Hacking Error Code 002-0102, Have I been banned?

[eggsample]

Wait. If it's MAC ban than why not change address. OK, it's probably not as simple as I think.
Q: Is ittrue that MAC address is written to WiFi PCB?

If so why not to change PCB?

 

[gamesquest1]

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but if Nintendo ends up banning all flash card users from online play, hope is not yet lost! Thread about 3DS tunneling. There may come a time when research into this is necessary.

3ds tunneling will likely be pretty hard to achieve, i was doing some testing with someone a while back before gateway even had online support, and we could see each other in game, but once we tried to do any sort of trade/battle etc (we where testing on pokemon & mario kart 7) basically the 3DS will shift channels randomly making any sort of properly synchronized packet tunneling quite hard to achieve......plus i doubt there would be many people really bothered setting it all up....only thing that would really come of it is per-organised events/trading, i doubt there would be many people doing random races/battles etc

Wait. If it's MAC ban than why not change address. OK, it's probably not as simple as I think.
Q: Is ittrue that MAC address is written to WiFi PCB?

If so why not to change PCB?

yeah someone who was banned has already ordered a new wifi card.....but im fairly sure its going to be a console serial ban

 

[GameSystem]

3ds tunneling will likely be pretty hard to achieve, i was doing some testing with someone a while back before gateway even had online support, and we could see each other in game, but once we tried to do any sort of trade/battle etc (we where testing on pokemon & mario kart 7) basically the 3DS will shift channels randomly making any sort of properly synchronized packet tunneling quite hard to achieve......plus i doubt there would be many people really bothered setting it all up....only thing that would really come of it is per-organised events/trading, i doubt there would be many people doing random races/battles etc

yeah someone who was banned has already ordered a new wifi card.....but im fairly sure its going to be a console serial ban

I only brought it up as a last resort option in case online play with pirated games is no longer is possible. I'm actually surprised someone read my post.
As per the new wifi card, I'm quite interested in hearing what comes of that. If it doesn't work, we can at least strike it off the list of possibilities.

 

[itsamario2015]

yeah someone who was banned has already ordered a new wifi card.....but im fairly sure its going to be a console serial ban

No matter what it is, it can be spoofed with modified emunand... Whatever its checking, MAC, serial, some other ID - its all being reported from a method of the firmware, which can be modified to report back a different (unbanned) console's serial / MAC / w/e.

 

[gamesquest1]

No matter what it is, it can be spoofed with modified emunand... Whatever its checking, MAC, serial, some other ID - its all being reported from a method of the firmware, which can be modified to report back a different (unbanned) console's serial / MAC / w/e.

yeah, but then comes the question of sourcing unbanned donor info.....eventually these things start to dry up, and whats the point if nintendo crank up the banning rates, like unbanning your 360, on a jtag, yeah its possible, but you just get banned again

maybe once we know their criteria of banning and if they give up banning maybe it would be worth it.....but currently all you would be doing is burining up console ID's (well i suppose you could give it another shot and stick to private headers only)

IF the serial is all they are checking, and there is no other way of cross referencing that the serial being used is on the correct console, then it would be a much bigger problem for nintendo as spoofing to random serials could be done which would just result in random users being banned

 

[itsamario2015]

There are all kinds of ifs, ands, and whatevers as well as plenty we don't know. I'm just speaking on the current state of affairs.

 

[Ericzander]

Just something to note, it's been 3 days or so with no more reports.

 

[HideoshiKaze]

Just something to note, it's been 3 days or so with no more reports.

I think that's because no one is playing online atm.

I'm glad I looked this up before I went online with my N3DS with smash bros backup = /

Still trying to figure out how to get private headers and all that stuff to work online without too much fear.

I have one year warranty through gamestop as well, so if anything happens I can just swap it out.

 

[Platinum Lucario]

IF the serial is all they are checking, and there is no other way of cross referencing that the serial being used is on the correct console, then it would be a much bigger problem for nintendo as spoofing to random serials could be done which would just result in random users being banned

Thing is, Nintendo could very easily implement a list of all the console IDs, in the same way that computer software stores their product keys on a server and then keeps track of them to see if one has already been used, or if the key doesn't match any of the keys on the server in which would then reject it if the user tried to put in a random letters and numbers as a product key.

It's either that, or Nintendo is doing a Friend Code ban, in which bans the Friend Code that is registered on the Nintendo 3DS. But I highly doubt it though, since a console ID is more than likely, since they're used on both 3DS and Wii U in the hardware SOC. I'd assume that a console ID is actually different from a serial number, I would assume it's a huge line of hexadecimal values (probably two or three lines) stored inside the SOC.

So even if we did spoof the serial number or console ID in the SOC, Nintendo would learn from it and upgrade the software on their server to include the whole list of console IDs from what they've manufactured (and of course, who wouldn't keep a list of all the IDs of everything that is manufactured).

