Hacking Pre-owned Wii U with an already purchased Brain Training

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

I understand that I need to buy a game from the eShop but whoever owned this console prior (bought pre-owned through EB Games) already purchased Brain Training. Do I just need to redownload the title and it will suffice as an entrypoint for Haxchi?

Shadow#1 · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
I understand that I need to buy a game from the eShop but whoever owned this console prior (bought pre-owned through EB Games) already purchased Brain Training. Do I just need to redownload the title and it will suffice as an entrypoint for Haxchi?

As long as it's a legit copy installed if it's pirated u will have a nice Wii U brick

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

Shadow#1 said:
As long as it's a legit copy installed if it's pirated u will have a nice Wii U brick

I'm going through the shop to see what else was purchased and it looks like Brain Training is the only one, so I suspect the last owner also installed hacked it.

So are eShop purchases tied to the device and not the account? That's what confused me.

Thanks for the note about pirated entry point games. Seems odd that it comes up a fair bit, considering every guide has "MUST BE LEGITIMATED BOUGHT" multiple times.

BaamAlex · Jun 17, 2019

You can test it. Install haxchi on it. If it's a legit game, haxchi will work. If not, haxchi will not start. The normal haxchi comes with no risk of damaging your device.

Shadow#1 · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
I'm going through the shop to see what else was purchased and it looks like Brain Training is the only one, so I suspect the last owner also installed hacked it.

So are eShop purchases tied to the device and not the account? That's what confused me.

Thanks for the note about pirated entry point games. Seems odd that it comes up a fair bit, considering every guide has "MUST BE LEGITIMATED BOUGHT" multiple times.

Tied to the device and if haxchi is installed and u download it again will cause a brick

BaamAlex · Jun 17, 2019

Shadow#1 said:
Tied to the device and if haxchi is installed and u download it again will cause a brick

That is not correct. The normal haxchi can be normally uninstalled in the data management. CBHC causes a brick if it's not properly uninstalled through the installer.

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

BaamAlex said:
You can test it. Install haxchi on it. If it's a legit game, haxchi will work. If not, haxchi will not start. The normal haxchi comes with no risk of damaging your device.

This is the kind of reassurance I was looking for, thanks!

Shadow#1 said:
Tied to the device and if haxchi is installed and u download it again will cause a brick

Again, great note. All I have done so far on the console is set up a Nintendo Network ID and download pinball to test the console and controller, then found Brain Training already purchased, so I downloaded it.

I haven't even inserted the SD into the console yet haha!

hemi426 · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
I'm going through the shop to see what else was purchased and it looks like Brain Training is the only one, so I suspect the last owner also installed hacked it.

So are eShop purchases tied to the device and not the account? That's what confused me.

Thanks for the note about pirated entry point games. Seems odd that it comes up a fair bit, considering every guide has "MUST BE LEGITIMATED BOUGHT" multiple times.

tied to device ,just don't delete the user account from the wiiu,when i bought my wiiu it also had bt on it .if haxchi or other homebrew apps are not on the wiiu it has to be a legit game(check if it works)

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

hemi426 said:
tied to device ,just don't delete the user account from the wiiu,when i bought my wiiu it also had bt on it .if haxchi or other homebrew apps are not on the wiiu it has to be a legit game(check if it works)

Just tested BT and it works (for the record, my brain is in its 80s =/). The user account is a new one, on which nothing has been purchased, but BT had been purchased by a previous account, which had been deleted.

It seems like from this thread that it doesn't matter how many times all data and accounts are wiped from the console, you will always be about to legitimately redownload BT for free.

BaamAlex · Jun 17, 2019

What the heck is BT? Bluetooth?

hemi426 · Jun 17, 2019

BaamAlex said:
What the heck is BT? Bluetooth?

brain training

bomigoton · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
This is the kind of reassurance I was looking for, thanks!

Again, great note. All I have done so far on the console is set up a Nintendo Network ID and download pinball to test the console and controller, then found Brain Training already purchased, so I downloaded it.

