Final Fantasy VII remake thread

[Hungry Friend]

I want them to keep it ATB-based but eliminate the need for random battles and separate battle screens. That's why I think Chrono Trigger's system is a perfect template for SE to start with, and 2 and 3-way combination attacks would be really cool. Speed it up, make it more exciting but keep the ATB core intact. All enemies should be visible on screen and fighting them should generally be optional, although of course there will be plenty of mandatory battles.

A remaster is something like MGS3 HD(same game, just upscaled) while FFIV DS is a proper remake, for example. A remaster would maybe improve the translation and upscale/filter the pre-rendered BGs, but everything else would be the same. It doesn't have to be a completely different game to be considered a remake.

Untrue. We're not going to be seeing the exact same character models as we've always seen are we, I suspect we'll get a complete graphical replacement, which is enough to use the word 'remake' in itself. Technically they only need to change the graphics and still call it a remake: they could still leave the battle system entirely the same as it was. I'm not saying we'll see anything remaining as is of course, guess we'll just have to see... I care not about this game yet anyway, don't think we're gonna see it until Holiday 2016 at the very earliest...

While I hope it doesn't get delayed like FFXIII VS/XV, SE needs to take their sweet fucking time on this remake and do it right. Naturally there's no way to please all the fanboys but if this game is remade with respect, passion and polish, I think fans will generally love and accept it. Rushing it out would obviously be a huge mistake.

Lastly, I know "Aerith" is supposed to sound like "Earth" but I'm always gonna call her Aeris. Bring it on

 

[G0R3Z]

Untrue. We're not going to be seeing the exact same character models as we've always seen are we, I suspect we'll get a complete graphical replacement, which is enough to use the word 'remake' in itself. Technically they only need to change the graphics and still call it a remake: they could still leave the battle system entirely the same as it was. I'm not saying we'll see anything remaining as is of course, guess we'll just have to see... I care not about this game yet anyway, don't think we're gonna see it until Holiday 2016 at the very earliest...

You also misunderstand. It isn't even just a 'replacement'. They can't reuse ANY of FFVII's assets because of modern game making systems. They have to literally remake every inch and cranny of the game. But people want the same damn game but with modern models and graphics. HAving the same battle system is possible, but it isn't exactly modern. I think SE is going to mess this 'remake' up. The only reason they're doing it is because nobody believes in them anymore, it's not like they're that committed.

 

[Hungry Friend]

You also misunderstand. It isn't even just a 'replacement'. They can't reuse ANY of FFVII's assets because of modern game making systems. They have to literally remake every inch and cranny of the game. But people want the same damn game but with modern models and graphics. HAving the same battle system is possible, but it isn't exactly modern. I think SE is going to mess this 'remake' up. The only reason they're doing it is because nobody believes in them anymore, it's not like they're that committed.

I agree that this remake is a desperation move on SE's part but I think they have no choice but to commit to it fully unless they want to go under as a company. FF7 was Squaresoft's most popular game ever so they will probably at least TRY to make this an awesome remake. I'm skeptical that SE can pull off a good remake as well but if they don't even try and just rush out some turd with pretty graphics, they're fucked and they know it. SE's stupid but not THAT stupid imo.

 

[DiscostewSM]

With how SE has been handling themselves for the past decade, I'm very weary as to how this game will turn out. They've changed so much since the original PS1 release that I'm afraid that they'll change the game as well, insomuch that it'll end up being a steaming pile of beautifully-rendered crap. I'm real tempted just to go on Steam and pick up the 2012 port for cheap. If this remake turns out to be great, I'll end up getting it for my PC.

 

[Harsky]

I don't know who it was that said this but, "I wanted a FF7 remake... but not by the Square of today". I won't be surprised if the original team who worked on FF7 look back at the source code and "do a George Lucas" and change so much things beyond just graphics and music. Maybe even rewrite the storyline to fit the canon.

 

[Hyro-Sama]

I don't know who it was that said this but, "I wanted a FF7 remake... but not by the Square of today". I won't be surprised if the original team who worked on FF7 look back at the source code and "do a George Lucas" and change so much things beyond just graphics and music. Maybe even rewrite the storyline to fit the canon.

That's exactly what they're going to do though.

 

[Blaze163]

I'm a huge fan of the 'classic' Final Fantasy games. Put it this way, I've been wearing my Soldier First Class dog tag around my neck so long that the original silver coating has completely eroded off, it's now bronze. I'm also wearing my Balamb Garden SeeD Academy Class of '99 t shirt while I type this. So...yeah, I'm excited.......BUT!

To my mind the Final Fantasy series has by and large been a steaming puddle of monkey wank ever since Hironobu Sakaguchi split off to form Mistwalker. At the same time, Mistwalker came right out of nowhere with classic after classic. Doesn't take a genius to see where the talent was in that relationship. I just hope the knuckleheads at Square Enix recognize that they don't need to reinvent the wheel here, they don't need to innovate for the sake of innovation, this is a project for long term fans. They don't need to alter the story, it was fine first time, they don't need to make any major changes, if they absolutely must change the battle system I say go with the new Dissidia system, it's designed for 3 fighters anyway and it'd certainly make the game nice and flashy for the low brow 'bro gamer' crowd who aren't interested in story or character, they just want something sparkly to distract them from how lame they are. Like jingling a bunch of keys in front of a baby. Cloud is absolutely NOT to go full emo from the start, that wasn't how the original plot worked, and frankly everyone hates Emo Angsty Cloud anyway. Not sure why Japan thinks we all love angsty crying protagonists but THEY'RE WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL.

