Not every Pokémon will be available in Pokémon Sword and Shield

Delerious · Jun 14, 2019

Honestly, this is just another reason why they only should have been adding 70-100 pokemon per generation. The other is the lack of imagination with some of the pokemon they've created.

Hells Malice · Jun 14, 2019

Not surprising given the effort required to model every single pokemon with all moves and other crap related to them. It gets worse every generation, but at least before being handheld games the graphics were pretty simple.

I have a feeling the rest will be added in time and just not for launch. Really pokemon could use a massive overhaul for balancing to make it actually viable to be a real competitive game and not just a joke one. Like 75% of pokemon are basically useless.

chartube12 · Jun 14, 2019

Hells Malice said:
Not surprising given the effort required to model every single pokemon with all moves and other things related to them.

I have a feeling the rest will be added in time and just not for launch.

No! As I said in another thread this isn’t gonna happen! Going forward only a selection of old will be available. The selection will be based on a combination of the regions theme and Japan popularity. Eventually this means many Pokémon will be left behind and forgotten about. I posted two of the links available to YouTube (in the old thread), There are many vids explaining. Each of them sharing the same source, the interview in very thread!

MalikTH · Jun 14, 2019

Chizko said:
so you're demanding for a game to your taste....then you never buy a game....this is very childish

It's not childish. Not purchasing a game is perhaps the best way to tell the developers that you don't like a product, or some part of a product. This is no exception. As stated before, "voting with your dollar."

I'm not getting these games until they announce plans to add support for old mons. If they add support for old mons. Because at this point, if you transfer Pokemon that aren't in the Galar dex to Home... they just sit there, because transferring is one-way and they can only go to SwSh from there.

lone_wolf323 · Jun 14, 2019

They really should of made a better way then pokehome. Honestly the games went to crap when they omitted national dex on s/m. Seems game freak is getting worse and worse

raxadian · Jun 14, 2019

This barely count as news. Anyone remenbers Pokemon Third Gen? Also know as the money sucking generation. Even buying every game and having the Gamecube and GBA to Gamecube link cable you still were missing a few Pokemon you could only get as Nintendo events or by using a cheating device.

Third Gen was the main reason I cheated like a bandit on the DS games to get any Pokemon I wanted.

Thedge · Jun 14, 2019

raxadian said:
This barely count as news. Anyone remenbers Pokemon Third Gen? Also know as the money sucking generation. Even buying every game and having the Gamecube and GBA to Gamecube link cable you still were missing a few Pokemon you could only get as Nintendo events or by using a cheating device.

Third Gen was the main reason I cheated like a bandit on the DS games to get any Pokemon I wanted.

you could still get the pokemon in gen 3 though. everyones issue here is that they are omitting certain pokemon entirely, like they wont be in the game at all, not just that they wont be catchable by normal means.

goldensun87 · Jun 14, 2019

Lacius said:
I figuratively don't buy it, and I literally won't buy it.

The Dynamax Pokemon are so big, there's no more space left for other Pokemon.

Dynamax is a stupid and pointless mechanic, that is apparently taking up a significant amount of memory. They should have upgraded Z-Moves to have a 5-turn cooldown. That would have added an extra layer of tension and mind games to competitive play.

shadow1w2 · Jun 14, 2019

Sixty bucks and we don't get to use all the pokemon we have, bit of a bummer.
I suppose Home will work as storage for everything else but I can see them selling the national dex as DLC.
Though I'd hope they'd offer a full expansion rather than just that but I bet you that's their plan.
Still if they make the most of it and really keep adding new places to explore and challenges etc, islands from older games like Kanto it would be well worth it. That or if the national dex would be cheap.
I mean it's strange they'd choose to remove it without thinking of a way to make money off it first.
Still better game balance is good too so I'm not all that torn by it.

Deleted User · Jun 14, 2019

MalikTH said:
. Because at this point, if you transfer Pokemon that aren't in the Galar dex to Home... they just sit there, because transferring is one-way and they can only go to SwSh from there.

