Romshepherd is gone, other sites followed.

contezero · Dec 12, 2018

After emuparadise removed all the roms on their website in august now Romshepherd is closed. The site was already targeted by dns-blocking in august (at least from Italy) following a Nintendo legal initiative. Topcatroms, his brother torrent tracker faced the same destiny.
Also 4chan removed the forum about emulators and Pleasuredome, a torrent tracker mainly focused on mame roms but also with console related content removed all the torrents with Nintendo stuff.

Now, on the homepage of Romshepherd you can only read the following statement:

edit: I was wrong, only Nintendo roms and isos are removed from Pleasuredome. The original Sony playstation collection is still available
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To Whom It May Concern

Infringement of Nintendo’s Intellectual Property Rights

I do not make available, distribute, sell or let for hire, offer or expose for sale or hire, advertise for sale or hire, have in my possession for commercial purposes or otherwise deal in or with the unauthorised copies of video games developed for Nintendo’s video game platforms and do not do so because I acknowledge that they infringe the intellectual property rights of Nintendo together with other publishers and developers. I have also agreed not to make such infringing copies. I am making this statement in order to educate others not to do so either.

[cut]

Internet piracy and counterfeiting of Nintendo's video game products is illegal and I support Nintendo’s enforcement of its intellectual property rights with a view to reducing video game piracy worldwide, in order that it and its collaborators may continue to invest in the development of new video games.

Yours faithfully

Nigel Fletcher / Terra_Cresta

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

Never heard of those ROM sites. And you still can get games from that one Paradise but it requires a lot of work, and no, I won't mention how to either.

contezero · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
Never heard of those ROM sites.

Pleasuredome is almost 20 years old and Romshepherd started more than 10 years ago. About 4chan...you really never heard about it? ;-)

linuxares · Dec 12, 2018

well that wasn't surprising how Nintendo have been activily hunting lately.

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

contezero said:
Pleasuredome is almost 20 years old and Romshepherd started more than 10 years ago. About 4chan...you really never heard about it? ;-)

I didn't say 4chan, did I? No. The other two I never heard of, 4chan is just a hellhole. And with EP, the games are quite gone per se, but I won't say more than that on here.

Nintendo has been nothing but overly-litigious jackholes as of late.

AgentChet · Dec 12, 2018

Lolz, all this got super aggressive after that Switch-sdk leak happened. Once that event took place, Ninten-Ninjas went into overdrive with takedowns.

Cubuss · Dec 12, 2018

Romshepard already removed Nintendo switch forum section / releases a while ago,

But now they gone completly,

Riperoni

linuxares · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
I didn't say 4chan, did I? No. The other two I never heard of, 4chan is just a hellhole. And with EP, the games are quite gone per se, but I won't say more than that on here.

Nintendo has been nothing but overly-litigious jackholes as of late.

I guess you would feel the same if you had a multi-million dollar business with responsibilities to publishers, developers and shareholders.

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

linuxares said:
I guess you would feel the same if you had a multi-million dollar business with responsibilities to publishers, developers and shareholders.

I don't care so much that they protect their IP more than their lack of care of providing better options to legally obtain said IP. The Nintendo Switch Online is utter garbage, ooh, NES games, we haven't had those before!

Offer NES, N64, Snes, etc, otherwise until they do, I will pirate the hell out of them. Too bad for them.

I know how to get games from EP, but I will not say more here.

They're sitting on a goldmine, offering more games on Switch Online, but no, they have to sit on their fat asses not doing a thing about it. Greedy bastards.

ShadowOne333 · Dec 12, 2018

Holy shit.
Another one?

Fucking stop, Nintendo, seriously.
These sites are making no harming to your fucking business at all.
You are making millions out of the Switch and each game, stop with your draconian bullshit about intellectual properties already.

Besides there are a lot of ROMs that are not available in any form in current media, how the fuck are we supposed to get those?

Again, I encourage everyone reading to search for full romsets of consoles and back them up in one of your drives. Most likely torrents will be the way to share ROMs in the near future.

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

ShadowOne333 said:
Holy shit.
Another one?

Fucking stop, Nintendo, seriously.
These sites are making no harming to your fucking business at all.
You are making millions out of the Switch and each game, stop with your draconian bullshit about intellectual properties already.

Besides there are a lot of ROMs that are not available in any form in current media, how the fuck are we supposed to get those?

Again, I encourage everyone reading to search for full romsets of consoles and back them up in one of your drives. Most likely torrents will be the way to share ROMs in the near future.

In before the "but it's their right to not provide games, they owe you nothing" bullshit response. Yes, it's true, but they have no right to complain about third party ROMs and ISO images, they have NO jurisdiction over those, so what right do they have to take those down as well? Oh I know, they don't.