Aside from that, keep censorship out of this because it's bullshit anyway, especially the double standards regarding sex and violence. Show someone getting sliced in half and guts spilling everywhere, no problem. Show a bit of side boob, the whole world goes apeshit. You do know we need sex to survive as a species, right? And if there are any corporate shenanigans on this one, like stuff being stripped out to be sold as DLC (basically I expect all the content from the original game to be present and available right out of the box, anything extra as DLC, go ahead) then I may just take my replica Buster Sword over to Square Enix headquarters and just go full blown Limit Break on their faces.

 

[sarkwalvein]

That's exactly what they're going to do though.

No. Please. No.

 

[G0R3Z]

No. Please. No.

I'd love them to write in Advent children as part of the game - it'd make a fantastic addition as people have been begging for a dedicated game. Maybe i'm wrong though - I'd hate for them to stick to the "everything as it should" approach. I'd like them to take some liberties and add some points into the plot, more side quests, expand into more antagonists etc.

 

[chartube12]

No. Please. No.

They already announced they are though.

 

[sarkwalvein]

They already announced they are though.

Oh... well... just turn Cloud into another emotionally deficient late squareenix character wannabe... why japan... not cool...

Cloud is absolutely NOT to go full emo from the start, that wasn't how the original plot worked, and frankly everyone hates Emo Angsty Cloud anyway. Not sure why Japan thinks we all love angsty crying protagonists but THEY'RE WRONG ON EVERY LEVEL.

^THIS so many times.

 

[dimmidice]

either it will be the best thing ever. or it'l completely butcher a game i hold very dear.
i can see it going either way so i don't know how to feel about it. i really really really hope they remake it word for word. no content cut, no jokes removed, no changes to the story. no changes to the combat system. just remake it with new graphics/audio.

i know they'l have to change how some things work of course, with the change in graphic systems. but they need to get the core feeling, atmosphere, and gameplay of it right or it's just not gonna work.

They already announced they are though.

link?

 

[Walker D]

Cloud will be a whiny Emo in the FF7 remake?!

 

[G0R3Z]

Cloud will be a whiny Emo in the FF7 remake?!

With Square-enix's current trend of doing exactly that, most likely.

 

[Hells Malice]

Hopefully the combat changes they're eluding to means it'll fit more with FFXV. That would be fantastic. VII had a pretty solid system as is, but turn based combat is so archaic that barely anyone can pull it off properly, aside from Atlus.

Still would've rather seen Crisis Core remade. Zack is an infinitely better character and the story of CC was way more interesting. Genesis kicks the shit out of Sephiroth. They were both nuts, but Genesis was a much better tasting brand of nuts.

 

[G0R3Z]

Hopefully the combat changes they're eluding to means it'll fit more with FFXV. That would be fantastic. VII had a pretty solid system as is, but turn based combat is so archaic that barely anyone can pull it off properly, aside from Atlus.

Still would've rather seen Crisis Core remade. Zack is an infinitely better character and the story of CC was way more interesting. Genesis kicks the shit out of Sephiroth. They were both nuts, but Genesis was a much better tasting brand of nuts.

True, Sephiroth just wanted to be near his mummy, then it sort of took it from there. Kind of sad, really.

 

[osaka35]

Turn based might make everyone orgasm with nostalgia, but it's not something you'd put into a modern AAA release.

Because bravely default sucked and flopped.

I agree with the emo part though. They'd have to either completely restructure the plot, just make him a bit quiet but not emo till later on, or just make him emo the whole time and make a complete mess.

90% chance they're going with option 3, because who cares about writing a good story. Let's just make it look cool.

 

[DiscostewSM]

True, Sephiroth just wanted to be near his mummy, then it sort of took it from there. Kind of sad, really.

 

[G0R3Z]

Because bravely default sucked and flopped.

I agree with the emo part though. They'd have to either completely restructure the plot, just make him a bit quiet but not emo till later on, or just make him emo the whole time and make a complete mess.

90% chance they're going with option 3, because who cares about writing a good story. Let's just make it look cool.

Because Bravely default is a portable game. Portable games are much more acceptable to have turn based systems so they're easy to pick up and play. Standards are much different for a full console release.

I'm also pretty sure of what you said too - They're going to invest most of the development into graphics and effects and the rest of it will just be a mess.

Although once it hits PC, most of the problems people have will have mods I'm sure. They do tend to structure their games poorly, easy for modders to exploit.

Although again, likely they're going to use Steve Burton (cloud in Kingdom hearts and advent children) as Cloud's Voice actor. Then there'll be no fixing his emo sound. Burton makes him sound like a gloomy mess.

 

[osaka35]

Because Bravely default is a portable game. Portable games are much more acceptable to have turn based systems so they're easy to pick up and play. Standards are much different for a full console release.

Which is a shame. I suppose Ni No Kuni doesn't qualify as AAA?

Turn based systems are built around strategy of moves, whereas whatever they have today is just designed to move fast and keep up the flow of the game. "don't do anything that'll take the players out of the game" seems to be the mantra, as well as "let's make sure to keep the player engaged and not get bored". Which is fine and all, but they're doing a crap job with balancing that and the whole "carefully thinking about your next move" thing. It's not just nostalgia that makes me want the turn-based system, it's the winning with a strategy of my choosing. Or something like that.

On the plus side, the graphics are going to be amazing. and with a PC release, there could always be mods that'll do...something. Okay, my optimism is running a bit dry now.