Is that any different to just leaving your collection in Ultra Sun's PC box?

They're talking about adding features like trading to Pokémon Home, clearly they don't just want it to be a Bank successor, but a place for keeping and showing off your collection of Pokémon that you've gathered throughout the various games, hence the name Pokémon Home.

Think whenever Ash leaves on a new journey and only brings his Pikachu, leaving all his previous journey's Pokémon at home. At the end of the journey, he returns home and sees all of his Pokémon and brings all the Pokémon from his latest adventure with him.

MalikTH · Jun 14, 2019

Snugglevixen said:
Is that any different to just leaving your collection in Ultra Sun's PC box?

They're talking about adding features like trading to Pokémon Home, clearly they don't just want it to be a Bank successor, but a place for keeping and showing off your collection of Pokémon that you've gathered throughout the various games, hence the name Pokémon Home.

Okay, but you can actually do stuff with the Pokemon in your PC boxes. Like Pelago, or maybe on the rare occasion that you do want to use them, you have the option. Here you literally can't do anything with them besides trade.

Deleted User · Jun 14, 2019

MalikTH said:
Okay, but you can actually do stuff with the Pokemon in your PC boxes. Like Pelago, or maybe on the rare occasion that you do want to use them, you have the option. Here you literally can't do anything with them besides trade.

They haven't confirmed there won't be other features, and judging by the naming choice, I'm expecting it to be more than a Pokémon Bank 2 + trading.

MalikTH · Jun 14, 2019

Snugglevixen said:
They haven't confirmed there won't be other features, and judging by the naming choice, I'm expecting it to be more than a Pokémon Bank 2 + trading.

Well, as far as we know right now, that's what it is.

PK_FIRE · Jun 14, 2019

Left Pikachu looks way better, looks like it came out the actually TV animated series which is great it has more details.

Xzi said:
I think it really is just that simple. The engine takes care of the rest.

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Xzi · Jun 14, 2019

PK_FIRE said:
Left Pikachu looks way better, looks like it came out the actually TV animated series which is great it has more details.

I agree it looks better, but it's the engine and the shaders adding the effects which make it 'pop' more. It's for sure the same model from 3DS/LGPE, just imported to UE4 or whatever gen8 is using.

raxadian · Jun 14, 2019

Thedge said:
you could still get the pokemon in gen 3 though.

Not if you didn't live near any place were Nintendo gave away the restricted Pokemon.

There also wasn't online trading in third gen.

Edit: Also, until Emerald, Fire Red and Leaf Green were released, there was a lot of common mon you couldn't get in third gen.

Thedge · Jun 14, 2019

raxadian said:
Not if you didn't live near any place were Nintendo gave away the restricted Pokemon.

There wasn't online trading in third gen.

get as in they were physically in the game. they technically were possible to get, even if you didnt have access to internet or whatever, their code exists in the games data, which cant be said for the pokemon omitted from SS from the looks of it.

Deleted User · Jun 14, 2019

Be sure to buy Sword and Shield 2, where its the same game but you can actually use all the pokemon you've ever caught! All for another $60 usd

raxadian · Jun 14, 2019

Thedge said:
get as in they were physically in the game. they technically were possible to get, even if you didnt have access to internet or whatever, their code exists in the games data, which cant be said for the pokemon omitted from SS from the looks of it.

Considering the game is in 3D CGI, it was this or delaying the game for a year.

And they can't delay the game for a year cause money.

king_leo said:
Be sure to buy Sword and Shield 2, where its the same game but you can actually use all the pokemon you've ever caught! All for another $60 usd

Or as DLC for the first game for just $30 usd.

Deleted User · Jun 14, 2019

raxadian said:
Or as DLC for the first game for just $30 usd.

This is Game Freak we are talking about. Its either going to be a third game with minor changes or a Sword 2/Shield 2 also with minor changes.

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