DSi's "Operating System is bullshit"

[xgbz]

The best handheld is the game child

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yes i like this

 

[Veho]

The best handheld is the game child

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I love how LCD games could only add content by filling up spaces between other sprites, so you ended up with tesselation that would make Escher proud.

 

[Latiodile]

The best handheld is the game child

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a youtuber made a movie about that one once, never watched it so idk if it's good or not, "quest for the game child" by ashens

 

[CoolMe]

The best handheld is the game child

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that football/soccer game looks much better than anything ea/fc has put out in years

 

[CoolMe]

Greatest handheld of all time my ass.

we already knew your ass was hand-held you didn't have to boast about it

 

[SylverReZ]

that football/soccer game looks much better than anything ea/fc has put out in years

10/10 best gameplay - IGN

 

[handy333]

I love how LCD games could only add content by filling up spaces between other sprites, so you ended up with tesselation that would make Escher proud.

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Good ol Game and Watch

 

[sexually_inactive]

The DSi only got hacked well after its EOL. Nintendo won the battle.

 

[sexually_inactive]

It had a software exploit back in the day but not many people could take advantage of it.

Actually, what is this software exploit? I haven't heard of it before and thought the most you could do until the last few years is run flash carts in DS mode.

 

[Veho]

Good ol Game and Watch

Game and Watch actually had pretty simple screens compared to some other games.

Donkey Kong:

Batman Forever:

Mario Bros.

Battle Arena Toshinden:

 

[Veho]

SPACE JAM!

 

[handy333]

Yeah. I remember those tiger electronic games like goosebumps and terminator were pretty detailed.

 

[K3Nv4]

People liked Blackberry OS 17 years ago, DSi was innovative hardware with dual screen capabilities. People honestly cared less about os and just wanted things to work. For the most part it usually did. We never expected smartphones to kill off palm pilots.

 

[CoolMe]

10/10 best gameplay - IGN

epilepsy speedrun kit

 

[DinohScene]

Actually, what is this software exploit? I haven't heard of it before and thought the most you could do until the last few years is run flash carts in DS mode.

DSiware exploit.

Fieldhaxx, Exidiahaxx & Sudokuhaxx iirc.

 

[bonkmaykr]

it's really easy to find vulnerabilities on it, like the PIT.BIN exploit and unlaunch's boot code exploit

Even if your security is horrendous by today's standards it still requires a certain level of understanding and careful study to uncover flaws. There is no such thing as an "easy vulnerability" when we're talking about (publicly) undocumented internals.

i guess here it's not an bullshit anymore.... because to install homebrew apps it's not easy as expected you need Unlaunch's patches or an CFW, but thanks to nocash and @Pk11 is possible install DSi Titles on the DSi Menu (only with unlaucnh patches) that's my opinion on the DSi OS

It sounds a lot to me like you are judging solely based on user experience provided to you by people who have already split the security wide open without yourself having an understanding of how it actually works.

because it doesn't have an kernel on it

And...? It's a game console with a tight ecosystem, from almost two decades ago (cheap, battery-limited, thermally-constrained mobile chips in 2008 were... less advanced! crazy concept right), and this was only right at the start of when everything was trying to be the home media center or PDA replacement, so I don't think it was too unreasonable that Nintendo did not want to develop an elaborate operating system beyond the bare requirement to delay piracy.

A lot of basic security common at the supervisor level is dependent on a hardware implementation to remain reliable and performant. This is portable hardware, intended to be cheap too, so you can imagine what corners had to be cut... (i could not find information on if the DSi had a hardware MMU, some ARM9 CPUs embed one but not all). You have to remember the Game Boy Advance was even more primitive software-side and even lacked good dedicated sound hardware as late as 2001 (mixing was CPU driven). More powerful home consoles which arguably had no excuse were pretty behind in software security too until the 7th generation when online play became a common focal point. This sort of thing was expected.

Home computers before Y2K primarily ran systems not built for security either, and they were WAY more wide open for attacks than any game console post-2600 would be. At that time, Windows users still had not moved to NT yet, this was pre NeXT-MacOS merge so MacOS was total horse shit, and if you had an Amiga still you were running everything in the kernel.

So, for a much less powerful handheld released only the next decade to not have cutting edge security is not that crazy. This isn't for lack of trying, Nintendo had a dedicated "DS mode" to close off previously discovered entry points.

The truth is that before the 2010s when everyone decided they wanted to be a chronically online esports celebrity, a game developer did not care what security existed on a console, only the publisher and Nintendo's licensing team, and only because it affected their sales. Think of it from Nintendo's perspective: you probably weren't getting your bank details stolen from a DS of all things (this kind of poor foresight ended up with a New Leaf hack later on the 3DS that was actually used for this but that's a story for another day). In hindsight this was all a ticking time bomb but when you consider the historical context Nintendo did a relatively typical job for the time.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

a youtuber made a movie about that one once, never watched it so idk if it's good or not, "quest for the game child" by ashens

It's decent. Better than the AVGN movie.

 

[CoolMe]

It's decent. Better than the AVGN movie.

death mothsex agrees