Hacking 3DS Flashcarts - News, Updates, and Support Thread

[groit]

So.. that clone stuff MIGHT(at the risk of starting a flame war) be a waste of time cause they take even longer to update?

 

[ScarletCrystals]

So say 8.0(Nintendo) comes out with an awesome game we want to play, and gateway comes out with an 8.0 update, how are we supposed to update emuNAND if Nintendo releases 8.1 before? Are we all going to have to mod our 3DS?

Let's see if I can explain this coherently....
Emunand/Gateway mode spoof the firmware naturally so you can run higher firmware roms/cartridges on a 4.5 3ds. In essence, it is bypassing the check whenever the 3ds checks whether you have the right firmware.

So why don't some of the newer games work? Because they are using a new save encryption method called sdk7+. A 4.5 3ds can't read/write this save method so the game fails to load. And firmware spoofing doesn't fix this because it still can't allow the 3ds to use the new encryption method.

 

[ScarletCrystals]

Damm, quoted myself lawl.

 

[groit]

we still need to update emuNAND at the same time the gateway and nintendo updates align, if you get what im saying

 

[ScarletCrystals]

we still need to update emuNAND at the same time the gateway and nintendo updates align, if you get what im saying

You don't actually need emunand at all.

 

[groit]

so you are saying we just need a gateway update? thats cool

 

[ScarletCrystals]

so you are saying we just need a gateway update?

Pretty much, the new games don't work because of sdk7+
Emunand 8.x doesn't load because of sdk7+

 

[gamesquest1]

Let's see if I can explain this coherently....
Emunand/Gateway mode spoof the firmware naturally so you can run higher firmware roms/cartridges on a 4.5 3ds. In essence, it is bypassing the check whenever the 3ds checks whether you have the right firmware.

So why don't some of the newer games work? Because they are using a new save encryption method called sdk7+. A 4.5 3ds can't read/write this save method so the game fails to load. And firmware spoofing doesn't fix this because it still can't allow the 3ds to use the new encryption method.

you have 2 separate issues mashed up there,
firstly there is 6.x save encryption,
and now there is 7.x ncch (rom) encryption

save encryption doesn't really matter....if you encrypt and decrypt a save wrong you can still do it, but its not the "proper" way which is why gateway cant use games saves that are using 6.x save encryption in classic mode if they where played on a real retail updated console as opposed to classic mode, and why a cart played in classic mode will not load the save on a retail 6.x+ console...gateway uses one key nintnedo uses another

ncch encryption is the issue as the content is already encrypted using retail encryption method, so gateway cant improvise with this like they did with 6.x save encryption they need the decryption key to decrypt it

 

[groit]

ncch encryption was introduced with 7.2(Nintendo)?

 

[gamesquest1]

ncch encryption was introduced with 7.2(Nintendo)?

nope was first added as an option in the initial 7.0 update i believe, but only a few apps used it like pokebank, and the US youtube app, it was only in 7.2 that parts of the OS used the new ncch encryption, now in 8.0 even more of the OS uses it rendering it unusable in emunand, it took quite a while from its introduction to actually hit retail carts

 

[groit]

oh dear

 

[Bigbones87]

Wow. I just bought a brand new exploitable 3ds xl for $215 after tax. Then I bought a $73 gateway card. Then I bought a couple 128gb sd hc cards for roms to go on. So I have a good bit invested in all of this so far, and haven't gotten all the parts in the mail yet. Now I am reading that certain games aren't gonna play because of new encryption and would need newer decryption keys, that gateway obviously doesn't have and may never have? Hmm....feeling like this May have been a waste of funds, but we will see. Hopefully it all works out for all the money invested. Lol

 

[Joe88]

256GB???
I only have a 64GB card and its less then half full
I dont think there will be that many good games

 

[Bigbones87]

I'm a bit of an over achiever I guess. :/

 

[laurorual]

well, gateway team has already said that they are "certainty that we will soon be running 7.x games and 7.x applications".
So, unless they are lying, there is still hope

 

[Rizzorules]

well, gateway team has already said that they are "certainty that we will soon be running 7.x games and 7.x applications".
So, unless they are lying, there is still hope

I dont think they are lying they have always give us what they promise but months later, i hope they realese the update before September 13, because that day is when Super smash bros is realesed in Japan so we could play it 2 weeks before

 

[laurorual]

well, there is also smealum working on sploits on newer firmwares. I know that there was already a discussion here about smealum's sploit not been useful for rom emulation, but who knows, maybe when it is released, gateway can have some help with 7.x app decryption
he said that in about 2 weeks his sploit will be released.

 

[Adr990]

I just realized my question is more appropriate here.

Also, I want to play Zelda ALBW, but it has the 6.2 update on it, right?
Does EmuNand spoof it self, or do you actually need to update it via the Nintendo Servers? (And therfore wait for a new Gateway update on that)
Or can I change the required version number with the 3DSExplorer 1.5.3? (I removed the update already via the tool..)

And I can just use the headers of my original games on Roms like this:
http://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-use-scene-dumps-with-gw-2-2-online.365829/


And go online on 4.4 (even 4.4 (if it is not spoofed) emunand), right?

 

[gamesquest1]

all games except 7.x encrypted games will work fine on any firmware, you dont even need to set up emunand, just enter gateway mode and they will work as normal,

you can go online as long as you follow the turorial in that thread, only exceptions are games that require a update from the eshop(i.e pokemon), only way to play them online is if you already downloaded the update when 7.x was the latest version out

 

[Adr990]

all games except 7.x encrypted games will work fine on any firmware, you dont even need to set up emunand, just enter gateway mode and they will work as normal,

you can go online as long as you follow the turorial in that thread, only exceptions are games that require a update from the eshop(i.e pokemon), only way to play them online is if you already downloaded the update when 7.x was the latest version out

Thanks.

I read about the update part before, there seems to be a MK7 v1.1 rom dump around, mine is probably 1.0. (bought on release day)
Other updated games have not yet been seen on the scene yet. (being sold already updated)