Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

sorabora · Aug 25, 2018

I’m not banned, still. I’m baffled. Other then not touching LayeredFS and not playing online MP games, I’ve been asking for it. I’m often too lazy to go into OFW when updating. Hell today when I checked to see if I was banned I was in CFW since I was sure I would be. I’ve crashed homebrew about a million times thanks to trying things docked, using macOS, and exFAT. I’ve mass updated tens of XCIs and NSPs. I’ve used FTP for hours. SX OS since a few days after launch.

I keep wondering if I’m somewhat shielded by the fact that I’ve been buying games on the eShop and I keep my credit card information stored. Sounds stupid, probably is, but how am I not banned?

mariogamer · Aug 25, 2018

sorabora said:
I’m not banned, still. I’m baffled. Other then not touching LayeredFS and not playing online MP games, I’ve been asking for it. I’m often too lazy to go into OFW when updating. Hell today when I checked to see if I was banned I was in CFW since I was sure I would be. I’ve crashed homebrew about a million times thanks to trying things docked, using macOS, and exFAT. I’ve mass updated tens of XCIs and NSPs. I’ve used FTP for hours. SX OS since a few days after launch.

I keep wondering if I’m somewhat shielded by the fact that I’ve been buying games on the eShop and I keep my credit card information stored. Sounds stupid, probably is, but how am I not banned?

Because NINTENDO.

Draxzelex · Aug 25, 2018

sorabora said:
I’m not banned, still. I’m baffled. Other then not touching LayeredFS and not playing online MP games, I’ve been asking for it. I’m often too lazy to go into OFW when updating. Hell today when I checked to see if I was banned I was in CFW since I was sure I would be. I’ve crashed homebrew about a million times thanks to trying things docked, using macOS, and exFAT. I’ve mass updated tens of XCIs and NSPs. I’ve used FTP for hours. SX OS since a few days after launch.

I keep wondering if I’m somewhat shielded by the fact that I’ve been buying games on the eShop and I keep my credit card information stored. Sounds stupid, probably is, but how am I not banned?

Maybe because you haven't submitted a ban report yet :smug:

Blue · Aug 25, 2018

Ban? Y
If Yes, provide proof (video preferred)
SX OS used? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.0
What do you use Non-TX LayeredFS for? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? N
Used DevMenu? Y
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Backups updated? Both
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? Y
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? N
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Y
Wi-Fi settings deleted? N
Airplane mode? N
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? N
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? Y
Console/Account Region(s) EUR
Trimmed .XCI? Y
Additional Comments It used to be just a normal ban, but even without CDN usage it became a superban.

chrisisx · Aug 25, 2018

Ban? N
SX OS used? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y to activate only
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.0
What do you use Non-TX LayeredFS for? I only use SX PRO
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? N
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? N
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Backups updated? OFW
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? Homebrew for extraction of owned cert from my cart
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? N
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? N
AutoRCM? Y for 1 week only but already turn if off as battery draining so fast
Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? N i was already on the latest fw
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Y
Wi-Fi settings deleted? N but its on manual connect only
Airplane mode? Y during SXOS only
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? N
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Console/Account Region(s) ASIA
Trimmed .XCI? Y

I think sticking to XCI and staying in airplane mode while in SXOS really helps a lot to not get banned.

sorabora · Aug 25, 2018

mariogamer said:
Because NINTENDO.

I know what I should do. I should call Nintendo, admit my malfeasance point by point, read off my serial number, record the whole conversation bcs the rep will be utterly baffled...and then proceed to never be banned because that is definitely the most Because Nintendo thing I could possibly think of.

bundat · Aug 25, 2018

sorabora said:
I’m not banned, still. I’m baffled. Other then not touching LayeredFS and not playing online MP games, I’ve been asking for it. I’m often too lazy to go into OFW when updating. Hell today when I checked to see if I was banned I was in CFW since I was sure I would be. I’ve crashed homebrew about a million times thanks to trying things docked, using macOS, and exFAT. I’ve mass updated tens of XCIs and NSPs. I’ve used FTP for hours. SX OS since a few days after launch.

I keep wondering if I’m somewhat shielded by the fact that I’ve been buying games on the eShop and I keep my credit card information stored. Sounds stupid, probably is, but how am I not banned?

I can't track the posts down right now, but I've seen a SEVERAL where people were just asking to be banned (updating in CFW, having installed NSPs and playing them without going into airplane mode, etc) but just never got hit, AND more importantly, they ALL claimed they've bought lots of games on the eShop.

I'm starting to think Nintendo has programmed a bit of leeway into their flagging, where someone who has obviously spent a considerable amount on the eShop gets a free pass or two (or maybe it's even a complex formula like they overlook pirated titles if the total cost is less than half of what you've spent... or something like that). Or it's a basic threshold, like spend $500 on games, and ban waves skip you.

Maybe @Draxzelex can start asking in questionnaire how much you've spent in the eShop (in USD)

Although this is the kind of thing where if it becomes public enough, it can stop working, so I dunno.
Just a thought.

