Hacking iEVO DSi ROMs

[Rydian]

It's not, but people have claimed that it runs better on a DSi (we know it's emulated), but some people refute that.

I don't have the actual cart and don't care to get it so I haven't tried it.

 

[Etalon]

Sonic Classics Collection is not advertised as DSi-enhanced is it?

It detects if it's running on a DSi and obviously runs smoother on a DSi.

Same with Mario Vs DK, maybe. I don't know what the DSi features of this game might be.

 

[Razor83]

Sonic classic collection suns a bit smoother on my dsi!(original cardridge)

That means it may use the eternal CPU of the DSI.

What do you mean by smoother? Is it somehow better than the original cartridge?
Sonic Classics Collection is not advertised as DSi-enhanced is it?

Sonic Classic Collection is DSi enhanced but not advertised as such. This post might help explain more:-
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=214...p;#entry2676788

 

[Another World]

@Jakob95 and Etalon: i still have a ton more testing to do and i need to double check some rom sources. it could be that the roms i have were not correctly dumped but it could also be that the ievo doesn't have the support they think it does. i would be shocked to find out they released a firmware without fully testing it.

-another world

 

[Nathan Drake]

@Jakob95 and Etalon: i still have a ton more testing to do and i need to double check some rom sources. it could be that the roms i have were not correctly dumped but it could also be that the ievo doesn't have the support they think it does. i would be shocked to find out they released a firmware without fully testing it.

-another world

I thought they mentioned in the beginning that at release, DSi mode may not have the potential to emulate DSi dumps right away, but that homebrew support would be there from the get go. Of course, with no DSi homebrew projects to test the firmware with yet, we won't really know for sure how well DSi mode truly works.

It would be kinda harsh if the selling point of the flash cart didn't work as intended.

 

[Qtis]

@Jakob95 and Etalon: i still have a ton more testing to do and i need to double check some rom sources. it could be that the roms i have were not correctly dumped but it could also be that the ievo doesn't have the support they think it does. i would be shocked to find out they released a firmware without fully testing it.

-another world

I thought they mentioned in the beginning that at release, DSi mode may not have the potential to emulate DSi dumps right away, but that homebrew support would be there from the get go. Of course, with no DSi homebrew projects to test the firmware with yet, we won't really know for sure how well DSi mode truly works.

It would be kinda harsh if the selling point of the flash cart didn't work as intended.

If the camera has been tested to work and the Zoom 3x homebrew runs smoother on the iEvo, doesn't it mean the DSi mode is enable versus DS mode only?


-Qtis

 

[rave420]

that is quite disapointing.
My only reason to buy this was the DSi Games, nothing else. And now we find out that all roms have DSi data missing.

Looks like we need someone with an actual DSi enhanced card to dump their game and give us some CRC32's to compare.

What if this is a cyclo problem? I shall wait for some firmware updates before making a call on this one.

 

[Qtis]

that is quite disapointing.
My only reason to buy this was the DSi Games, nothing else. And now we find out that all roms have DSi data missing.

Looks like we need someone with an actual DSi enhanced card to dump their game and give us some CRC32's to compare.

What if this is a cyclo problem? I shall wait for some firmware updates before making a call on this one.

The problem is most likely the game dumps made. If you have a look at the Game dumping Topic you'll notice that there might be a problem with dumping DSi games and possibly DSi enhanced games. As a side note, not all games have the DSi data missing and some games run quite a bit smoother with the DSi than the DS.. Go figure

-Qtis

 

[Rydian]

Yeah when DSi games first came out there was a lot if confusions and issues, and I don't know exactly how they were cleared up...

EDIT: I know that the DSi-dumping tools are held in secrecy by some release groups, but that's about it,

 

[Mbmax]

ran some tests with the ievo v2 firmware:

4678 - Bejeweled Twist (DSi Enhanced) (U)(BAHAMUT) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode
4765 - Sonic Classic Collection (DSi Enhanced) (U)(Venom) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode
xxxx - Foto Showdown (DSi Exclusive) (U)(Independent) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode
xxxx - Picture Perfect Hair Salon (DSi Exclusive) (U)(RFTD) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode
xxxx - System FLAW (DSi Exclusive) (E)(RFTD) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode
xxxx - System Flaw (DSi Exclusive) (U)(RFTD) ---- says the game is missing the dsi specific sections, does not load in dsi-mode

3949 - My Healthy Cooking Coach (DSi Enhanced) (U)(BAHAMUT) ---- works, camera works.

foto showdown, system flaw, and hair salon, are listed as being "dsi" games. =( the rest of the "dsi-enhanced" games have the same problem except for tron.

i'm also have lots of issues with the in-game menu. it fails to work on a majority of what i've tested so far.

-another world

4678, 4765 are suspected to be bad dumps.
You should try some proper dump like the 3949 you already tested.

 

[rave420]

so the only redeeming thing about the card is the savegame exploit which allows access to the DSi's hardware.

I don't think i have to buy a new card for that, i think i just have to incorporate the savegame exploit into any other flashcard, and make changes and addaptions in the firmware.

