Hacking PS3 Homebrew/Software List

[Rydian]

PS3 Homebrew/Software List

Spoiler: Preamble

Q - "Isn't anything compiled with the leaked SDK illegal because it includes Sony's IP?"

A compiled program is binary, it's bytecode. Sony cannot hold a copyright on the executable format for their system, because there's laws allowing for interoperability from other vendors.

Sony and other companies are normally able to lock their system into only running programs from them because it'll only run signed code, and they refuse to sign code for anybody else... however when something else is made for a system (such as the Gameshark/AR accessories), Sony (or Nintendo, or Sega) has no legal reason to go after them. The unlicensed accessories/code continue to operate and even be sold in stores such as Wal*Mart because they are legally allowed interoperability.

Flash carts and modchips and such are deemed illegal because they are or can be used for piracy, nothing to do with interoperability.

Some PS3 homebrew needs a jailbreak device/method that's been updated with PEEK/POKE, generally called version 1.1.​

• PS3 Homebrew
  • Emulators
    • Snes9x Square/Eisz Build 4
      "Very early port of snes9x to PS3 LV2 OS."
      
    • Sega Saturn Emulator - Yabause v0.1
      "It’s Yabause - the SEGA Saturn emulator - ported to the PS3."
  • Backup-Related
    • NZHawk’s Awesome MountPoint Manager v1.0
      "This Awsome MountPoint Manager is pretty much like the existing backup manager, with one major difference! You can choose any folder on any device on you PS3 to use as the mounted disk."
      
    • USB Firmware Loader
      "Load [customized] PS3 firmware files off a USB stick in a few simple steps"
      
    • Comgenie’s Awesome Filemanager!
      "Allows you to copy/paste from any devices connected to the PS3."
• PC Software

• • PS3 Game Ripper
    "Are you trying to slim down your ps3 games to fit on a DVD-R or just to save some space on your hard drives?"
    
  • Trophy Unlocker
    "An application that unlocks trophies instantly."
    
  • PS3 Registry Editor
    "The registry contains all sorts of interesting options that you can switch on or off or manipulate in some way."
    
  • PS3 System File Editor v0.80
    "Allows you to view, edit, and save PARAM.SFO files."
    
  • Debug PKG Viewer
    "Browse the contents of sony debug .pkg files."

 

[hundshamer]

Just a suggestion for a couple more HB's out there. Comgenie's awsome file manager, and FTP server are both good homebrew programs for the PS3.

 

[Rydian]

DO NOT SAY IT IS ILLEGAL WITHOUT ANY PROOF!

"PROOF" WOULD CONSIST OF THE CODE IN QUESTION AND PROOF OF SONY'S COPYRIGHT OVER IT! THE PROGRAMS IN QUESTION ARE AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST POST, ALONG WITH TOOLS TO LOOK INSIDE! IF YOU SAY THE PROGRAMS ARE ILLEGAL YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME PROOF WITH IT!

"PROOF" WOULD CONSIST OF THE CODE IN QUESTION AND PROOF OF SONY'S COPYRIGHT OVER IT! THE PROGRAMS IN QUESTION ARE AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST POST, ALONG WITH TOOLS TO LOOK INSIDE! IF YOU SAY THE PROGRAMS ARE ILLEGAL YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME PROOF WITH IT!

"PROOF" WOULD CONSIST OF THE CODE IN QUESTION AND PROOF OF SONY'S COPYRIGHT OVER IT! THE PROGRAMS IN QUESTION ARE AVAILABLE IN THE FIRST POST, ALONG WITH TOOLS TO LOOK INSIDE! IF YOU SAY THE PROGRAMS ARE ILLEGAL YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME PROOF WITH IT!

Q - Wow Rydian, do you really need to go to such lengths to get your point across?
A - Yes. Just read this thread to see.

 

[SifJar]

Shouldn't Comgenie's File Manager be under PS3 software rather than PC software? I was under the impression it ran on the PS3.

 

[Cyan]

thanks for the update

I would also suggest to make a homebrew/Applications for common softwares not related to hacking.
Comgenie's File manager and FTP servers would go to that category. they are not backup related only, but more of a general use (like Wiixplorer and FTPii for the Wii).

 

[Rydian]

This is likely to be recategorized as more stuff comes out. The PS3 may turn out to be a game-centered kind of thing like the wii, or it may turn into a PC replacement thing again, in which case I think the entire forum might be moved/restructured.

 

[Cyan]

even if the forum is restructured for the PS3, it would be great to have a single place with all the info (like Wiibrew did).
a main Post giving the links to all the other useful posts/site will always be helpful.


PS : I see it's always the same members which take initiatives to help other users, whatever console it is ! (and even if we don't have a PS3)

 

[KiiWii]

nullDC is also being ported but i dont know if there is link available yet..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YCA9N_OVxo

 

[connorroy]

Hope someone ports vlc to ps3

 

[bpear96]

What is the cheapest method of running psgroove?

