PS1/2 Another PS3 JOKE from Sony!?

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Who's getting a PS3 ?
You? (*points finger*) You ?

Read this...
LATimes said:
Sony Corp. has patented technology that would prevent its PlayStation consoles from playing used, rented or borrowed video games — raising questions about whether the electronics and entertainment giant may attempt to redefine what it means to own something in the digital age.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sony...ack=1&cset=true
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This is old news but I don't recall reading any topic about this.
Anyway, what would this mean?
• No renting
• No second-hand games
• No borrowing or lending
• If you have two PS3 at home, one for your brother & one for you (that will probably not happen due to the price of the PS3) you have to buy all games twice, one for each console!

WOOOHOOO!



Are YOU (*points finger*) still buying a PS3?
Please tell me Sony are NOT GOING TO USE THIS TECHNOLOGY!
 

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Omg is this for real!?
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Ahahahahahha that's hilarious!
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I think sony's losing it...I mean come on what's up with that?!
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I have been a big Sony buyer in my life, Everything is Sony from my 2 Plasmas, my Reciever, my 3 Monitors, 4 Sony DVD players, the list can go on and on....however they lost me on the MP3 war due to their "technology" ....even though everyone was like "don't get their stereo equipment its not worth the grand I spent...I WAS loyal...I am done...the company's ego and buisness habits are too much. I won't be getting a PS3 and this is the first time in ....shit I think ever...I have owned every system since the NES days and won't be getting a PS3 even if FF7 gets remade. I'd done with the company and its time to find a new comany to supply me with all my digital needs. I plan on RENTING WII games just like I rent a lot of 360 games....Sony lost my $600 a long time ago.
 

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QUOTE said:
Furor Over Sony Patent
Technology that could prevent resale of games and other digital goods raises speculation, fears.
By Dawn C. Chmielewski, Times Staff Writer
July 10, 2006

Journalists, you are not.
 

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700 euros for a console (in Finland at least) and you can't even buy used games? Sony's target demographic appears to be Bill Gates and since he already has a 360 I don't think PS3 will do so good.
 

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I heard it was partially true....meaning you can rent games....just can't take them online
I've never heard that, and I followed this rumor like a hawk. And I'm gunna have to say thats false. Because Sony said ""PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console" which would mean I could line up 5 PS3's and play it on everyone just like the last. There is no licensing system, and online downloads can even be transfered to other PS3's under your login name.
 

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I heard about this months ago. Something to do with an advanced DNAS. This would instantly kill sony in the console market. A lot of the games shops make loads of money from second hand games, they don't have to sell sony products. Sony thinking of doing something like this is anti piracy got OTT. I think now they've decided that their still doing something similar but allowing the game to be played so many times on different consoles.
 

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I heard about this months ago. Something to do with an advanced DNAS. This would instantly kill sony in the console market. A lot of the games shops make loads of money from second hand games, they don't have to sell sony products. Sony thinking of doing something like this is anti piracy got OTT. I think now they've decided that their still doing something similar but allowing the game to be played so many times on different consoles.
Its not going to be any different than renting/borrowing a PS2 game. The patent is old. Ps1 old. They already said its false that it will be used in the PS3. Read the earlier posts. Although, nothing stops them from putting it in the PS4 :\
 

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QUOTE said:
While US Sony reps think the best way to deal with gossip is silence, Sony Europe spokespersons have apparently decided to put this particular rumor to rest. According to the London Guardian's
tech blog, SCEE PR manger Jennie Kong blasted the rumor as " false speculation." "PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console," she told the Guardian

LOL well it's hard to know who to trust when Sony I don't think has said anything official minus one lady From SCEE but I think I read the (You can play used games but not online article at maxconsoles...could have been filed under rumour but again it would be nice to read an official report stating this is a. False and B. the concept will never be implemented. IF I remeber right there was a war between DVD and a concept called DivX which I believe was backed by a company called Sony. The original Idea was that you can buy a DivX movie for as cheap as 5 dollars and only play it 1 time..or within a 24 hour period then the disc would be garbage. This kind of digital media control and the purposed concept of locking a game to the console just seems...tyant like...they want to make it more of a hassle to play your media then it should be worth.
 

