Yep I stopped updating that thread. To many R4 clones kept popping up and I didn't know which one was which anymore. Other R4 companies just changed there products name a lot and each of there product had a different firmware. I remember I saw some R4 clone website that had 6 different R4s under its name: R4 SDHC, R4i SDHC, R4i SDHC 1.4, R4i SDHC 1.4.1, R4 Christmas edition red, and another edition that was blue...