I haven't even inserted the SD into the console yet haha!

BrainTraining was free for a limited time when it came out. When You are able to redownload it from the shop you are lucky.
I got it for free back then, thought its tied to the NNID.
Yes, try haxchi. This will be a good test. Keep in mind braintraining needs to stay like this - forever -

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

bomigoton said:
BrainTraining was free for a limited time when it came out. When You are able to redownload it from the shop you are lucky.
I got it for free back then, thought its tied to the NNID.
Yes, try haxchi. This will be a good test. Keep in mind braintraining needs to stay like this - forever -

When you say like this, what do you mean?

BaamAlex · Jun 17, 2019

Brain Training was for free if your NNID was registered before 2014.

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Or in other words, until 2014

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

BaamAlex said:
Brain Training was for free if your NNID was registered before 2014.

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Or in other words, until 2014

Definitely got lucky with the pre-owned then, as I made my NNID a few days ago. I've had a myNintendo account for a while though. Not sure why they're different =/

bomigoton · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
When you say like this, what do you mean?

We had a case here where somebody "forgot" his CBHC (Cold boot hax chi) was installed in brain training. He installed a pirated version of the game (wanting to play it I guess). With overwriting the haxchi and BRICKING his wiiu. I think the same would happen when you or somebody deletes brain training by mistake.
This is why I never installed CBHC (i have kids). clicking haxchi ones after start is not hard. All "brasilian" method games work without a haxchi start. eshop games will throw an error until you start haxchi or mocha once so sig patches are active.
You can use a free dlc ticket in zelda for example to unlock DLC even without sig patches active (ticket swap method).

hemi426 · Jun 17, 2019

CaiP said:
When you say like this, what do you mean?

if you install haxchi over bt it needs bt to work.no bt no haxchi.if you have cbhc and delete bt=brick

CaiP · Jun 17, 2019

bomigoton said:
We had a case here where somebody "forgot" his CBHC (Cold boot hax chi) was installed in brain training. He installed a pirated version of the game (wanting to play it I guess). With overwriting the haxchi and BRICKING his wiiu. I think the same would happen when you or somebody deletes brain training by mistake.
This is why I never installed CBHC (i have kids). clicking haxchi ones after start is not hard. All "brasilian" method games work without a haxchi start. eshop games will throw an error until you start haxchi or mocha once so sig patches are active.
You can use a free dlc ticket in zelda for example to unlock DLC even without sig patches active (ticket swap method).

hemi426 said:
if you install haxchi over bt it needs bt to work.no bt no haxchi.if you have cbhc and delete bt=brick

Definitely not going to go CBHC over normal Haxchi, unless there is anything other than saving 1 click per reboot.

@bomigoton, I've never heard of "brasilian" method games, could you explain this?

Also, Zelda BotW is a major reason I got a Wii U to begin with. Will CBHC make getting the DLC easier?

BaamAlex · Jun 17, 2019

bomigoton said:
This is why I never installed CBHC (i have kids). clicking haxchi ones after start is not hard

Nothing happens as long as you don't uninstall it in the data management. Put a pin in it and you should be safe.

Engezerstorung · Jun 17, 2019

uh, the game is also linked to the account that bought it
dont delet the account or you will loose the game

and do what you want but i would personnaly advise to not install cbhc, it is something that have a tiny advantage and a huge risk, install haxchi and launch it when you power up your wiiU, it will be a handfull of seconds but at least if something go south with the hack you dont loose your console

brazilian method refere to installing the game available in disk form with an installer, those game (if without linked eshop paid content like dlc) can launch even if the console is not in its hacked state (for exemple: install zelda tp with haxchi and the installer, play it just after having starter your console)

Also, Zelda BotW is a major reason I got a Wii U to begin with. Will CBHC make getting the DLC easier?

if you install zelda botw alone you will be able to launch it on console startup without having to do anything, if you install a non-legit dlc you will need to run haxchi before that. cbhc is just something that will auto-launch haxchi during the boot, but it have risks in my opinion as already stated

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