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Because I know a lot of people can't be arsed :

QUOTE said:
Sony Corp. has patented technology that would prevent its PlayStation consoles from playing used, rented or borrowed video games — raising questions about whether the electronics and entertainment giant may attempt to redefine what it means to own something in the digital age.

Sony has said little about the technology, patented in Japan in 2000, or how it might be deployed. But speculation over Sony's plans has sparked a furor online as game fans and consumer advocates fret that the company may incorporate it into the upcoming PlayStation 3 console, due to hit stores this fall.

They worry that it would wipe out the $1-billion-a-year market for used games and could even prevent someone from playing their games at a friend's house.

It is not unusual for technology companies to patent innovations and then never incorporate them into products.

Documents filed in April 2000 with the U.S. Patent Office describe a method of copy protection by which the game system would verify a disc as legitimate, register the disc to that particular game console, then wipe out verification data so the disc would be rendered unreadable in other PlayStations.

"Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end user becomes practically impossible," according to the patent documents.

Although Sony has been vague about its plans for the technology, "I actually think they're toying with this idea," said Michael Pachter, a game industry analyst for Wedbush Morgan Securities.

Pachter said he thought Sony probably would not tighten the software locks on PlayStation 3 games but might employ bolstered copy protection on other forms of entertainment downloaded to the console over the Internet.

"Maybe they'll copy protect movies or music downloads," he said.

Whatever Sony's plans, the tempest illustrates the changing nature of ownership as millions of people accumulate vast collections of digital entertainment. Few people realize that when they buy software, music or movies, they are actually buying a license to use, listen or watch.

That's why it violates copyright laws for people to sell copies of their music collection.

Sony was attacked this year for including software on some of its music CDs that surreptitiously installed itself on computers playing the disc. The software was intended to prevent unauthorized copying. Sony later apologized.

Taking that sort of copy protection one step further would be, in the words of one analyst, "crazy."

"What does Sony get from that?" said John Taylor of Arcadia Investment Corp. "Sony gets a black eye. It doesn't make sense to me."

Several analysts said the patent appeared to principally be aimed at deterring game piracy. Indeed, Sony's patent notes that through the complexity of its copy-protection scheme "manufacture of counterfeit software becomes extremely difficult."

And it's not unusual for technology companies such as Sony to register patents either in anticipation of one day collecting royalties from someone seeking to license the technology or to prevent someone else from deploying it.

"These are all things technologically possible to do in any computing device," said one cryptographer, who requested anonymity. "In the video game business, it would be suicide for someone to do this. It's actually possible Sony filed this because they wanted to keep people from doing that."

Nonetheless, online speculation that Sony would use technological or other means to ban the sale of used PlayStation 3 video games prompted one analyst, P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research, to study its potential effect on the industry.

"While we believe it is unlikely that SNE will ban PS3 pre-owned games from being sold by the same chains that sell new PS3 games, we believe this issue remains under consideration," McNealy wrote in a research note issued June 23.

McNealy estimated that game fans spent about $990 million buying used games, primarily from GameStop or through EBay. Much of that spending — about $620 million — is for used PlayStation 2 games.

Were Sony to ban the sale of used games for its next-generation PS3, the effect on independent video game publishers would be negligible, McNealy said.

Used-game sales are a growing source of irritation for game publishers, which receive no proceeds from the resale of games. Executives privately complain that cheaper secondhand games are available for sale shortly after a new game's release; publishers, which give retailers marketing money to promote games, end up competing with discounted versions of their own titles.

Major independent game publishers Electronic Arts Inc., Activision Inc. and THQ Inc. declined to comment.

Meanwhile, used games are a lucrative source of revenue for retailer GameStop, which began reporting pre-owned game sales after its acquisition of competitor EB. Last year, secondhand game sales accounted for $930 million in revenue and $418 million in profit. The profit margin was 45%, compared with 21% for new games, according to Arcadia Investment Corp.

Analysts say used-game sales contribute to the overall growth of the video game market, in the same way that the ability to trade in a used vehicle fuels the new-car market.

"A used-car market creates currency to buy new cars. Same with games. Everybody acknowledges that," Pachter said. "The problem is if the used game is available a week after the new game is out for a $5 discount."

The article is dated July 10, 2006.

I'd already heard about it and can only understand. I mean, it's Sony, after all, lol.

But if Nintendo did that as well? There would be a lot less purchases and a lot more roms in my collection. I buy a LOT of things used.
 

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