Homebrew 33C3 - Why should I care? Why is this info important?

[Kingy]

Hello, after seeing many threads popping up, I decided to make a thread summarising everything that happened.

So, we now have the bootrom keys thanks to vectorhax (so there is FW signing), which can help the development of homebrews, etc, but sadly, here's a quote:

You can't do sighax without arm9 access. There's no other way to write to NAND in software.

But hopefully this can be adapted in the future so we have a "real" CFW, which needs no use of booting into hbl, installing into the system forever, and have more great capabilities!

What about the exploits? Well, we have some good news for you people. We have been introduced to Soundhax, which may come out soon. Tired of waiting for slowhax to start the payload? Fasthax has been introduced, allowing fast Kernel11 execution well, fast.

This is a growing thread, so if you have some more info or want to grow the thread, please put the info in the comments, and tag me.

Also, you can ask your questions here, so others, including me, can help you

Spoiler: Confirmed Info from posts in this thread

Nothing here

Spoiler: Community thoughts

one thing I *think* this will also allow is the expansion of the nand partitions, it's always been a bit annoying king I have only 1.2gb used of a 1.8gb nand, in theory I think we could now expand/resize nand partitions to increase for example the dsi nand size for installing more dsi titles etc

Happy hacking!
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[Somebody Whoisbored]

Both bootroms dumped. Fake-signing firmwares.

 

[Kingy]

Made a title mistake. :ok_hand:

 

[Deleted User]

Nice! Let's hope this can grow into a big post for everyone to understand and no more confusion.

 

[metroid maniac]

So, we now have the bootrom keys (so there is FW signing), which completely disrupts the point of downgrading, so we can now get kernel execution and a CFW on any version where you can load the HBL, which is great for any unlucky people stuck on 11.2, or have a 11.0-1 device and doesn't have DSIWare.

You can't do sighax without arm9 access. There's no other way to write to NAND in software.

 

[Kingy]

You can't do sighax without arm9 access. There's no other way to write to NAND in software.

Thanks for the info! This will be added to the OP.

 

[metroid maniac]

Thanks for the info! This will be added to the OP.

Well, the OP is now unclear/misleading.

So, we now have the bootrom keys (so there is FW signing), which completely disrupts the point of downgrading, so we can now get kernel execution and a CFW on any version where you can load the HBL, which is great for any unlucky people stuck on 11.2, or have a 11.0-1 device and doesn't have DSIWare, but sadly, here's a quote:

This is incorrect. Getting into HBL isn't enough to be able to install sighax.

 

[Kingy]

Well, the OP is now unclear/misleading.



This is incorrect. Getting into HBL isn't enough to be able to install sighax.

Welp, fixed again.

 

[gamesquest1]

what it does mean thought is hardmods should always allow cfw now regardless of fw version even if they fix/block the dsi downgrade route

 

[metroid maniac]

what it does mean thought is hardmods should always allow cfw now regardless of fw version

This, along with DSiWarehax. And neither of these will require the current chain of FIRM downgrade > 9.2 downgrade > 2.1 downgrade.

 

[gamesquest1]

one thing I *think* this will also allow is the expansion of the nand partitions, it's always been a bit annoying thinking I have only 1.2gb used of a 1.8gb nand, in theory I think we could now expand/resize nand partitions to increase for example the dsi nand size for installing more dsi titles etc

(assuming I understood the presentation correctly )

 

[Deleted member 379940]

33c3 instead of 3c33 ??

 

[Deleted User]

33c3 instead of 3c33 ??

No, it's just a typo

 

[Kingy]

33c3 instead of 3c33 ??

It was a title mistake, disregard that

 

[adrifcastr]

Hello, after seeing many threads popping up, I decided to make a thread summarising everything that happened.

So, we now have the bootrom keys (so there is FW signing), which can help the development of homebrews, etc, but sadly, here's a quote:

But hopefully this can be adapted in the future so we have a "real" CFW, which needs no use of booting into hbl, installing into the system forever, and have more great capabilities!

What about the exploits? Well, we have some good news for you people. We have been introduced to Soundhax, which may come out soon. Tired of waiting for slowhax to start the payload? Fasthax has been introduced, allowing fast Kernel11 execution well, fast.

This is a growing thread, so if you have some more info or want to grow the thread, please put the info in the comments, and tag me.

Also, you can ask your questions here, so others, including me, can help you

Spoiler: Confirmed Info from posts in this thread

Nothing here

Happy hacking!

I´m Uploading the complete Talk in Full HD, when it´s done you can add it to the OP if you want.

 

[duffmmann]

one thing I *think* this will also allow is the expansion of the nand partitions, it's always been a bit annoying thinking I have only 1.2gb used of a 1.8gb nand, in theory I think we could now expand/resize nand partitions to increase for example the dsi nand size for installing more dsi titles etc

(assuming I understood the presentation correctly )

When you say this, would we in theory be able to install beyond the 40 title limit of DS/DSiware titles? Or are you simply stating that we could fill up more of those 40 slots with full games (not really a reality now given how little space the 3DS gives us for DSiware titles)? If its the latter, it wouldn't make much a difference to me, because I have the majority of those 40 slots filled up with DS game forwarders from my flashcard, and then the rest are my favorite DSiware titles. if its the former, that would be awesome, I'd love to put a forwarder on the menu for every single game I have on my DS flashcard, but I have a feeling that 40 title limit (as well as the 3DS 300 title limit) are still locked in at those limits, and what you're saying applies more to the actual data size we're limited to for DS(iware) titles.

 

[Joom]

Nothing was released except for a couple hashes. The public doesn't have access to dumping the bootroms, and probably won't until somebody else figures it out. Don't get your hopes up.

 

[gamesquest1]

When you say this, would we in theory be able to install beyond the 40 title limit of DS/DSiware titles? Or are you simply stating that we could fill up more of those 40 slots with full games (not really a reality now given how little space the 3DS gives us for DSiware titles)? If its the latter, it wouldn't make much a difference to me, because I have the majority of those 40 slots filled up with DS game forwarders from my flashcard, and then the rest are my favorite DSiware titles. if its the former, that would be awesome, I'd love to put a forwarder on the menu for every single game I have on my DS flashcard, but I have a feeling that 40 title limit (as well as the 3DS 300 title limit) are still locked in at those limits, and what you're saying applies more to the actual data size we're limited to for DS(iware) titles.

yeah I just want the space because I want it XD I don't really care that much but at one point I did install a few dsi titles and got a out of space message, so I figured it would be more practical to add space there seeing as ctrnand is unlikely to ever be filled by anyone anyway

but yeah I don't know if anyone would ever be bothered to do it as it would actually be more complicated than it seems shifting partitions around etc, and I doubt many people even care, combined with the fact that not all n3ds/2ds consoles have a 1.8gb nand it makes a really small audience

 

[mehmeh11]

OK, so I still can't do anything besides regular HBL right? I'm on 11.0.0-33 U, and I don't have any of the 4 dsiwarehax games nor a CFW

 

[Kingy]

OK, so I still can't do anything besides regular HBL right? I'm on 11.0.0-33 U, and I don't have any of the 4 dsiwarehax games nor a CFW

Not now, but we have achieved Kernel11 exploitation with Fasthax, which may come soon.