Hacking 3DS NOOB PARADISE - Ask questions here

[Huntereb]

I asked in the flash cart comparison thread. I said that R4i has cheats for 3ds, but the gateway didn't. Somebody then said that there was. Maybe they thought I was asking about 2ds games, then.

The card that plays DS ROMs that comes with the R4i can use cheats, but there is no possible way, at all, to cheat on 3DS (2DS included) games at this time.

 

[mrtofu]

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[Huntereb]

Should I turn on my 3DS? I'm worried that it'll be bricked. I'm using gateway flashcart and 2.0b2.

If it's already bricked, it won't hurt to try.

 

[mrtofu]

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[Huntereb]

I've left my 3DS off for about a week now. And then all this bricking stuff popped up.

Should I remove the SD card? Anyway to prevent the brick?

Don't run the exploit. Nothing's been officially confirmed yet though, don't act so nervous about it.

 

[mrtofu]

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[Huntereb]

I just ran a DS game and removed the SD card. That should remove the exploit entirely.

It's not the exploit that does anything, it's apparently just the newer launcher. If you wanna keep playing 3DS games, excluding a few newer one's, go grab an older firmware.

 

[Steena]

It's not the exploit that does anything, it's apparently just the newer launcher. If you wanna keep playing 3DS games, excluding a few newer one's, go grab an older firmware.

Do I just switch the launcher.dat inside the microsd with that of a different version to do it?

 

[Xzi]

It's not the exploit that does anything, it's apparently just the newer launcher. If you wanna keep playing 3DS games, excluding a few newer one's, go grab an older firmware.

To clarify, anybody using a Gateway cart with official Gateway firmware (any version) is safe. Should there be any corruption with an SD card, or some similar common occurrence, the first checksum (which is run before anything else) will fail, and the launcher will stop there (you'll get a black screen that simply requires a restart).

 

[Huntereb]

Do I just switch the launcher.dat inside the microsd with that of a different version to do it?

Version 1.2 of Gateway is fine, and 2.0 of R4i is good as well.

To clarify, anybody using a Gateway cart with official Gateway firmware (any version) is safe. Should there be any corruption with an SD card, or some similar common occurrence, the first checksum (which is run before anything else) will fail, and the launcher will stop there (you'll get a black screen that simply requires a restart).

This is unconfirmed, and should be taken as a grain of salt (Been sayin' that a lot today).

 

[Xzi]

This is unconfirmed, and should be taken as a grain of salt (Been sayin' that a lot today).

Taken with a grain of salt.

In any case, it is confirmed that the initial checksum does exist as an extra layer of protection for Gateway users. I suppose there could be some scenario in which that initial checksum passes and then a corruption of some sort happens a few milliseconds later, resulting in a second or third checksum failing and a damaged/bricked console becoming the result, but chances of this are incredibly slim at best. 99% of reported bricks are coming from people with launchers that were modified to bypass/recode the first checksum and would likely fail later checksums. This has to be done intentionally (3DSLink/R4i firmware, region-free patches, etc).

 

[Steena]

*thing*

I know but even 1% chance of brick (or 0.001%) is 1% too risky to have, when I can avoid it. I'm sure the case scenario you describe will statistically happen to no more than 1 total gateway owner running on original launcher out of several thousands, but I'll still want to avoid that. It'd suck if that one was me.

Version 1.2 of Gateway is fine, and 2.0 of R4i is good as well.

I was thinking 2.0b1, I read that only 2.0b2 contains the code, unless you have some newer info on the matter.

 

[Huntereb]

I was thinking 2.0b1, I read that only 2.0b2 contains the code, unless you have some newer info on the matter.

It would seem that is the case, but Beta 1 is really buggy... You can use it if you'd like I suppose, I just enjoy how easy 1.2 is.

 

[Xzi]

I know but even 1% chance of brick (or 0.001%) is 1% too risky to have, when I can avoid it. I'm sure the case scenario you describe will statistically happen to no more than 1 total gateway owner running on original launcher out of several thousands, but I'll still want to avoid that. It'd suck if that one was me.

I was thinking 2.0b1, I read that only 2.0b2 contains the code, unless you have some newer info on the matter.

1% is roughly your chance of bricking altogether, using any firmware and any flash cart. It's just the risk you take with code not signed off by Nintendo. The choice is yours, naturally.

 

[Huntereb]

1% is roughly your chance of bricking altogether, using any firmware and any flash cart. It's just the risk you take with code not signed off by Nintendo. The choice is yours, naturally.

1% may be a stretch... But you're right, there's always a chance of this type of thing when it comes to unlicensed software.

 

[Steena]

1% is roughly your chance of bricking altogether, using any firmware and any flash cart. It's just the risk you take with code not signed off by Nintendo. The choice is yours, naturally.

Of course, but if I have to choose between 1% bricking, with 1% bricking plus the presence of bricking code that might affect me by mistake while giving me no advantages, I'll always pick the former. It looks statistically less riskier no matter what.

Also, is that rough 1% a sensible guess, or do you just think so? I'd say 1% is a little too high for any system to brick, considering all the times you usually boot up your console, especially if it's an handheld. I must have booted my DS / Wii / PS3 / PSP (all hacked, obviously) a total of 10,000 times by now, and nothing happened. By now there surely are 3DS users who have the gateway since it launched and probably booted it up a thousand times.

It would seem that is the case, but Beta 1 is really buggy... You can use it if you'd like I suppose, I just enjoy how easy 1.2 is.

I see. I'll look into both if that's the case.

 

[Xzi]

Of course, but if I have to choose between 1% bricking, with 1% bricking plus the presence of bricking code that might affect me by mistake while giving me no advantages, I'll always pick the former. It looks statistically less riskier no matter what.

Also, is that rough 1% a sensible guess, or do you just think so? I'd say 1% is a little too high for any system to brick, considering all the times you usually boot up your console, especially if it's an handheld. I must have booted my DS / Wii / PS3 / PSP (all hacked, obviously) a total of 10,000 times by now, and nothing happened. By now there surely are 3DS users who have the gateway since it launched and probably booted it up a thousand times.

It would be incredibly hard to legitimately quantify the chances. It's dependent on a lot of different factors. The only thing that is certain is that there is no 100% certainty when it comes to unlicensed software/hardware.

 

[Steena]

It would be incredibly hard to legitimately quantify the chances. It's dependent on a lot of different factors. The only thing that is certain is that there is no 100% certainty when it comes to unlicensed software/hardware.

I dare say the same goes for legitimate ones.

 

[Xzi]

I dare say the same goes for legitimate ones.

True, but at least in that case, you have a safety net should something go wrong. The party responsible will fix the issue or replace your hardware most of the time if need be.

 

[lonesome_killer]

Hey guys, not new to the forums but new to 3DS flash carts. A few questions.

I don't currently have a 3DS. I would like to get a 3DS XL. I saw the thread that said I would need firmware 4.5 or less.

(1) Is this true? I really wanted the Zelda 3DS XL

(2) If it is true, then is the information in this thread still current?
http://gbatemp.net/threads/where-to-get-a-firmware-4-5-or-below-3ds-xl.352360/
(need serial numbers ending in SW12XXXXXX X)

(3)I had a DS flashcart. Can you still have multiple ROM's on 1 flashcart or can you only have 1 game at a time?

(4) I would like to be able to play online. If I understand correctly you cannot currently play ROMs online, only original retail games? Playing online wouldn't be a big deal for me.

(5) Which flashcart would you recommend? I read the flashcart comparison chart and they all seem the same?