Hacking 3DS NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

[FromageSword]

So, you're telling me that instead of sending the current firmware of the console, it will send whatever firmware version the game is native and even so installed games won't send anything? I'm asking because I don't own any game that helps me jump from firmware 1.0 to superior versions and anyways if i just update, the game cartridge won't install the internet browser.

 

[wormdood]

So, you're telling me that instead of sending the current firmware of the console, it will send whatever firmware version the game is native and even so installed games won't send anything? I'm asking because I don't own any game that helps me jump from firmware 1.0 to superior versions and anyways if i just update, the game cartridge won't install the internet browser.

i do not know for a fact that it wont update at all as i have never seen a case where download play was the . . . middle man. . . .
but i have read that you cant use a rom at all to update i personally don't know how true that is
but for sure if you use a game to update it will only update you to the fw version required to play said game
and true any gamecard update will not update the browser . . . . so for cfw you will need a ds flashcard to install mset

 

[FromageSword]

http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Download_Play

If somebody could explain what does the last section of that page means, that would be enough for me to understand what really happens with download play update.

 

[wormdood]

http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Download_Play

If somebody could explain what does the last section of that page means, that would be enough for me to understand what really happens with download play update.

it means that you can indeed update from download play
but i am still not sure about the safety of updating from a rom that's the last peace of your puzzle

 

[FromageSword]

Mmm the thing is that I understand it as "We take your system version -the one the console is using- and we transfer it to another console as a System Update -which probably includes internet browser-" and you say me that it is a "We take the -game- native firmware and we transfer it to another console".

Let's say that the first and best scenario happens, the chances of either sysnand or emunand being sent is what really troubles me.

 

[Tony_93]

Mmm the thing is that I understand it as "We take your system version -the one the console is using- and we transfer it to another console as a System Update -which probably includes internet browser-" and you say me that it is a "We take the -game- native firmware and we transfer it to another console".

Let's say that the first and best scenario happens, the chances of either sysnand or emunand being sent is what really troubles me.

It would naturally send the one you are booted on.

 

[FromageSword]

So, you think that if I'm using emuNAND at ANY version superior to the firmware of that 1.0 console, it will update directly to it?. I wouldn't mind messing a bit with emuNAND to get it to say 4.5 or 5.1 -if possible- and customize the other O3DS, but that would only be possible if the Download Play system update install the main console running firmware + internet browser.

Updating the console is a only chance thing and I want to be 100% of how the process works. It really susprises me that it isn't a very well known issue becuase my search lead me to the previous link I posted and that's all.

 

[Tony_93]

So, you think that if I'm using emuNAND at ANY version superior to the firmware of that 1.0 console, it will update directly to it?. I wouldn't mind messing a bit with emuNAND to get it to say 4.5 or 5.1 -if possible- and customize the other O3DS, but that would only be possible if the Download Play system update install the main console running firmware + internet browser.

Updating the console is a only chance thing and I want to be 100% of how the process works. It really susprises me that it isn't a very well known issue becuase my search lead me to the previous link I posted and that's all.

I don't see why you want to complicate things using this...

Just get cartridge with the 4.5 update and use that to update.

That's the reason it is not well known, we tend to use the easy way to do things rather then.complicating things for no reason.

 

[wormdood]

I don't see why you want to complicate things using this...

Just get cartridge with the 4.5 update and use that to update.

That's the reason it is not well known, we tend to use the easy way to do things rather then.complicating things for no reason.

thats what he wants but thinks it will give him emunand version instead

Ok this might be noobish or not but better avoid to make a new thread.
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So I have my O3DS with SysNAND at firmware5.1 and emuNAND at 10.1 -not updating my sysNAND to 9.2-
and i have that other O3DS with firmware at 1.0, no updates at all.

I was thinking on moving the clean O3DS to at least 4.x with some cartridge but then I read that cartridge updates don't install the browser. Out of curiosity, I tried Download Play Mario Kart 7 with emuNAND O3DS and the clean O3DS and it asked for an update.

The question here is: If it updates from Download Play, what version of the firmware will it get?
-SysNAND 5.1?
-emuNAND 10.1?
-newest from Nintendo -no chances of it because it is not connected to the net-?

Also, does that update includes the browser installed in the respective firmwares -5.1 browser, 10.1 browser, newest?

 

[FromageSword]

I thought here we would be able to ask to solve dudes and stuff like this.

If you read my previous post I mentioned that I don't have a cartridge that let me perform specific system update. Isn't like it would be of any help given that the internet browser won't be installed by that way.

Now, if by any chance Download Play just takes the console firmware and transfer it to a non-updated console that would be actually better for me in this scenario. Again, I'm asking because I don't know and you saying what you say just proves that you don't have that much knowledge about the subject either, which isn't bad and just proves that this is just a suprise that the topic was never investigated further because reasons.

If it just happens that there's no clear answer to what I want to know then that would be ok too. It isn't complicating things when I just want to know something that seems like 2 users with far more time than me here don't know either.

 

[Tony_93]

@FromageSword Firs of all, I personally have never even tried the download play feature to begin with, let alone try to update a system with it, there are usually other ways to do it and I have not needed to bother.