NES only can fuck itself.

linuxares · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
In before the "but it's their right to not provide games, they owe you nothing" bullshit response. Yes, it's true, but they have no right to complain about third party ROMs and ISO images, they have NO jurisdiction over those, so what right do they have to take those down as well? Oh I know, they don't.

NES only can fuck itself.

You would be surprised how many lawfirms have multiple clients with the same shared intrests. I totally understand what and why they take down the rom sites. Even if the games are older than most people here, it's still their legal option.

Also you would be surprised how easy they're still to find. No need for the backdoor access you talk about either

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

linuxares said:
You would be surprised how many lawfirms have multiple clients with the same shared intrests. I totally understand what and why they take down the rom sites. Even if the games are older than most people here, it's still their legal option.

Also you would be surprised how easy they're still to find. No need for the backdoor access you talk about either

Not the third party games, Nintendo owns the rights to jack shit for non-Nintendo IP. They can suck it. They don't even allow more than shitty NES games on Switch, so why the hell should I comply? Sorry, but I'm buying a single older game of theirs.

Again, I don't care that they protect their first party games, but not allowing us to legally obtain them is just a dick move. I don't care if it's "their right", they blatantly refuse to allow more games to be bought then bitch about piracy like they have no choice to provide more games online.

cearp · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
I didn't say 4chan, did I? No. The other two I never heard of, 4chan is just a hellhole. And with EP, the games are quite gone per se, but I won't say more than that on here.

i guess it's some internet archive/way back machine thing?

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

cearp said:
i guess it's some internet archive/way back machine thing?

Still a hellhole.

AgentChet · Dec 12, 2018

linuxares said:
You would be surprised how many lawfirms have multiple clients with the same shared intrests. I totally understand what and why they take down the rom sites. Even if the games are older than most people here, it's still their legal option.

Also you would be surprised how easy they're still to find. No need for the backdoor access you talk about either

Very, very true. It's surprising alright!

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

AgentChet said:
Very, very true. It's surprising alright!

Nintendo has no right to take down games from systems whose IP they don't even own.

Look at all that money they're losing from games that they're not selling, the horror!

Poor Nintendo!

AgentChet · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
Nintendo has no right to take down games from systems whose IP they don't even own.

Look at all that money they're losing from games that they're not selling, the horror!

Remember Chaos? Remember LimeWire? Remember Piratebay? Many platforms can get in trouble even if it doesn't seem totally black and white. Who knows, Romsheperd could be doing what Chaos did a year ago and shutdown before any trouble does show up.

linuxares · Dec 12, 2018

the_randomizer said:
Not the third party games, Nintendo owns the rights to jack shit for non-Nintendo IP. They can suck it. They don't even allow more than shitty NES games on Switch, so why the hell should I comply? Sorry, but I'm buying a single older game of theirs.

Again, I don't care that they protect their first party games, but not allowing us to legally obtain them is just a dick move. I don't care if it's "their right", they blatantly refuse to allow more games to be bought then bitch about piracy like they have no choice to provide more games online.

It's not Nintendo per say that takes them down. It's the lawfirm. If the lawfirm also have Sony on board, they can therefore in a same swoop take them down as well. You need to read up a bit more on this, it's not as black and white as you say.

the_randomizer · Dec 12, 2018

AgentChet said:
Remember Chaos? Remember LimeWire? Remember Piratebay? Many platforms can get in trouble even if it doesn't seem totally black and white. Who knows, Romsheperd could be doing what Chaos did a year ago and shutdown before any trouble does show up.

Just look at all the money that they're not making from the games that aren't available digitally. They must be so devastated.

KleinesSinchen · Dec 12, 2018

linuxares said:
You would be surprised how many lawfirms have multiple clients with the same shared intrests. I totally understand what and why they take down the rom sites. Even if the games are older than most people here, it's still their legal option.

In my opinion copyright laws are a problem. Intellectual property has to be protected. Yes. Investments have to be protected. Yes. But why so looong? Nobody will pay me for the work my grandfather has done – sadly he was craftsman, not a bestseller author.
For the USA there comes one thing to my mind: Copyright Term Extension Act. It even has a fitting nickname: Mickey Mouse Protection Act.

But on the other side... Nintendo reminds me of Don Quixote fighting against windmills. Or fighting against a Hydra. Seriously I stumbled upon complete ROM-sets some time ago – without even searching for them as I do not “pirate”. On a site where I never thought to find ROMs (and which Nintendo probably can’t do anything against).

the_randomizer said:
Just look at all the money that they're not making from the games that aren't available digitally. They must be so devastated.

Sometimes I think they(big N) do not want to sell every old game they have the copyrights for. Some old games are really good - and really long. They can not get full price for old games like back then. Better sell full price new games than keeping customers busy with cheap old ones.

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