I know absolutely NOTHING about psp

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Dec 22, 2007
  1. 123noob321
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    alright so i know absolutely nothing in the world about the psp, i have never played one accept a little bit at target and none of my friends have one so i need to know what i need to buy my guess is

    1. Slim PSP
    2. datel tool battery /slim version?
    3. a memory stick (dont know how much memory i would need at the minimum)

    now before i buy it i want to know how to make it able to play games from the memory stick and what i need to do (I do NOT want to know where to find games illegally as i prefer using my own backups)

    i really need a step-by-step guide for somebody that just opens the psp and knows NOTHING about it,..i honestly know ZERO i mean tell me like...step 1 open box and charge psp step 2 do this...you understand..

    i have found a few guides around the net but they seem to require some knowledge of the psp and please do not direct me to another thread..you could also help my via pm would be great but if somebody made a guide for ABSOLUTE NOOBS it could probably get stickied.. i mean

    i dont understand all this changing of firmware or anything
     


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    Any easier than this and it's someone doing it for you irl:

     
  3. 123noob321
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    i did see that in another thread and i've read it a million times but somehow it seems alot simpler now [​IMG] the only problem i am having is it dosent tell you what to do as far as which battery and why im buying a new one? i dont underrstand about the battery still....and this does work on slim?

    btw how big of card would you suggest from your own experience as i dont know how big the isos come to be or anything.. [​IMG]
     
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    also...are the files i need for the magic mem included with "TOTALNewbieasyInstallerPandorasmenu" (im having trouble finding it) or do i need the magic mem files too?

    and does it have to be windows xp? [​IMG] nothing...say...lower? [​IMG]
     
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    wow....that does look extremely simple.....I feel like a idiot for not understanding it before...

    EDIT: btw, use edit instead of a double post
     
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    Am I missing something or do we still need a hacked unit to make the mem stick in which case if you're alone you're pretty boned?
     
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    woops im sorry..im glad others are benifiting from my...unkowledgableness..if thats a word.. [​IMG] but also i would like to know (im sorry for all the questions) i found firmware 1.50 is there any point at all of getting this?
     
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    You never really needed a hacked psp to create the magic memory stick.
    It's just that the hacked psp could run a program that created a file on the stick that's not legal to share or something.
    The totalnewbie thing just installs everything needed, including that file.
    If you have completed the installer, that's all you need for the memory stick part. So then it's a magic one.

    And I think you need Windows XP yeah, it doesn't even run on Vista, so I suppose lower doesn't work either.

    About the battery you need, the phat one will work fine also. I personally bought the fat one, cause it can downgrade phats as well as slims, and I believe the slim one only works for slim.

    For the size of the memory stick, I personally bought this one (2GB) and have Tekken (compressed lvl3), Final Fantasy 7 Disc1 (compressed lvl9), some SNES roms and some music on it and about 50MB left on the MS. An uncompressed Tekken iso takes 1.62GB already so they can become pretty huge.
    So 2GB is pretty much a minimum if you plan to put PSP ISO('s) on it, but 4GB and up MS's are quite a bit more expensive.

    The 1.50 firmware update you've found is totally irrelevant in your situation. The totalnewbie thingy will install all the MS files you need...
     
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    wow thank you so much for your information.. i'll deffinatley have to get aa 2gb then..would their be some games that wouldn't fit? because vice city would be my first purchase and if it didnt fit i would hate that...

    now you are 100% sure a phat datel tool battery will work on a slim psp correct? i need to make sure, im not doubting you or anything..i just waqnt to like make sure you didnt hear it somewher and not actually try it.. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    EDIT: instead of a tool battery is ther one that will work on dx because i dont know the best place to buy

    DOUBLE EDIT: i came across a file "magic memory stick" and it seems to have a few .exe files, psp and registry folders, a .pbp file(whatever that is)...couldn't i just drag that to a memory stick and skip all this stuff or no?
     
