Hacking DIOS MIOS! GC ISO Loader proof of concept (Starfox Assault)

[B-Blue]

WODE FTMFW

 

[ignance]

From what I gather in the Q&A, this is definitely not for the person looking to play backups he already has, but rather for the person willing to make backups with the games they currently have.
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but I really am just looking to re-live the games that I had stolen from me a few years back. I don't want to go out and buy them all over again, and I really don't like having a ton of disks around. All of my Wii games that I legitimately purchased I backed up to a USB hard drive. I have so few GC games now, and I'm grateful that homebrew has made my Wii region free so I can enjoy all four of them. If what DIOS MIOS is telling me is "You can enjoy half of them, better go buy more," then I'm sorry, I don't know if this is the solution that many people are looking for.

That being said, congratulations on this fantastic achievement! I'm certain many people will enjoy this.

 

[Taleweaver]

It requires of ton of over head, has several flaws including sound related issues, and isn't going to be overly developed.
Really? From the Q&A, I gather that the streaming audio issue is the only issue
EDIT: that should of course be "the only KNOWN issue". With 1 man being both developer and tester, it's hard to say whether everything will really work out like it should.

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QUOTEWhat's the current compatiblity?
Basically most games work that I’ve tried, those audio streaming games are not working correctly though.

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@B-Blue: erm...I don't know if you're familiar with the WODE, but it also has issues with streaming audio games. I don't know much of the details, but it wouldn't surprise me if the wode team stumbled upon the very same problem.

(oh, and "issue" may sound like it's a major deal...but not all gamecube games use streaming audio, and even the ones that do still have some sound)

EDIT2: found a link with the details of the WODE "issue": click me. Es emu_kidid pointed out, only about 30 games are affected, of which about 5 are popular. So if the sound issue is the same one as with dios mios, it's not exactly the end of the world.

 

[VashTS]

maybe the games can be patched somehow to get around streaming audio? i don't know i'm just guessing.

 

[Helsionium]

maybe the games can be patched somehow to get around streaming audio? i don't know i'm just guessing.

No, patching the games won't do anything. The issue is similar to the CD streaming issue in early PC CD drives - the sound data is directly fed from the disc drive to the sound card (DSP in GameCube/Wii). Obviously, when not reading with a real drive, this can not work. The patch necessary for this to work would be similar, if not much more complicated, than the patches required for GameCube USB loading in the first place. Crediar announced he has no plans of working on such a patch, though.

 

[WiiPower]

maybe the games can be patched somehow to get around streaming audio? i don't know i'm just guessing.

Actually i assume they are already patched to get around the streaming audio. If they weren't you would get an error and the game wouldn't be playable at all. 100% audio streaming support would require some hardware modification as the drive directly sends data to the audio processor. Currently there's no such hardware solution that i know of, excecpt some of the better modchips that support audio steaming on discs. Theoretically it should be possible to to solve this by software, but i doubt it will ever be done. It's as compilcated as the whole DIOS MIOS project including usb loading, or even more complicated.

 

[crwys]

Am I one of the lucky ones since I have a D2Pro9 modchip?
http://www.d2pro.com/features.html

Streaming audio-fix for Gamecube games

 

[Helsionium]

Apparently, yes. But this doesn't affect DIOS MIOS in any way, it still won't be able to stream audio on your system, because it doesn't use the modchip (I guess you might know that already, but who knows...)

 

[MushGuy]

Judging by those restrictions, this loader will be likely to suck, and if he's not releasing it as open source, at least he better release the source so that someone can do it better.

 

[coolmission]

he better release the source so that someone can do it better.

Or else what?

I honestly hope he reconsiders and doesn't release anything at all.

 

[Tonitonichopchop]

I honestly am just glad it's possible. It won't be too hard for me to get legitimate gamecube games. Just go to gamestop, buy a bunch, dump them, then take them back for a refund. Easy.

 

[SFenton]

I wondered why it took so long for someone to think of that.

 

[hughjass]

In the UK though basically NOWHERE sells GC games anymore, so ebay is the main option, and returning games on ebay is not quite as easy...

...not that I give a crap, as I have half of the games I like already, and I'm quite happy to buy the others

 

[Mid123]

he better release the source so that someone can do it better.

Or else what?

I honestly hope he reconsiders and doesn't release anything at all.

why?

 

[tj_cool]

Judging by those restrictions, this loader will be likely to suck, and if he's not releasing it as open source, at least he better release the source so that someone can do it better.

It was already confirmed that it won't be open source (see second last question here)
Also, restrictions don't make a certain something suck. Maybe not everyone will like it, but you can't do anything about that.

 

[crwys]

I honestly am just glad it's possible. It won't be too hard for me to get legitimate gamecube games. Just go to gamestop, buy a bunch, dump them, then take them back for a refund. Easy.

Exactly. Crediar thinks he is stopping or preventing piracy, but no matter what, he is not.

 

[tueidj]

Exactly. Crediar thinks he is stopping or preventing piracy, but no matter what, he is not.

Or maybe he doesn't want to enable it in the first place. There's a difference between selling someone a loaded gun and selling them a gun and ammo separately.

 

[LufianGuy]

Whats the point of making this if it only loads official discs, the wii already does that.

I'm sure someone will break this down and take the AP out of it.

I like crediar and preloader, but I agree with all my friends who are saying he made something useless here.

 

[megazig]

people bitch that they want a backup loader, then when they have a chance to get one they show their true colors.

it's not a backup loader that they want, it's a warez loader. in that case, it seems like all you outraged people should get together and program your own. his code, his rules.

also, anyone thinking that the AP will be cracked, there's plenty of wii things that haven't been.

 

[smf]

it's not a backup loader that they want, it's a warez loader. in that case, it seems like all you outraged people should get together and program your own. his code, his rules.

Actually I want a backup loader & I want the source to be released so it can be merged in with other loaders.