DSi Mode

Discussion in 'NDS - Console and Game Discussions' started by Nasedase, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. Nasedase
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    Can you play games that use DSi features from a Flashcart yet?

    I have an M3i Zero.
     
  2. tj_cool

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    If anything changes you'll know about it.
     
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  5. eggsample

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    All Ya can NOW withe wood 1.05 & R4

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  6. naglaro00

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    uhm... what?

    I suppose what you mean is "yes" but nope.
     
  7. Hells Malice

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  8. Langin

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    Well I know someone who is working on a dsi exploit but no one except me believes him!



    CRAP POST NO. 1000!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Crazy-S

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    why couldnt we use the enhanced Ram of the Iplayer to play in DSi mode?
     
  10. ProtoKun7

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    Because more RAM ? DSi mode.

    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
  11. Crazy-S

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    sure U R right but now look at Korg DS 10 Plus it just uses the Extra Ram why couldnt we manage that this rom is taking the ram from the Cart and not from the DSi itself?
     
  12. tk_saturn

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    Feel free to get coding and post a solution if it's that easy.
     
  13. Crazy-S

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    i didnt say that its so easy but there are plenty of coders saying they work on the DSi mode but there are no signs if there really working on it and that makes me angry
    so where are you coders?
     
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    It's not their responsibility to tell everyone everything they try. If they don't make any progress worth reporting, they don't have to.
     
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    Check Hackmii.com for updates may soon be one, btw congrats on 1,000 post.
     
  16. YayMii

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    Just to let you know (Crazy-S), DSi Mode also has WPA, WPA2, WPS, and Wireless G support, along with access to the internal memory and SD card slot.
     
  17. Rydian

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    I present to you: "DSi Encryption Put In Perspective", also known as "I Love Crushing People's Dreams".

    The DSi uses 128-bit encryption (IIRC).
    How do you break it? You find the correct encryption key.

    How many encryption keys are there? 2 (binary, a bit) to the 128th power (number of bits).
    That's so many that the calculator that comes with windows (at least XP) can't even display the number without reverting to scientific notation.

    64-bit? 18,889,465,931,478,580,854,784 keys.
    70-bit? 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 keys.
    86-bit? 79,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,336 keys.
    Add a bit and you double the previous number, it's called "exponential" growth.

    128-bits is...
    340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible keys.

    The actual number is a bit less less since a key will be a certain number of digits and be designed to not have repeating segments, but this puts it in perspective.

    Even if I remember incorrectly and DSi uses 64-bit encryption, that's still a god-awful number (18 sextillion, I think the name is) of possible keys to try.

    Let's say that you have a computer program which can try 50,000 keys a second.
    That's 3,000,000 keys a minute.
    180,000,000 keys in an hour.
    4,320,000,000 keys a day.
    1,576,800,000,000 keys in one year.

    It would take 215,805,661,416,120,283,779,410,583 years to try all the keys at that speed.

    So wait, how do they break other systems? If you can get a direct copy of the encrypted data and compare it to a copy of the unencrypted data (as well as view the data as it's transmitted around the DSi's internals), that goes a long way towards figuring out the key without having to try all possible combinations. You'll be able to find the key without all the guessing! The problem is you'd need to take a DSi apart and fuck with it's insides while it's on to try to get a copy of the data while it's unencrypted (since the DSi will unencrypt what it needs on the fly in order to use it), and usually when you're done with that the DSi's pretty broken and in no shape to game, or even to be experimented on a second time...
    [​IMG]

    This process can be hampered by the internal design of the system, so you may need to take apart many systems before you even figure out how to read some of the data, let alone get a full copy of it, and last I checked DSi's don't cost $5...

    EDIT: Updated the math to be more precise.
     
  18. WarazX

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    Im sure there will be a big announcement if there was tobe a change to this.
     
  19. Shinintendo

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    Rydian Explained it the best :X It's crazy!
    Hopefully ppl working on it and making some progress, I own a DSI and wish to use the DSI features...