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    About the size of iso's, I'm not sure what the biggest ones are, but Vice City Stories is in uncompressed state 851MB.

    I personally used the phat one yes, it's just a little uncomfortable that it doesn't fit with the battery cover, but it does work.

    There are no tool batteries on dealextreme, also the batteries from dealextreme are not soft-moddable to pandora batteries and hard-modding them is said to be lots harder then hard-modding an official battery.

    I don't know about the magic memory stick files. But dragging .exe files to your memory stick seems pretty pointless. Also I believe you need to format your memory card in a special way, so just dragging files wouldn't be enough either.
    PBP files are like .exe files for the psp, official demo's, homebrew and firmware upgrades for example are .pbp files.


    I don't know what solutions there are for non-xp computers, I just used the newbie inststaller so I have no experience with any other method.
     
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    Can I ask why after completing this you need to get a second battery?


    This tutorial needs some work. When I get to this section NOTHING happens on my PSP. I run the data on the card and it says the game could not be run and gives an error message. Wtf?

     
  12. 123noob321
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    my suggestion would be to remake the magic memory stick until it works..as the person clearly says (sometimes i get confused anyway lol) he/she had to do it atleast 5 times...so just keep trying..you've already made your nand dump so trial and error should work alright from here on (judging from what i've read)

    on a side note the nebieinstaller thingy is very hard to find and the only place i've found it at starts with a "Q" and the download link dosent work for me..any help thru pms with maybe rapidshare or something would be extremely helpful [​IMG]

    also the rom for vice city i saw was in 18 parts with 99 megs each...in .rar so something might be wrong with that right? i would just like to make sure i can download it before i actually buy vice city...(i dont like carrying cds around it bugs the crap outtas me)

    EDIT: oh sorry i ignored your battery question.............because the battery you are doing this with is either a tool battery or one you modded yourself..if it is a tool battery you use...just put the original in when you are done..(CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG) but this guide told you how to mod a battery beforehand so if you dont know what it was telling you to do before you could become lost. [​IMG]

    and also i have another ?...you can use the tool battery more than once and you only need it when changing fw..correct?
     
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    He didn't make the nand dump yet. I think he doesn't even have a good battery yet. The installer failed 2 times for me also, but I noticed during the install already, cause suddenly the card wasn't detected by windows and I got copy errors. It continued to fail untill I formatted the ms again and decided to use my PSP as the card reader instead of my cheapy usb card reader. Which worked fine at the first try.
    If the installer failed inserting the battery will power up the PSP but after a few seconds it'll automatically shut off again. If the installer succeeded it will stay on. It won't show anything on your screen either way on the slim.

    I used the qj download myself, still works fine here...

    The iso's usually come in multiple rar files if you download them yes, but the total file size is a bit weird, mine is just 851MB, you're sure it's not the PS2 version or something? Might be I got a compressed one or something also, or that there's lots of difference between US/EU sizes. [​IMG]

    About the battery stuff: If you have a tool battery, that's just your hard-modded battery. You just use that one for the pandora stuff and keep your original battery for booting your psp and playing games and stuff. You won't need a third battery no.
     
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    i think i understand..the one i found was (E)..
     
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    Someone I knwo might be interested in purchasing a PSP slim in the near future and I was wondering if the workarounds found here can be used on any PSP slim? The PSPs I see in stores where I live in Belgium are from the PSP-2004 series, but I have noticed on the official Sony site that there are a lot more PSP series.

    Does it matter what series PSP slim you buy or can any PSP slim be bought?

    Thank you in advance for your help!
     
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    [​IMG]
    according to what i have read in 2 completely different sites on the net.. the totalnewbi method can in fact be used on all model of psp...but i am just telling you what i have heard i am not sure in any way.

    also, i think these will be my FINAL QUESTIONS:

    1. after you make the magic memory stick, where do you put the games on your card?

