentic. But again, without anything from Acekard, anyone can say they are fake since we can't prove they are real.
 
realhotstuff said:
sfg said:
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The 2.1 savegame problem is a much much bigger issue.

By the way, is that due to clones too?

Will we see a new announcement for Acekard that the 2.1 has also been cloned?

No, that has nothing to do with it. They simply had a bad batch.

I know, just being sarcastic about the whole "let's believe everything Acekard says" thing.
 
realhotstuff said:
No, that has nothing to do with it. They simply had a bad batch.

We are not Acekard, we do not know if they will make any announcement. They may come out and say those are fakes too. So far as I know, they are authentic. But again, without anything from Acekard, anyone can say they are fake since we can't prove they are real.

Makes little difference. I imagine those who brought one of these bad 2.1's are feeling very burned and will have nothing to with Acekard again.

It's one of the reasons I want non-actels, who know's if future firmware/ loader updates will support these recently shipping actels.

What about when DSi firmware 1.5 ships? will Acekard put out a firmware update which will update these "80" cards? We allready know some don't update with the current 1.4 firmware fix which is floating around. People say 1.5 is just around the corner...
 
tk_saturn, you should try NOT selectively reading, he already said they DO WORK on DSi FW 1.4, why the fuck do you keep saying they don't?
 
ZeWarrior said:
tk_saturn, you should try NOT selectively reading, he already said they DO WORK on DSi FW 1.4, why the fuck do you keep saying they don't?

Because people haven't got them to work, that's why. The Acekard 1.4 firmware fix clearly states the 80 carts cannot be updated. So if you were going to buy an Acekard 2i, would you want an 80? Acekard have already claimed they are fakes, so they have no interest in supporting them.

TTHTT brought theirs from RHS, and to be fair they have replaced it. But that doesn't sidestep the fact that these 80 cards should be avoided.

TTHTT said:
Hey, really sorry if there are a hundred threads like this but the board wasn't letting me search. I got my Acekard 2i recently in the mail, and knowing that I already updated my DSi to 1.4, I realized I'd have to use another DS to update the card. So the only other DS I have is my old fat DS. I read through the instructions in the main topic about this and tried doing exactly what it said.

First I tried using the update file with the "L" at the end (ak2ifw_update_14_DSL.nds), and it boots up to saying "Before update, please eject the cardand insert it again. Press B to continue."
Ok, so I did exactly that. Nothing ever happened. I tried doing it without ejecting the card; nothing happened. I tried ejecting the card, taking out my MicroSD, then putting it back in, and that didn't do anything either.

So then I tried the next file, the one that ends in "i" (ak2ifw_update_14_DSi.nds). When I use that one, I get:
AK2i FIRMWARE UPDATE(14)
CHIP ID:0fc2 HW:8080
This catridge can't be updated.

Am I doing something wrong? Can you not update with this old of a DS? Do I have a fake card?

Halp.

and

QUOTE(OinkDS @ Jan 27 2010, 05:58 PM)
Experiencing same issue as TTHTT. Acekard 2i from Gamersection

HW:8080
Using "ak2ifw_update_14_DSL.nds" on a DSLite
"This catridge can't be updated" (Spelling!)

Following Dark^'^Knight's advice
using "r4ifw_update_14_DSi.nds" on a DSLite
"This catridge can't be updated" (Spelling!)

I think 8080 is a new batch of fake/clone Acekard 2i. Anything else to try?

Thanks in advance
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hooray! My AK2i is REAL! XD

I was really confused, but this cleared it all up, thanks =D



and does anyone's microSD slot take a while for the spring to work?
I thought mine was a fake, but then i read somewhere that the new version isn't spring loaded, then mine just started working..
 
obito said:
and does anyone's microSD slot take a while for the spring to work?
I thought mine was a fake, but then i read somewhere that the new version isn't spring loaded, then mine just started working..

No, but my second one had the spring slot pushed in. i.e you can remove the card by pulling it out like on a non-spring slot instead of depressing it. When you then put the card back in, you wouldn't know it was a spring slot. When I first checked it I assume it was non sprong loaded. So yours could have been in that state, and hence nothing wrong with it.

Either way, I don't trust the lifespan on these spring slots.
 
sfg said:
Now everybody with an Actel chip, whether new or old, will cry that they have clones although they were perfectly happy with them before as they were working just as the "real" ones.

You're missing a very simple point:

Actel card with HWID 44 = REAL
Actel card with HWID 80 = FAKE


All Actel cards are not the same. If you think they are, you are being confused by bad logic.
 
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All Actel cards are not the same.

For real? How about you tell that to people who cry that ACTEL=fake without bothering to check anything else?

QUOTEActel card with HWID 80 = FAKE

Again, because Acekard said so. Acekard who also said these carts don't support AKAIO and yet they do.
 
sfg said:
Again, because Acekard said so. Acekard who also said these carts don't support AKAIO and yet they do.

Remember AKAIO got cracked. What's stopping Rudolph from telling people how to get AKAIO to run on clone carts?

We know Smiths/ Normatt are playing with a new version of AKAIO. If they decide to release it I can't see them releasing it without new protection to stick it to Rudolph. We know just how much Normatt hates R4's, I can't see them releasing if it's going to end up on R4 clones.

No one is saying the trust Acekard on the matter, but it's clear this new run of Actel's are different from the original.
 
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