This is Binding of Isaac we're talking about, a game which hasn't even been ESRB rated, a game which probably won't be released on the PSN/XBLA too.The thing is that this is a downloadable title and not a retail one, so the chances of this game getting in the wrong hands are pretty big.
I don't think that Nintendo want to handle more ridiculous lawsuits involving their name.
I mean, if they sell games like these to under aged boys/girls at the store it's ultimately the store's fault and not Nintendo's .
No! That doesnt make sense at all. Thats like saying some kid finding porn on a computer and sueing the computer company for making a computer that can access those websites. Thats just stupid. Its just nintendo being over protective again, when they dont need to be and I find it kinda disgusting they even stop people releasing games. Customers should be disappointed too. Its not like we're looking forward to anything on the e-shop in particular anyway, and because of this, its no wonder we dont hear of anything else.
I do understand its nintendo's choice at the end of the day, but you dont hear of XBLA/PSN doing it, and notice something? People use them way more than they do for the eshop. Nintendo just need to learn to let people do their own things and not be concerned. Leave the people alone who dont want to play it, and give people the choice to play something they're interested in.
I was hoping nintendo would be evolving this way, but now, seeing this just makes me lose further hope for their digital future. Wii U for that matter too, I bet that'll hardly have anything, cause nintendo will block it all.
I love nintendo for their uniqueness and all, but please, just let people do their own things nintendo. Its a bad sign I've downloaded more things on vitas PSN store in a week (All vita stuff btw) than I have from the eshop (3DS/VC/Ambassador stuff included) for nearly a full year. Nintendo should be asking themselves why is that? Just get support nintendo, you know you need it. Pushing people away wont help
And no, the computer company wouldn't get the blame because companies like Microsoft or Apple doesn't need to approve everything that's on the internet.
If the kid purposely did it, the parent wouldn't be able to file a lawsuit since it was the kid's fault, ok, so let's say that it was an unknown link on a page and the kid clicked it, if the parent was stupid enough to sue the computer company, the computer company would put the blame on the website or the person who posted the link.
That's not how things work with gaming hardware, Nintendo always have to put their seal of approval on things, and if Nintendo were to allow an offensive game on the eShop which many 3DS owners has access to, Nintendo would get in a tight spot sooner or later.
It's not like Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have done the same thing, they've censored religious content too.
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Little Big Planet was delayed because the background music was citing lines from the quran.Have you got any example of sony/microsoft doing this? Nintendo are literally the only people I know who actually forbid games being on their store (or at least cases of them doing so is more reported on.) Of course they have a right, but its just illogical... It doesnt take a genius to see the e-shop has literally nothing to look forward to on it. And no, nintendo dont put their seal of approval on anything. They just provide a store where developers can post games. Only way nintendo would put a seal of approval on something is if they published a game. Maybe nintendo see the e-shop more as being THEIR shop and other people MAY BE WELCOME.
I understand what you're saying about MS not having a duty to approve everything on the internet, since no one really owns it and to cause nintendo have total control over their store, but still, they're the only ones that do it. (Unless you can find me a case where XBLA/PSN have done it) Heck, I bet even the app store would sell it if they wanted it on it.
I bet binding of isaac would be allowed on PSN/XBLA. Its just a game, seriously... Dantes inferno was released on 360/PS3, and that had questionable religious content where you kill babies, binding of issac is 2D and doesnt really have story, its probably lesser than dantes inferno actually.
So no, I still blame nintendo for being over protective. I really want to believe them when they say they're trying to include hardcore/casual gamers, but they're probably the ones that are holding it back. The 3rd parties are the only ones really doing anything to help that. By nintendo pushing this game away just makes me lose hope in what they say about these things... I hope nintendo realise people arent liking the family name much anymore. Sure, everybody bought a wii, but after a few months,maybe a year, most of them moved onto a 360/PS3, cause there was simply nothing in the Wii's library they wanted to play. People dont tend to make the same mistake twice, so I hope they heed these words and evolve past that image, and when they say everyone, they should mean EVERYONE.
Little Big Planet was delayed because the background music was citing lines from the quran.Have you got any example of sony/microsoft doing this? Nintendo are literally the only people I know who actually forbid games being on their store (or at least cases of them doing so is more reported on.) Of course they have a right, but its just illogical... It doesnt take a genius to see the e-shop has literally nothing to look forward to on it. And no, nintendo dont put their seal of approval on anything. They just provide a store where developers can post games. Only way nintendo would put a seal of approval on something is if they published a game. Maybe nintendo see the e-shop more as being THEIR shop and other people MAY BE WELCOME.
I understand what you're saying about MS not having a duty to approve everything on the internet, since no one really owns it and to cause nintendo have total control over their store, but still, they're the only ones that do it. (Unless you can find me a case where XBLA/PSN have done it) Heck, I bet even the app store would sell it if they wanted it on it.