 

[MakiManPR]

this thread should be sticky
thx
waiting for 360 emu

 

[Zetta_x]

This is a great thread, nice to see everything in once post!

 

[moosh01]

this thread should be sticky
thx
waiting for 360 emu

Ha that's funny!

 

[Rydian]

Nobody else that has a PS3 was making one, so I figured I might as well. People are swarming all over this so it's easy to pick up and sort through the information anyways.

Didn't add the nullDC port because I couldn't find a download either.

An mplayer port seems more likely than a vlc port.

The cheapest method right now is a premade updated 1.1 jailbreak USB stick.

 

[DeltaBurnt]

I'm fairly certain homebrew made with Sony's SDK is illegal because even if it isn't binary after it's compiled it still includes algorithms and functions made by Sony's SDK.

Though really it could go either way, if Sony took it to court a judge might have a hard time figuring out what's legal and what's not.

 

[Rydian]

So if you were to take the compiled binary an convert it directly to an integer, the number would be illegal?

Like this image that technically contains the psgroove payload.
http://rydian.deviantart.com/art/Psgroove-Payload-178342738

There's boundaries when it comes to copyright stuff. A compiled binary is no longer the original source code. I will believe that a compiled program from the SDK is illegal when it is proven to be illegal, I will not accept half-assed theories.

I will only accept proof.

 

[DeltaBurnt]

So if you were to take the compiled binary an convert it directly to an integer, the number would be illegal?

Like this image that technically contains the psgroove payload.
http://rydian.deviantart.com/art/Psgroove-Payload-178342738

There's boundaries when it comes to copyright stuff. A compiled binary is no longer the original source code. I will believe that a compiled program from the SDK is illegal when it is proven to be illegal, I will not accept half-assed theories.

I will only accept proof.

It's not a half-assed theory, to get the end result of binary you must use copyrighted functions.

Using those would be like me using a pirated function for a website, it's illegal because I don't have the license to use it. Just as if I reverse engineered a program to get a complex function and used it in my program, I wouldn't be in good legal standing.

Just because I don't have definite proof that drawing a smilie face on the Mona Lisa and calling it all my work is illegal doesn't mean it's a half-assed theory.

Plus you have no proof that it isn't illegal. Oh and most people around the internet are in agreeance that it is illegal to use.

 

[ThatDudeWithTheFood]

Now when this is stickied we will have a complete guide for Ps3 Homebrew

 

[Rydian]

Holy shit, I never thought I'd be schooling YOU.
You're tossing out more logical fallacies than most OS fanboys!

Plus you have no proof that it isn't illegal."Argumentum ad ignorantiam"

That's not how shit works!

Alfred - "I think you killed that dog."
Barney - "I didn't kill it."

Now, there's two ways to prove it. Either prove that it did happen (meaning show facts), or prove that it didn't happen (show a LACK of facts).

Option A - Alfred shows a video of Barney killing the dog.
Option B - Barney shows a video recording of his entire life, and the video does not show him killing the dog. Meanwhile, half the people involved die of old age.

Which makes more sense?

Option A.

If you SAY that something (is true / exists), you must PROVE that it (is true / exists).

Do people go to court with only circumstantial evidence of a murder?

No, they GET SOME FUCKING PROOF.

QUOTE(DeltaBurnt @ Sep 28 2010, 09:08 PM) Oh and most people around the internet are in agreeance that it is illegal to use.

"Argumentum ad numerum"
back in 1560 most people thought the world was flat.




If what you say is true, then show me proof!
You're saying the executable contains copywritten code.
THIS GUIDE LINKS TO THE EXECUTABLES!
Go into them AND FIND ME THE COPYWRITTEN CODE, OR FUCKING DROP IT.

I'm tired of this BASELESS ARGUEMENT WITH NO PROOF in every goddamn PS3 development thread!

 

[DeltaBurnt]

*snip*

You do realize that in 1560 if you said the world wasn't flat people would laugh at you if you didn't have proof. Anyways, the same rules apply here, you're the one "rocking the boat" meaning you need the proof here. Not me. If I walk into a room and say "FUCKING DUMBASS, THIS IS ALL WRONG. 2+2=5! What do you mean I need proof!? YOU'RE THE ONE SAYING IT ISN'T TRUE, YOU NEED THE PROOF!" yah that won't work. And it's a very bad misconception to think that anything that's commonly accepted is wrong, just because we all thought the world was flat doesn't mean that things most people believe today will be false as well.

Also you don't need to be able to find the all the planning of a robbery to convict someone for robbery, you just need to find them in the act. If Sony knows that they used their SDK to make a program without permission and redistributed they could most likely sue them for it. They don't need to go dissecting the binary for proof to persecute them.

Oh and thanks for focusing on the lowest points of my argument, that proves you're truly just grasping at straws.

One last thing, if you can't respond to this argument in at-least a non hugely aggressive way then I'm just going to quite replying, I'm not going to go through reading a size 6 post with shit tons of a capitals. I know how to read, just type how you normally would and you'll get the point across just as effectively if not better.