Second, the cartridge won't update the web browser but it is of help because it will update the mset, giving you the chance to update to 4.x to use the DS Profile exploit and install rxTools or whatever CFW you want, that's why the cartridge update it's the way to go. Then you can even jump to 9.2 with sysupdater if you wish for coldbooting CFW.

Don't have one? You can buy a cheap cartridge that holds it or even borrow it.

 

[wormdood]

@FromageSword Firs of all, I personally have never even tried the download play feature to begin with, let alone try to update a system with it, there are usually other ways to do it and I have not needed to bother.

Second, the cartridge won't update the web browser but it is of help because it will update the mset, giving you the chance to update to 4.x to use the DS Profile exploit and install rxTools, that's why it's the way to go. Then you can even jump to 9.2 with sysupdater if you wish.

he is trying to do it from a rom i believe . . . he was not clear on that but did say it was downloaded the only thing i am unsure about is if you can use a rom to update and if he has a rom or a eshop version

 

[FromageSword]

I know, I know. Don't get me wrong.

I understand why you mentioned why I would be "overcomplicating" it. Your argument is valid in all sense due to the standard way of doing things is that.

But here I'm with this stuff.

Also, the way to do what you mention in 4.x requires a compatible ds flashcard right? I'm not sure if the "clone of the clone of that card" will work in 4.x.

I was just wondering if by this other way, something could be done. Out of the standard, yes it is. But these are the resources I have at hand.

 

[Tony_93]

And yes, this is a place where can ask things like this, but if there is an easier way to do things we will suggest them.

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I know, I know. Don't get me wrong.

I understand why you mentioned why I would be "overcomplicating" it. Your argument is valid in all sense due to the standard way of doing things is that.

But here I'm with this stuff.

Also, the way to do what you mention in 4.x requires a compatible ds flashcard right? I'm not sure if the "clone of the clone of that card" will work in 4.x.

I was just wondering if by this other way, something could be done. Out of the standard, yes it is. But these are the resources I have at hand.

I'm one of those that think you should always play it safe if there is the option to it, specially if you can't afford to screw it up.

Lots of flashcarts work in 4.x and even if the one that you have it doesn't work, there are lots of cheap $10 DS flashcarts that even work in 10.3

There is not much to loose this way...

 

[FromageSword]

To add more data, the Download Play is being performed with an installed CIA of the game.

I don't know if there's any difference with actual game roms and installed CIA files.

When i started Local Multiplayer it worked just fine, the 3ds with ofw 1.0 connected just ok, then it mentioned that in order to play the game and update was necessary. I was totally not expecting that. It was then when the subject started to bug me and I googled a bit here and there to only found what says in 3dsbrew site.

If it is that much an issue, we could just ignore it. But reaching a clear answer would be ok, for future references at least...

 

[CyberAle]

2 questions:
I have a New 3DS XL V10.1.0-27U
Browser is blocked, I know, I won't update
I know that the only flashcard that I can use is the sky3ds. But, I want to play another region games, such as Inazuma series. So is there any way of accessing homebrew menu AND multi-region via sky3ds? I CAN'T use a gateway because firm version

Also, I've already bought a brand new pokemon game so I have my private header. Can I still put it on sky3ds on this firmware (will that work to play online?) or was the private header abuse patched as well?

 

[Tony_93]

2 questions:
I have a New 3DS XL V10.1.0-27U
Browser is blocked, I know, I won't update
I know that the only flashcard that I can use is the sky3ds. But, I want to play another region games, such as Inazuma series. So is there any way of accessing homebrew menu AND multi-region via sky3ds? I CAN'T use a gateway because firm version

Also, I've already bought a brand new pokemon game so I have my private header. Can I still put it on sky3ds on this firmware (will that work to play online?) or was the private header abuse patched as well?

Yes, you have it easy actually. To get permanent Homebrew/Region free going you can:

1)Get a Cubic Ninja rom into the Sly3ds.
2)Install Ninjhax 2.5
3)Install Menuhax 2.0

You can still get and use a private header to play online, you can extract a header by pulling the savegame with the power saves pro method, just search for the guide shouldn't be hard to find.

 

[fibraxxx]

Hello everyone, I have a problem with my old 3ds firmware 9.2.0.0 , ninjahax pastacfw and 2.5 ( 9.0-9.2 ) is not part of FBI white screen ??????

I read that it can be injected .

Through Decrypt9WIP I extract the nand ?

with Decrypt9WIP I extract the Xorpad , with which command ? and how many files are the xorpad ?

after which I should Injects FBI in H & S , how? with which software , controls and driving ?

Finally as restore nand in sysnand with Decrypt9WIP ?

I hope someone clarify these steps to not brik console
thank you

 

[dimmidice]

i'm redoing my brothers 2DS but i installed some stuff to nand by mistake ages ago. i want to fix it. there are 4 black boxes that show up sometime.
i think i know which 4 apps they are in FBI. the program codes are -

CTR-N-A3AP
CTR-N-AA2P
CTR-N-AX4E
CTR-N-HAAP

i've tried googling them but cant find anything. does anyone know if these are safe to delete from nand? i think they might be some GBA games.

 

[raystriker]

I have Rxtools on my 2DS. Now i happen to want to play nds games, how do I launch my Supercard DSONE (not i or anything)
Is there anyway?