Homebrew ds cart emulation possability?

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urherenow said:
It was an example. Snes, NES, etc... All emulated. Most GBA stuff can't be seen in the store, but it is there. I can go to the redownloadable software section and download it (I legitimately own all ambassador games).

Look. I know it won't be done. But that should be the only answer. Saying it CAN'T is just false.

@tivu100 you need complete understanding of both arm9 and arm11. There *are* issues with code allignment between the two, but you can configure the arm11 to handle things like the arm9. That's where HLE comes in. So you also need to know how to write a high level emulator.
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And emulating DS games is entirely different than emulating older games. I never said emulation itself wasn't possible. I said reliably emulating the DS wasn't. I'm not even saying you can't Make a DS emulator. I am saying the power is not there to make a good one, you know, one that can actually run games.

It's not a code issue it's a power issue. There just isn't enough. The 3DS would have to run its own processes to keep what is there available as well as emulate a completely different system. Emulation is a very resource intensive process. Even some low end Pcs much more powerful than a 3DS struggle to emulate a DS properly.

And quite frankly it would take more work than someone is willing to invest because it's unnecessary in the current environment.
 
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urherenow said:
It was an example. Snes, NES, etc... All emulated. Most GBA stuff can't be seen in the store, but it is there. I can go to the redownloadable software section and download it (I legitimately own all ambassador games).

Look. I know it won't be done. But that should be the only answer. Saying it CAN'T is just false.

@tivu100 you need complete understanding of both arm9 and arm11. There *are* issues with code allignment between the two, but you can configure the arm11 to handle things like the arm9. That's where HLE comes in. So you also need to know how to write a high level emulator.
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Ontopic: I feel like DS emulation is one of those "nice to have but not really needed" kinda things. I mean 60% of the people on here probably already have a flashcart from back in the day and another 30% have gateway (blue card is a DS flashcart) so very few people are probably in the OPs situation.

offtopic(again): Is if flashcart or flashcard? I've seen both terms used and I've never figured it out lol
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I don't have technical background, but a quick Google reveals what @urherenow responded to me to enable DS ROM loader on 3DS would a programmer be efficient to programming, have solid understanding of operating system, embedded system thus programming ARM! No wonder reputable developers in the scene don't want to waste time on it.

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And emulating DS games is entirely different than emulating older games. I never said emulation itself wasn't possible. I said reliably emulating the DS wasn't. I'm not even saying you can't Make a DS emulator. I am saying the power is not there to make a good one, you know, one that can actually run games.

It's not a code issue it's a power issue. There just isn't enough. The 3DS would have to run its own processes to keep what is there available as well as emulate a completely different system. Emulation is a very resource intensive process. Even some low end Pcs much more powerful than a 3DS struggle to emulate a DS properly.

And quite frankly it would take more work than someone is willing to invest because it's unnecessary in the current environment.
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You didn't read what other wrote? 3DS doesn't need to emulating DS from the ground up. 3DS has the hardware to run DS natively.
 
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tivu100 said:
I don't have technical background, but a quick Google reveals what @urherenow responded to me to enable DS ROM loader on 3DS would a programmer be efficient to programming, have solid understanding of operating system, embedded system thus programming ARM! No wonder reputable developers in the scene don't want to waste time on it.



You didn't read what other wrote? 3DS doesn't need to emulating DS from the ground up. 3DS has the hardware to run DS natively.
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Them you are not emulating, your are bridging which is exactly what Nintendont does, and as I said, that would be the most viable option.
 
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well how does the 3ds boot into ds mode you might be bale to inject a rom into dsdownload play you could inject the ds rom into dsdownload play and once you click ds on ds download play it would boot the game
 
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also you can do gba injection and the gba vc uses gba firmware so its no emulated and it can load game off sd card it is possible for ds then
 
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hacksn5s4 said:
also you can do gba injection and the gba vc uses gba firmware so its no emulated and it can load game off sd card it is possible for ds then
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Once nintendo releases a NDS virtual console game, then we can inject new roms into that.
But, until that day, people have to buy a $10 flashcard.
 
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Can it necessarily not be done? Or does no one just want to do it?
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No one has tried to create it yet. That is because most of the older hackers have success in buying DS carts from bad sites. I recently tried to buy a DSTWO and an hour later the bank was telling me that someone from Oregon had used $267 dollars from my bank account. I tried again thinking maybe it was a coincidence or something, I went to buy a Gateway card and again, someone used my credit card out of my state. Then there's the fact that Nintendo can easily block Ds carts and they only work on 9.2. I also find that the excuse of "DS emulation won't work because it can't use the SD card" is ruled out because it's been done on a computer. There really shouldn't be ANY excuses since no one has ACTUALLY taken the time to research and design a DS emulation app. If you have any rants about that, you need to have proof that you actually did it or not. Thanks :)

There are many things that have been done. 3DS pirating, 3DS hacking, full on WiiU Exploits to kernel, DS save game backup-er on 3ds, Windows 95 on N3DS, PSX emulation and all emulation which started at GBATemp. So there is no reason why we should be sitting here, we could be off into the making of something great! GBATemp I believe was supposed to bring us together to create great things! So we have the capability of doing it, we just need to be invested into it and love what we do :D
 
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So you want a DS emulator or DS Cart emulator?
Most likely neither will be made but IIRC it's possible.
 
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