    2. will i have to change my firmware again or does the one supplied with TotalNewbi make all games work?

    3.if something should go terribly wrong after i have made the nand backup, and i brick the psp or something..how do i restore it?

    4. i dont know how saving works, please explain. and can you back them up and stuff?

    5. i am planning on buying the one monkey suggested...does anybody know of a better deal?, and monkey..you are sure this works well?

    THANK YOU EVERYONE and icarus too, because i had asked him something thru pms.

    [​IMG] and oh yeahs what file extension is psp games?
     
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    For now all psp's should work with pandora yes.
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    In the ISO folder. Just format your MS from the PSP menu and it'll create all folders for you.
    2.
    I'd suggest to update to the latest CFW right away which can be found here. It has better support for multidisc PS1 games, but I believe one of the earlier versions which the newbie thing installs could also give problems if you messed with the wrong advanced options or something. Anyway, there are no downsides to it, and it's easy to install (just copy to games folder and execute as if it were a game)
    3.
    Well, depends on how bad you screwed up. You should first try to remove the battery, reïnsert the battery and start up while holding the R button. If this gives the recovery menu, you can try recovering there.
    If that doesn't work, you might want to try to use the Pandora battery/ms to reïnstall the cfw again.
    In the worst case, you could use the Pandora battery and the magic mem stick including your nand dump file in the root and click the special key combination to restore the nand. But you should always try other methods first because that method can cause a full brick as well.
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    I assume your talking about the save files for psp games? They're stored on your ms in the folder PSP\SAVEDATA. You can back them up by copying that folder to your hard drive.
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    Well, that's the one I've been using. Haven't had problems with it so far. At the information on your PSP it says MagicGate: Unkown though, so I don't think it supports MagicGate as advertised, but I don't think you'll need it anyway.
    It's the cheapest 2GB MSPD I could find.

    PSP Games are ISO files, or CSO (if compressed) converted PSX games are EBOOT.PBP files which should be copied with the directory with them to the PSP\GAME folder, the PSP games go in the ISO folder from the root though and don't have they're own folder.
     
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    thank you so very much you have been very very helpful to me [​IMG] although it seems each answered question springs another, i am pretyy sure this last question covers everything...dun dun dun DUUUNN

    i saw on a site i was looking at a link that said something along the lines of "convert your psp isos to make them playable on your psp" i have to convert them after i download them? with what tools? and how does trimming work? (more than one question im so sorry)

    this thread could probably help out alot of noobs that wer just as clueless as i was! [​IMG]
     
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    Its not trimming just like in NDS roms but its actually opening the ISO and removing unnecessary files.
    This is done using UMDGen. It allows you to open up an ISO and remove files which you won't need like the UPDATE folder and some sounds, videos etc. all to reduce the final size of the ISO. Then you can compress it into a CSO which saves A LOT more space.

    ISO's are automatically playable but take up a lot of space.

    There is a few other things I want to mention which you might have overlooked.

    First of all, after you finish with the downgrading process, you can just format your memory stick to make it normal again.
    Secondly, you have to return you battery to normal after finishing the downgrade or else it will always boot in service mode and that means you can't play any games. You should have an option before turning your battery into a Pandora battery to make a Dump of the battery's flash file so you can restore it later by running Pandora's battery creator and pressing L+R.
    Also, after you finish with this process you will end up with a 1.5 FW PSP and you shouldn't leave it that way. You should upgrade from that 1.5 FW to 3.71 M33-4. Sadly its not as easy as just running a updater but I have a good link for you here.

    And thats it. I hope everything goes well and you'll be having fun on your downgraded PSP.
     
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    I don't think those things apply to him. He has a slim PSP, so he can't downgrade to 1.5. The Newbieinstaller he'll be using will install 3.71 M33-2 or something I believe.
    Also he's using a Datel Tool battery, so he won't need to restore anything, just insert his old battery again.
     

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