Or is there anything about the CycloDS iEVO HARDWARE that is unique that other cards don't have?
as far as i am concerned, it has a proASIC3 on the PCB, just like my M3i0.

ah well, something tells me i am going to buy one anyway, just to attempt some reverse engineering

 

[Another World]

I thought they mentioned in the beginning that at release, DSi mode may not have the potential to emulate DSi dumps right away, but that homebrew support would be there from the get go. Of course, with no DSi homebrew projects to test the firmware with yet, we won't really know for sure how well DSi mode truly works.

It would be kinda harsh if the selling point of the flash cart didn't work as intended.

yes, but the beta software offered dsi-mode for games. things change in this hobby all the time. one post made a month ago is very outdated by the time the software is actually released.

QUOTE(Mbmax @ Feb 2 2011, 10:27 AM) 4678, 4765 are suspected to be bad dumps.
You should try some proper dump like the 3949 you already tested.

yea, i think the issue is with the dumps. i need more than 1 working "dsi" enhanced game for the review. its hard to tell if the problem is with the dumps or the software, but i do assume it is the dumps.

-another world

 

[Mbmax]

RFTD and Bahamut releaser group seems to have a magical dumper.

 

[Mbmax]

Legacy was the first to make a proper DSi dump. I missed this one.

Nice machine.

 

[Bowser-jr]

So we just have to get a hold of "Proper" DSi Enhance/Enable Roms?

 

[Qtis]

So we just have to get a hold of "Proper" DSi Enhance/Enable Roms?

Yes basically that's the problem at the moment with the DSi enhanced features. If you can't dump the game with the DSi part, it will act as a DS game AFAIK. It's a little problem since most of the software made for dumping via DSL apparently doesn't include the DSi enhanced part of the ROM. Maybe someone actually has to make it differently so that DSi dumping is made possible?


-Qtis

 

[Heran Bago]

Sonic classic collection suns a bit smoother on my dsi!(original cardridge)

That means it may use the eternal CPU of the DSI.

The DSi does not use an eternal CPU, it has increased RAM.

 

[Qtis]

Sonic classic collection suns a bit smoother on my dsi!(original cardridge)

That means it may use the eternal CPU of the DSI.
The DSi does not use an eternal CPU, it has increased RAM.


But it does have a better CPU compared to the DSL. Thus technically what Lightning said is not true but still has a bit of it in a way. Double CPU speed = practically a new processor compared to the old one (with the speeds we are talking about).

Wikipedia

Technical specifications

The DSi has more RAM and a faster CPU than the DS Lite;[69] the CPU was also relocated, and the battery housing raised to fill the unused space.[2] Developers reported the console enters one of two modes for running software; a native mode, allowing access to the system's extra processing and memory resources for DSi-exclusive software and a compatibility mode for software able to run on DS and DS Lite consoles.[70][71] Due to the inclusion of Codec IC, which amplifies sound and converts digital signals to analog, the DSi's audio output is louder and higher quality than previous DS models.[2]

The console does not include the Game Boy Advance (GBA) cartridge slot present on earlier models; Nintendo explained that its removal improved portability without sacrificing durability.[44] Because of this, the DSi is not backward compatible with GBA Game Paks, or with accessories that require the GBA slot, such as the Nintendo DS Rumble Pak and the Guitar Hero: On Tour series guitar grip.[72]

* CPU: The DSi has two ARM architecture CPUs; ARM9 and ARM7.[cn 1] The ARM9 is clocked at 133 MHz (almost twice as fast as previous models).[69][73][74]
* RAM: 16 MB of RAM (four times as much as previous models)[54]
* Storage: 256 MB of internal flash memory[76] with a SD card (up to 2 GB) and SDHC card (up to 32 GB) expansion slot[77]
* Wireless: 802.11b/g internal wireless connectivity[55]

-Qtis

 

[GH0ST]

Legacy was the first to make a proper DSi dump. I missed this one.

Nice machine.

Thanks so far we need extra-hardware to dump our games... It looks more sophisticate than the previous one ( the one pictured with only a few wires, a funky LED and power supply) ... I like the legacy super woofer

IIRC, the dump of My Healthy Cooking Coach (U) by SUXXORS contained valid DSi sections. That game also is known to use the camera, so seems like a good candidate for testing.

ran some tests with the ievo v2 firmware:
3949 - My Healthy Cooking Coach (DSi Enhanced) (U)(BAHAMUT) ---- works, camera works.

QUOTE

Despite what Suxxors claims, their dump of My Healthy Cooking Coach is still missing the dsi secure area (dsi arm9).

( from legacy NFO )
So we have bad dumps, bad working dumps and perfectly working dumps ?

 

[Bowser-jr]

Yeah, pretty much. Team Cyclo says that we would need to re-dump all the DSi Enhanced/Only so they come WITH the DSi parts. I guess the only working DSi games are the recently new ones like Pocket Monster Black and White and such.

Anyway we could request a re-dump of the DSi enhanced/only games? Is there even a section for this sorta thing?