Bellebite2000 · Aug 25, 2018

sorabora said:
I’m not banned, still. I’m baffled. Other then not touching LayeredFS and not playing online MP games, I’ve been asking for it. I’m often too lazy to go into OFW when updating. Hell today when I checked to see if I was banned I was in CFW since I was sure I would be. I’ve crashed homebrew about a million times thanks to trying things docked, using macOS, and exFAT. I’ve mass updated tens of XCIs and NSPs. I’ve used FTP for hours. SX OS since a few days after launch.

I keep wondering if I’m somewhat shielded by the fact that I’ve been buying games on the eShop and I keep my credit card information stored. Sounds stupid, probably is, but how am I not banned?

If you want THAT hard to get in trouble, just rob a bank, I am sure you will get the results you are looking for much faster. They might let you bring your Switch with you if you are nice enough with the cops.

ValenValentine · Aug 25, 2018

So my CFW switch was normal banned, but it's been offline. Is the new super ban wave proven to auto target all previous offenders? Seems that way so far...is there a point to continuing to avoid going online for updates at this time, or is it likely that as soon as I try, BAM! This is an unfortunate turn of events, I expected this move but not quite so soon :/

dataslanger · Aug 25, 2018

A few questions/ideas (sorry if this has been asked, but the search was quite inundating in results so I suppose I didn't query properly);

1) AUTORCM: Has anyone enabled AutoRCM and then been banned from Nintendo after going online with Horizon (the default firmware) booted from SX OS' loader?

2) NSPs and 'UPGRADE' ONLINE: Someone stated they were banned for having installed a NSP via Tinfoil or the like and taking the Switch online, thereby allowing the game to attempt to update automatically and, I figure, tipping off Nintendo. Is there a way to prevent apps from attempting upgrades aside from disabling WiFi on the device?

3) Any other tips/tricks anyone is aware of? Has anyone discovered a particular 'integrity server' the Switch may be communicating with, aside from the normal Nintendo servers, that could be targeted for blocking at the DNS or router level?

Thanks,

Dataslanger

Whole lotta love · Aug 25, 2018

sorabora said:
I know what I should do. I should call Nintendo, admit my malfeasance point by point, read off my serial number, record the whole conversation bcs the rep will be utterly baffled...and then proceed to never be banned because that is definitely the most Because Nintendo thing I could possibly think of.

about how much do you think you've spent?

Giga_Gaia · Aug 25, 2018

I haven't been banned yet and I updated xci and installed nsp a lot of times via OFW.

sorabora · Aug 25, 2018

Whole lotta love said:
about how much do you think you've spent?

Almost nothing. What I’ve been doing (as a test) is buying super cheap games approximately once a week from the MX eShop. In fact I did so yesterday when I went online to check for the ban. And some of these are really cheap. Like less than $1 USD.

Jakkal666 · Aug 25, 2018

Woah.. just heard the term "superban". Does it mean you can't update games if you receive a superban?

sim3001 · Aug 25, 2018

Jakkal666 said:
Woah.. just heard the term "superban". Does it mean you can't update games if you receive a superban?

Yea and no system update.

ASSauLTxMasTER · Aug 25, 2018

I guess my regular ban got elevated to a superban. Odd, as I didn't touch FreeshopNX or anything involving my cert.

leonmagnus99 · Aug 25, 2018

3rd update :

tx os user, never used that layered fs thing.
mainly playing nsps

once accidentally ran a nsp while in OFW (which resulted in an error) and i was online!!

and i reboot into ofw to check eshop, and no ban.

downloaded some demos some weeks ago to test out and was still fine. (db fighterz played online) that went fine too.

now in ofw downloaded paladins and playing online and it's still all good.

sim3001 said:
Yea and no system update.

wow this is scary, how do you get a superban ? o.o
this is bad for "new games"

mariogamer · Aug 25, 2018

leonmagnus99 said:
3rd update :

tx os user, never used that layered fs thing.
mainly playing nsps

once accidentally ran a nsp while in OFW (which resulted in an error) and i was online!!

and i reboot into ofw to check eshop, and no ban.

downloaded some demos some weeks ago to test out and was still fine. (db fighterz played online) that went fine too.

now in ofw downloaded paladins and playing online and it's still all good.

wow this is scary, how do you get a superban ? o.o
this is bad for "new games"

Before, it was by using a banned/(non-banned?) cert on dl software (freeshop, etc)
However, now, console bans become superban for apparently no reasons.

leonmagnus99 · Aug 25, 2018

mariogamer said:
Before, it was by using a banned/(non-banned?) cert on dl software (freeshop, etc)
However, now, console bans become superban for apparently no reasons.

that sucks

thorasgar · Aug 25, 2018

mariogamer said:
Before, it was by using a banned/(non-banned?) cert on dl software (freeshop, etc)
However, now, console bans become superban for apparently no reasons.

Lol. I think Nintendo has reasons.

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