I bet binding of isaac would be allowed on PSN/XBLA. Its just a game, seriously... Dantes inferno was released on 360/PS3, and that had questionable religious content where you kill babies, binding of issac is 2D and doesnt really have story, its probably lesser than dantes inferno actually.
So no, I still blame nintendo for being over protective. I really want to believe them when they say they're trying to include hardcore/casual gamers, but they're probably the ones that are holding it back. The 3rd parties are the only ones really doing anything to help that. By nintendo pushing this game away just makes me lose hope in what they say about these things... I hope nintendo realise people arent liking the family name much anymore. Sure, everybody bought a wii, but after a few months,maybe a year, most of them moved onto a 360/PS3, cause there was simply nothing in the Wii's library they wanted to play. People dont tend to make the same mistake twice, so I hope they heed these words and evolve past that image, and when they say everyone, they should mean EVERYONE.
My point was that Nintendo doesn't have a problem with having violent retail games on their console since many violent games have been released for their platforms, but having those games up for download would be a risky move.
Shin Megami Tensei games are completely different, they don't make fun of anything in the bible they just darken a bit of the stuff, myths, demons and all that are normal in games, nothing wrong with it, there's a demon called Lucifer, sure, but he's one of the strongest demons and they depict him with wings, charismatic and noble, which is in accordance with how he was before defying God.Am I the only one who finds the 'reason' ludicrous?
I mean we just got Devil survivor 2! It jammed packed with all these religious and myth based demons, and yadda yadda.
Oh yeah it's also rated effin 'T' for Teen... not to mention this is number 2 in the series. >.>
Changed, the same way Zelda OoT was, remember how that lawsuit went?Oh yeah, I've heard of that. However, that was simply a mistake really... I dont see how binding of isaac is offensive at all, (Unless you count the into).
I do see how its tricky on how to say how I feel about the intro without being offensive, ha ha, but even in the example you used, it wasnt outright blocked, just changed. Whether anything in Binding of isaac could be changed without drastically changing the gameplay, I dont know, but I do think its just nintendo wanting to keep that oh so precious family friendly image again. And I dont see how its bad to download the title online, but fine if its retail. The e-shop is just a platform nintendo use for devleopers to post their apps, not something where they need to approve it. Heck, they have all these parental settings on the 3DS, but no, instead they just make those settings useless if theres nothing kids shouldnt be seeing anyway.
Anyway, I do know what you're saying, but... I mean look at it, how many actual violent retail games are actually on 3DS? Vita got more on day 1 then 3DS did for a whole year nearly. Could just be that no developers want to make such games for 3DS, but if thats the case, nintendo should be asking themselves why.
I mean, this is a game where you control a naked kid that uses his excrement, urine and blood to fight giant vaginas and demons. And one of his power-ups is to stick a coat hanger through his head. Along with a cartoonish art style that makes the game even more creepy.
Changed, the same way Zelda OoT was, remember how that lawsuit went?Oh yeah, I've heard of that. However, that was simply a mistake really... I dont see how binding of isaac is offensive at all, (Unless you count the into).
I do see how its tricky on how to say how I feel about the intro without being offensive, ha ha, but even in the example you used, it wasnt outright blocked, just changed. Whether anything in Binding of isaac could be changed without drastically changing the gameplay, I dont know, but I do think its just nintendo wanting to keep that oh so precious family friendly image again. And I dont see how its bad to download the title online, but fine if its retail. The e-shop is just a platform nintendo use for devleopers to post their apps, not something where they need to approve it. Heck, they have all these parental settings on the 3DS, but no, instead they just make those settings useless if theres nothing kids shouldnt be seeing anyway.
Anyway, I do know what you're saying, but... I mean look at it, how many actual violent retail games are actually on 3DS? Vita got more on day 1 then 3DS did for a whole year nearly. Could just be that no developers want to make such games for 3DS, but if thats the case, nintendo should be asking themselves why.
Violent games such as?
I'm only interested in Uncharted and Katamari when it comes to the vita so I don't know.
oh and Gravity Rush.
Who has a problem with 3d lolicon bouncing boobs?This is insane. Can you imagine if Sony didn't allow the DVDs of the movie Sleepers to play on their TVs or DVD players because they didn't want a movie about childhood sexual abuse to be "associated" with their hardware? That sort of thing would never fly in the world of cinema, but it looks like that kind of thought policing is still acceptable in "lesser" art forms like videogames.
This article makes a good point. How dare we say videogames are art if this shit is still going on. Meanwhile in Japan, Nintendo has no problems with 3D lolicon boobs bouncing games on the 3DS.
http://www.destructo...op-222917.phtml
Games fitting the genres of those you mentioned you have the following for the 3DS:Changed, the same way Zelda OoT was, remember how that lawsuit went?Oh yeah, I've heard of that. However, that was simply a mistake really... I dont see how binding of isaac is offensive at all, (Unless you count the into).
