Hacking N64 Emulation on 3DS... Speculation

[Shubshub]

This thread is for anything relating to Nintendo 64 Emulation for 3DS

Do you think it is Possible


Seeing as though we don't know the Official Specifications of the 3DS it is Unknown at this point

Discuss

Please No Flaming, Trolling or Arguing

 

[Parasite X]

I believe it's possible that the 3DS can emulate some but not all N64 games the reason I believe the 3DS can emulate the N64 is because the 3DS hasn't been truly hacked yet so we don't know if it's possible or not.I wouldn't be surprised if the 3DS surpassed the PSP/vita in power when it comes to emulation when it's hacked everyone says the is bad at emulation but that's not true.

 

[Thorhian]

The funny thing is that we know for the most part what the specs are. Clocks officially seem to elude me when I search for a absolute source for them, however evidence points to a ARM dual core/ dual CPU system that is probably ARM 11. We know it has the PICA, and RAM was revealed via tear downs.

Edit: 3D Brew seems to say they official documentation on the CPU specs on their website. They aren't citing a link... I have a feeling they have some documentation that isn't available to the public. A development 3DS (panda unit) may have given them all they needed.

 

[tecra_a8]

3DS is clearly more powerful than PSP, so yes
but don't expect smooth gameplay

 

[Thorhian]

I don't believe that 3DS will be able to emulate too well. I expect it will be slightly better than the PSP, but I expect that due to the n64's RISC based 64 bit CPU it will still be quite lacking. GBA and SNES will be great, especially compared to the DS and the dsTwo. the PICa will help, but I'm not sure if it will be enough.

 

[Shubshub]

The games I do hope for it to emulate are
Paper Mario
TLoZ OOT and Mario Kart 64

Although Sound can be sacrificed for Performance... Right?

 

[Thorhian]

The games I do hope for it to emulate are
Paper Mario
TLoZ OOT and Mario Kart 64

Although Sound can be sacrificed for Performance... Right?

Yes, in fact, it may Have to be sacrificed for many games.

 

[Shubshub]

Yes, in fact, it may Have to be sacrificed for many games.

And Some of the more Minor Controls can be Moved to the Touch Screen
(Which instead of the same buttons always on the touch screen have it Game Specific)

 

[Isle41]

TLoZ OOT

But why?
TLoZ OoT3D isn't good enough?

 

[Shubshub]

But why?
TLoZ OoT3D isn't good enough?

Because I Can't afford TLoZ OoT3D

 

[Isle41]

Because I Can't afford TLoZ OoT3D

Don't be a pirate o:<<

 

[linuxGuru]

Don't be a pirate o:<<

He probably owns the n64 version, which he wants to emulate. How is that being a pirate?

 

[Isle41]

He probably owns the n64 version, which he wants to emulate. How is that being a pirate?

I'm willing to bet any sum of money he doesn't.
If he does, I have no problem with him going through the pains of dumping the rom himself XD

 

[Thorhian]

L

I'm willing to bet any sum of money he doesn't.
If he does, I have no problem with him going through the pains of dumping the rom himself XD

Let's keep the piracy discussion out of here, it will destroy the thread.....

 

[linuxGuru]

I'm willing to bet any sum of money he doesn't.
If he does, I have no problem with him going through the pains of dumping the rom himself XD

Maybe, but if he really wanted to pirate wouldn't he go for the 3ds version rather than the n64 version anyways.

 

[Oxybelis]

No. PS1, N64 and PSP use MIPS CPU. So it's easier to emulate them on PSP. 3DS has ARM processor. And it's low clocked ARMv6. ePSXe team said ARMv6 was not enough for ePSXe on Android for good framerates.

 

[ov3rkill]

Or maybe, Nintendo can perhaps release some N64 classics on the 3DS. That would be sick.

 

[VMM]

Or maybe, Nintendo can perhaps release some N64 classics on the 3DS. That would be sick.

If Nintendo do not even release SNES VC games, I highly doubt we will have N64 VC games on e-shop.

 

[Forest_GS]

My first try at getting N64 games on the 3DS would be to look at Ocarina of Time for the 3DS. If the developers ripped apart the ROM into easier to read pieces, I would try to see if I could rip apart other ROMs in a similar fashion and try to replace the pieces in OoT with new pieces of the new ROM.

It would probably be much easier to reverse-engineer OoT if the ROM itself was modified and there was an emulation top layer, but it sounds too good/ very unlikely to be true.

If there is ever a Nintendo 64 game released on the virtual console for the 3DS, that might be more a more realistic target for reverse-engineering. The main reason I am thinking of reverse-engineering instead of starting from scratch, is because I'm much better at editing code than writing it...I understand how to edit most programming languages, but I can only write in C properly.(it's actually very easy to edit almost any programming language after learning one, for me anyways)

(if anyone is wondering, I own 60 N64 cartridges ranging from Power Rangers to Quest64, including the Zelda games)

 

[Oxybelis]

OoT 3D was redone 100%. Even music. I remember reading about this at Iwata asks.