I have one year warranty through gamestop as well, so if anything happens I can just swap it out.

Warranty is already voided as soon as you use "unauthorised" software.

 

[HideoshiKaze]

Thing is, Nintendo could very easily implement a list of all the console IDs, in the same way that computer software stores their product keys on a server and then keeps track of them to see if one has already been used, or if the key doesn't match any of the keys on the server in which would then reject it if the user tried to put in a random letters and numbers as a product key.

It's either that, or Nintendo is doing a Friend Code ban, in which bans the Friend Code that is registered on the Nintendo 3DS. But I highly doubt it though, since a console ID is more than likely, since they're used on both 3DS and Wii U in the hardware SOC. I'd assume that a console ID is actually different from a serial number, I would assume it's a huge line of hexadecimal values (probably two or three lines) stored inside the SOC.

So even if we did spoof the serial number or console ID in the SOC, Nintendo would learn from it and upgrade the software on their server to include the whole list of console IDs from what they've manufactured (and of course, who wouldn't keep a list of all the IDs of everything that is manufactured).


Warranty is already voided as soon as you use "unauthorised" software.

Well obviously I won't tell them I used SKY3DS or anything xD. I'll just tell them I can't get online and bring one of my physical games like smash bros to show them. The whole thing with nintendo banning people isn't official, so I'm sure gamestop won't know about it up here.

 

[YourHero]

It isn't a friend code ban because reformatting the system gives a new friendcode and that didn't solve the issue.

 

[Platinum Lucario]

Just a question, has anyone that has already been banned been able to do a system transfer? I'd just like to know if it's possible to do so while the console is banned from Nintendo Network. 'Cause I'm not sure if we have confirmed if it's possible or impossible.

 

[itsamario2015]

Thing is, Nintendo could very easily implement a list of all the console IDs, in the same way that computer software stores their product keys on a server and then keeps track of them to see if one has already been used, or if the key doesn't match any of the keys on the server in which would then reject it if the user tried to put in a random letters and numbers as a product key..

No matter what it is, it can be spoofed with modified emunand... Whatever its checking, MAC, serial, some other ID - its all being reported from a method of the firmware, which can be modified to report back a different (unbanned) console's serial / MAC / w/e.

yeah, but then comes the question of sourcing unbanned donor info.....eventually these things start to dry up, and whats the point if nintendo crank up the banning rates, like unbanning your 360, on a jtag, yeah its possible, but you just get banned again

No one said anything about using randomly generated information...

 

[Nephiel]

No one said anything about using randomly generated information...

Even if we managed to do this, it would not work. The NNID and the digital content are tied to the console. If you change the console ID, the NNID will no longer be usable.

Suppose we find a way to change the ID of a console. That new ID could just get banned again. And if we found a way to generate a random ID every time the console goes online, wouldn't Nintendo wonder why we appear to be connecting from a different console every time?

 

[itsamario2015]

No one said anything about preservation of NNID, that is something that could easily be detected by Nintendo. As far as your contention "oh well you'll just get banned again", people used this method to avoid MS bans it worked for years.

Yes, you "could" get banned again... depending on if they keep adding new detections, and what kind. There is no guaranteed method for never getting caught or banned ever, this is simply a statement that whatever methods of banning and detection they are using currently, if any, can be bypassed.

 

[HideoshiKaze]

So only 15 people that are "known" to have been banned?

I'm surprised all the thousands of others who hasn't done their research haven't already = /

 

[RoDryBones]

I played once Super Street Fighter 4 online 2 weeks ago and now I'm donwloading the daily puzzles for Layton games just fine with a public header. Update 9.5 and Sky3ds.
I better be starting to pray.

 

[Thomas12345]

So only 15 people that are "known" to have been banned?

I'm surprised all the thousands of others who hasn't done their research haven't already = /

Yeah it's really odd that so few are being banned... you'd think with all the ppl using public headers, there'd be a lot more bans

maybe Nintendo just wants to scare us

 

[chipposhiva]

It's pretty obvious by reading the list that it has affair with pokemon, and above 9.4.

But what if it's an other thing like the update requires for pokemon, maybe that's here nintendo see something.

And finally if it's totally not what we think but maybe the numbers of games load in a short time like on sky3ds we can switch a lot of rom and each verify if it has update ?

Nobody switch 30 games in a row physically in short time.

That would explain why some continue to play pokemon with no ban on sky if they turn wifi on just to play one game.

 

[Ericss]

He can't download the update if he's game is not EU, the eShop doesn't direct him.

Sure he can, by going to the eShop and searching for the download.

tony8690, have you tried this?

Even if we managed to do this, it would not work. The NNID and the digital content are tied to the console. If you change the console ID, the NNID will no longer be usable.

You could always set up an alternate, NNID-less emuNAND for going online.