I am interested to proceed with the development of DM and DML.
If the money you payed is really what people are saying here, you will need a lot of fund raisers to become even.
What prove can you deliver that you actually own the sources now? I mean, I could tell that as well.
Also, will I need to pay to be able to continue the programming? It's the world upside down. If I do programming for buisiness,
I get paid for it, not the other way around. I don't mind doing stuff for free if it's in my interest zone, but paying for it...
It's pretty complicated stuff, even for the end user to get a working setup. This limits the number of enthousiasts a bit.
I hope you don't mind me being a little sceptical. As always, I am open for comment.

 

Makes more sense.

Maybe it could work with a test version that works for a limited amount of time.
If the end users find it usefull, they can get the unlimited version for a small fee.
And they get all further updates like 1 year for free.

They don't pay for the program itself, but for the support that is given to make it work on their system.

Or you need to find some advertisers, and put their stuff in the startup of the free version.
That way, nobody should complain about it. (They will anyhow.)

Just some ideas. You probably have more already than I do.

 

I don't know exactly how audio playing is handeled in the wii, but most implementations I have seen play audio using dma and transferring the audio buffer that way without intervention of the processor. When the buffer has finished playing, an interrupt is generated to tell the program to fill the buffer with new audio data. Reading data from a media synchronously or asynchronously doesn't make much of a difference. As long as the data you need hasn't been read, you can't continue. Writing data is different, as that can happen in the background. Writing data to flash media like sd cards is also more time consuming than reading. When you play a game, besides gamesaves, there is not much to write.

I am just trying to say that the sd issue could be more complex than just async / sync reading.
Audio glitches can occur when the interrupt is disabled to long so that the playing buffer becomes empty and no new data is available.
The glitches seem to appear less frequent with a fast sd card. Maybe there is room for improvment to the sd card driver.

The idea to release only when enough money came in doesn't make sense either.
You will have plenty of people that donate without knowing for sure that the final goal will ever be reached.
What will you do if the goal isn't reached? refund those people?
And how are they suposed to know that the product they donate for is any good, if it hasn't been released yet.

 

and who says crediar sold sven's code?

 

but you run up to sven and implied to him that crediar sold his code.

 

Hmm, i was under the impression Crediar used the sdhc code from BootMii or some other puplic source. And then he got Sven's permission to release his DML as closed source, while the sdhc code is under GPL.

If Crediar got some sdhc code from Sven that's not puplic, then this project has a big problem. And if that's the case, tell that and explain it. I expect you to know how it is, and your post leaves that wide open.

 

So you don't know if there is a problem, only that there might be one. Does anybody have the BootMii source so G0dLiKe can compare the code? One part of the source for BootMii is missing, that i know, but i think it's the code for the BootMii GUI. And the code that runs on ARM and loads the ppc.dol from sd is part of the released source.

 

sneek contains sdhc code as well.
As it's also a creation from Crediar, it wouldn't suprise me that he used that for his DML and NMM as well.
It's probably very similar to the mini sdhc implementation used in bootmii.

As far as I know, he might have sold his sources without the sdhc.c, with the message to get that file from the sneek source chain.

It makes the final product gpl, but for the rest he isn't doing something wrong. He just sold his sources.

I don't know the exact legal aspect of it, but who will start a case?
The question I am asking is, what is the purpose of this discussion?

 

Thanks for all your thoughts guys, this will be a GPL release for sure, I was thinking of giving devs access to the source, private googlecode seems to be a good platform to start off.

Donations part is expected to work like Cyan said, also a good idea would be with the time limit like obcd mentioned, a small fee for the final product and support, sounds great.

Other than that, 2 devs on board atm, time to get started, I´m gonna set up a private googlecode for this asap.

Thanks for reading.