I do see how its tricky on how to say how I feel about the intro without being offensive, ha ha, but even in the example you used, it wasnt outright blocked, just changed. Whether anything in Binding of isaac could be changed without drastically changing the gameplay, I dont know, but I do think its just nintendo wanting to keep that oh so precious family friendly image again. And I dont see how its bad to download the title online, but fine if its retail. The e-shop is just a platform nintendo use for devleopers to post their apps, not something where they need to approve it. Heck, they have all these parental settings on the 3DS, but no, instead they just make those settings useless if theres nothing kids shouldnt be seeing anyway.
Anyway, I do know what you're saying, but... I mean look at it, how many actual violent retail games are actually on 3DS? Vita got more on day 1 then 3DS did for a whole year nearly. Could just be that no developers want to make such games for 3DS, but if thats the case, nintendo should be asking themselves why.
Violent games such as?
I'm only interested in Uncharted and Katamari when it comes to the vita so I don't know.
oh and Gravity Rush.
Well, theres quite a few... Dynasty Warriors, Unit 13, UMVC3, Uncharted, Army corps of hell, Dungeon hunter. So... Still more than I can name for 3DS really... Not to have a dig at 3DS or anything, I still love it and will love it even more when KH3D is out!!! But I dont know, I just dont see why 3Ds doesnt get some games.
Either way, yeah I dont see much offense with binding of isaac, as I said, only the possible, cause I believe its similar to the story in the bible where god tells a father to kill his son, and this is similar to that I guess. Not gonna say my views on it in case I cause offense, but I dont think its grounds enough in my opinion to stop a game. Its not even just this that annoys me, its more that theres nothing really to be excited for on it upcoming and theres one thing that can cause interest and its blocked. Plus the fact th people who own the devices arent all children and we can make up our own minds. Heck, make us all sign a contract to not sue if I find anything offensive if they're that bothered about that, we just want games on the eshop, seriously...
Games fitting the genres of those you mentioned you have the following for the 3DS:Changed, the same way Zelda OoT was, remember how that lawsuit went?Oh yeah, I've heard of that. However, that was simply a mistake really... I dont see how binding of isaac is offensive at all, (Unless you count the into).
I do see how its tricky on how to say how I feel about the intro without being offensive, ha ha, but even in the example you used, it wasnt outright blocked, just changed. Whether anything in Binding of isaac could be changed without drastically changing the gameplay, I dont know, but I do think its just nintendo wanting to keep that oh so precious family friendly image again. And I dont see how its bad to download the title online, but fine if its retail. The e-shop is just a platform nintendo use for devleopers to post their apps, not something where they need to approve it. Heck, they have all these parental settings on the 3DS, but no, instead they just make those settings useless if theres nothing kids shouldnt be seeing anyway.
Anyway, I do know what you're saying, but... I mean look at it, how many actual violent retail games are actually on 3DS? Vita got more on day 1 then 3DS did for a whole year nearly. Could just be that no developers want to make such games for 3DS, but if thats the case, nintendo should be asking themselves why.
Violent games such as?
I'm only interested in Uncharted and Katamari when it comes to the vita so I don't know.
oh and Gravity Rush.
Well, theres quite a few... Dynasty Warriors, Unit 13, UMVC3, Uncharted, Army corps of hell, Dungeon hunter. So... Still more than I can name for 3DS really... Not to have a dig at 3DS or anything, I still love it and will love it even more when KH3D is out!!! But I dont know, I just dont see why 3Ds doesnt get some games.
Either way, yeah I dont see much offense with binding of isaac, as I said, only the possible, cause I believe its similar to the story in the bible where god tells a father to kill his son, and this is similar to that I guess. Not gonna say my views on it in case I cause offense, but I dont think its grounds enough in my opinion to stop a game. Its not even just this that annoys me, its more that theres nothing really to be excited for on it upcoming and theres one thing that can cause interest and its blocked. Plus the fact th people who own the devices arent all children and we can make up our own minds. Heck, make us all sign a contract to not sue if I find anything offensive if they're that bothered about that, we just want games on the eshop, seriously...
Samurai Warriors Chronicles (if you don't know, it's almost the same as Dinasty Warriors, main dif is that one is in Japan and the other in China), Monster Hunter, Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater, Resident Evil Revelations, Resident Evil Mercenaries... Hell... Unlike it's preceding Nintendo consoles it's even full of fighters after being released for roughly one year: Street Fighter, Blazblue, Dead or Alive, Tekken and maybe some other ones released in Japan. How can you say that the 3DS has no violent games when there's so many being released for the 3DS? There's even horror games, like Spirit Camera, a Japanese like horror game with AR elements and all that, stuff that normally wouldn't leave Japan, but now will reach the whole world.
Nintendo has become much more open to games compared to the past, even the DS has some CoD games, crappy as hell, but it had them.
I played Binding of Isaac and that game is so wrong in many ways, it's not suited for a console, not just handhelds, on PC's you can play and do many stuff, but there are things that won't work well outside it.