Muller Makes History Exposing Crime Spree of Former Trump Aides

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  1. SG854
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    SG854 Hell Spawn

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    Uh oh. The greatest achievement since watergate. Highest rate of indictments of aids ever. It’s any day now the Muller Report will release. And we will see what criminal charges are against Trump.

     
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    I mean, didn't traitor Graham decide to keep the results of his investigation secret from the public in a 420-0 vote to release it? Just like any innocent person would do?
     
  3. Xzi

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    I'm honestly not worried that Mueller's team will find a way to let the public see what they're meant to see. Up to now he's had those sorts of fail-safes in all his work.

    Watergate ain't shit compared to everything Trump is involved with, a simple wiretap seems quaint by comparison lol. That said, I still don't believe Mueller's report will be enough to end Trump's presidency. The Republican Senate won't convict him of impeachable crimes no matter how stacked the evidence is against him. The best we can hope for is that it tanks his approval rating long enough to make him lose 2020 by a comfortable margin. He's a fucking conman and a mobster who has done lasting damage to the country.

    On a side note, I didn't expect you to be in favor of Mueller's investigation, regardless of the fact that he is a registered Republican. :P
     
  4. Taleweaver

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    I'm...a bit cautious, here. As your other couple threads clearly illustrates, we're on a rather different spectrum politically. As such, I'm more used to news channels being downplayed because it tells them things they don't like. This is the sort of news I watch reasonably often (by pure incidence, I had already watched this one). So...does this mean you give MSNBC some credibility here? :unsure:

    And if so...I should point out what the video also points out: Mueller's investigation isn't so much against Trump itself (which is what fox news likes to tell people*), but against his entourage. It's just that whenever you follow the money, it flows to Trump. It's not like Cohen was the one benefiting from those Trump towers in Russia. It's not like Flynn was colluding with Russians because he liked their accents. It's not like Stone was accepting dirt on Hillary Clinton for the fun of it. So indeed...the evidence and witnesses gathered might lead to charges against Donald Trump.

    It's probably no surprise that I voted "yes" on your poll question. I mean...if it wasn't for my posts, then at least this poll I started a few weeks back shows my stance on things. :P






    *alongside with a "he's doing a lousy job at doing whatever WE think he's out to do" narrative
     
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    SG854 Hell Spawn

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    Your right about being caustious about what I believe in because I still think the Trump Russia collusion is ridiculous. I’m bringing the best argument on the other side I found to be fair and balanced, but I’m still not a believer. Criminal charges but no links. Still no proof surfaces.

    I like watching both left wing and right wing news to stay balanced because I don’t want to be boxed in and want to be well informed. For left wing I really like Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk, David Pakman, Tim Pool. On the right Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder.

    This is a really good recent video about the Russia Trump Collusion by left wing guy Jimmy Dore, and the points he makes are excellent.

    People have lost faith in Muller. Half of Americans now believe that this is a witch hunt.

    Democrats have put their faith in Robert Muller, the guy that lied and led us into a war during the Bush years.

    People were so focused on Trump that they never investigated Hillary Democratic Party Collusion, which now they are finally starting to investigate collusion with her and the Ukraine.

    If there was collusion and Trump was a puppet of Putin, then why did Trump do things against what Putin and Russia wanted? There is an excellent tweet saying, He bombed his Syrian ally twice. He tried to overthrow his Venezuelan ally. He tore up the INF treaty. He’s preparing sanctions on the German-Russian pipeline. He increased military action on Russian border. Putin doesn’t want him doing this stuff. Wasn’t it suppose to be the deal that Russia benefits if they rig the election for Trump. So why is he doing things that Putin doesn’t want him to do?

    Nancy Pelosi says she doesn’t want to impeach Trump anymore, why? Why the sudden change of heart?

    The Corporate Media and the Democratic Party is so stupid. Because of this investigation now people see Trump as a victim. They are propelling him into a second presidency and if you look at recent polls it’s projected he will win 2020. He won the first time because of constant media coverage, they couldn’t stop talking about him. Even bad press is good press. And they’re helping him again to win the presidency.

     
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    Gimme a fucking break. Trump plays a victim, always has. The only people buying the act are people who also like to play the victim.

    When has Trump ever gone against Putin's wishes? The US withdrawal from Syria was at Putin's command. Putin is also the reason that Trump lets Kim Jong Un do whatever he wants.

    Mueller is focused on taking out all of Trump's criminal cronies one at a time. He isn't going to tie it all back to Trump until the last minute, but Trump has already appeared in multiple court documents as "Individual 1," and he's also been named as unindicted co-conspirator in multiple crimes by his lawyer Michael Cohen. Cohen presented the evidence for that publicly during his Congressional testimony.
     
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    I named a bunch of points you did not address.

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    Micheal Cohen says that he doesn’t not have evidence of direct Russia Collusion. This is a guy that was working close to Trump but hates Trump.
     
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    I didn't address them because I have no idea how many of them are even accurate. Like, "increased military action on the Russian border." What? We withdrew from Syria, and that was the closest presence to Russia that our military had. We're definitely not going to war with daddy Putin either way, so it'd largely be a moot point even if we did add troops there.

    I'm talking about the other financial crimes that Cohen pinned on Trump. Russia is what the entire overarching investigation is about, so I don't expect we'll have the complete picture in that regard until Mueller files his report.
     
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    Well check them. It’s in the video. Check web sites. Chomsky has talked about it.

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    Here’s one to get you started on the German Russia Pipeline sanctions

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2019/03/11/russia-germany-pipeline
     
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    And Trump's multiple Russia connections have been talked about innumerous times. They date all the way back to the 80s. For fuck's sake, in the early 2010s, there was an illegal Russian gambling ring being run two floors below the penthouse of Trump Tower:

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...ing-headquarted-trump-tower-article-1.3004226

    And if that weren't enough, there's this little gem from Trump Jr. in 2008:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-said-money-pouring-in-from-russia-2018-2

    They can try to backpedal now all they'd like, but they aren't fooling anybody except fools. There's decades of evidence showing that Trump has long been a close bedfellow of Russian money, wherever it might be coming from. Hell, the only bank that will still loan to him is a foreign bank, Deutsche bank, and they've been under investigation for handling blood money and mob money multiple times. For all we know, they're loaning money to Trump that's coming directly from Russian oligarchs.
     
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  11. CORE

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    Just wait till Disney gets the hold of this Fairy Tale they will ruin it like Star Wars:O
     
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