Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

NEO-BAHAMUT- · Aug 6, 2018

Draxzelex said:
If you took some time to fill out the questionnaire, you'd already have your answer

Typically, the console is banned and not the account. The way to test this out is by logging into onto their website using the Nintendo Account linked to the banned console and trying to download/purchase anything to your Switch. After that, if you select Update Download Progress from Users, it will begin downloading whatever you got onto your console. Note that this will not work when you are superbanned (Atum banned).

Thanks for clearbig that up. Looks like I have been taught a valuable lesson. If buy a new switch are Nintendo following accounts around and re blocking new consoles that are linked to them? I’ll look at filling in the survey later today.

NEO-BAHAMUT- · Aug 6, 2018

Ok I’ve spoken to Nintendo. Ther is nothing they can do to help me.

I asked if my account would be banned if I linked it to a different console but they couldn’t give me an answer on that. I’m planning on buying a new console but I will probably have to create a new account just to be sure.

PeterToo · Aug 6, 2018

Ban? Y
If Yes, provide proof (video preferred) - it's a console ban... I can still update, but not play anything online
SX OS used? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Y
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? I've not been careful - no idea about cert/header.
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No idea
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.2, but banned using 1.4 to install .nsp
Non-TX Layered FS Used? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? Never used LayeredFS - no idea what it is
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? N
Used DevMenu? N
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N (it was Arcade Archives Mario)
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Backups updated? Both
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? N
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? N
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? What?
Did you install the exFAT update offline? N
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? Y (don't share... nothing blocked)
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: N
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Y
Wi-Fi settings deleted? N (not always)
Airplane mode? N (again, not always)
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? N
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? N
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? I haven't tried to update
Console/Account Region(s) EU
Trimmed .XCI? Y
Additional Comments

This isn't exactly a noob-friendly questionaire, but I hope my answers are still useful. I've only ever used SX OS - no other CFW (wouldn't know how). Haven't played backups online - only games with online function I'm aware of that have been played are Just Dance 2018 and Mario Odyssey and those were legit physical carts. Everything worked - including eshop - until a few days after I installed Arcade Archives NSP titles under SX OS 1.4.

I can still download game updates, even under CFW. But online play has been "restricted"... we've only seen that error in Just Dance 2018 and Mario Odyssey. There is currently no Nintendo account on the Switch, and I don't plan on connecting with the banned Switch.

Ericthegreat · Aug 6, 2018

NEO-BAHAMUT- said:
Ok so I just tried to access the Eshop and it appears that I’m now blocked due to using Team Execute.

So my question is, is it only the console that os blocked? Not my account?

Yes probably.

crow132 · Aug 6, 2018

PeterToo said:
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N (it was Arcade Archives Mario)

just wondering, even if the game is offline, did you started it being connected to the internet?

Draxzelex · Aug 6, 2018

cagycee said:
Banned: N
Used any CDN Downloader: Y
Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: Y
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: N
SX OS used offline: Y
SX OS used online: Y
Played with SX Backups online: N
Layered FS Used offline: N
Layered FS Used online: N
Played with Layered FS Injects online: N
Homebrew Offline: Y
Connect internet with homebrew: Y
Connect to eShop during CFW: Y
Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: N
Does the Eshop work:
Backups updated: Y both cfw and ofw
WiFi settings deleted: N
Airplane mode: N
AutoRCM: N
SX OS Version used when Online: 1.1 also 1.0
Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: N

Not sure where you got this extremely outdated form, but I would kindly suggest taking a look at the updated one in the first post and filling that one out as there is a lot of information missing in your post.

cagycee · Aug 6, 2018

Draxzelex said:

Not sure where you got this extremely outdated form, but I would kindly suggest taking a look at the updated one in the first post and filling that one out as there is a lot of information missing in your post.

Click to expand...

I just copied from someone else and filled it out than the main one. I was also tired. But here's this

Ban? N
SX OS used? Y
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? N
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.3
Non-TX Layered FS Used? N
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? N
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? N
Used DevMenu? Y
Installed any .NSP? Y
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Y
Did you play any .NSP installed online? N
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
Backups updated? BOTH
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? Y
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? Y
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? Y
AutoRCM? N
Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? N
Did you install the exFAT update offline? Y
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: 5.1.0
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Y
Wi-Fi settings deleted? N
Airplane mode? Y and N
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? N (was enabled for a while tho)
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Y
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? N
Console/Account Region(s): America, Europe, Japan
Trimmed .XCI? N
Additional Comments

Draxzelex · Aug 6, 2018

@cagycee I find it strange how some of your answers differ from your post to your second one. Not sure if that was a result of hastily copying someone else's form + answers, but your new input is greatly appreciated!

cagycee · Aug 6, 2018

Draxzelex said:
@cagycee I find it strange how some of your answers differ from your post to your second one. Not sure if that was a result of hastily copying someone else's form + answers, but your new input is greatly appreciated!

I quickly answered the first one. I took my time on the second one. However I don't see a difference on either posts if you can point it out for me. Well I do see SX OS being different but honestly I must have accidentally skipped it on the first one. I honestly don't even use SX OS but that one time for experimental reasons.

XaneTenshi · Aug 6, 2018

I realize that this is (hopefully) outdated news for most of you guys, but I just heard about this a couple days ago and I'd like to know peoples opinions on this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SwitchHacks/comments/8rxg26/psa_strong_antipiracy_measures_implemented_by/

It honestly seems to be that doing things like installing .nsp files and being careless enough to online with them is a 100% guaranteed ban, yet we have people who have done exactly this and are not banned (yet anyway). With the article being written by SciresM of ReSwitched, it seems quite genuine, and it really seems like when it comes to playing NSP backups, Nintendo knows exactly which people have done this. I can't help but wonder if Nintendo is just taking their sweet ass time issuing bans and we are all getting the banhammer sooner or later:/

Anyway, thoughts on this?

Deleted User · Aug 6, 2018

XaneTenshi said:
I realize that this is (hopefully) outdated new for most of you guys, but I just heard about this a couple days ago and I'd like to know peoples opinions on this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SwitchHacks/comments/8rxg26/psa_strong_antipiracy_measures_implemented_by/

It honestly seems to be that doing things like installing .nsp files and being careless enough to online with them is a 100% guaranteed ban, yet we have people who have done exactly this and are not banned (yet anyway). With the article being written by SciresM of ReSwitched, it seems quite genuine, and it really seems like when it comes to playing NSP backups, Nintendo knows exactly which people have done this. I can't help but wonder if Nintendo is just taking their sweet ass time issuing bans and we are all getting the banhammer sooner or later:/

Anyway, thoughts on this?

Installing .nsp files is a huge red flag. You can possibly get away with DLC and maybe updates only. They will round up everyone who is doing suspicious things on their Switch and ban them all at once

PeterToo · Aug 6, 2018

crow132 said:
just wondering, even if the game is offline, did you started it being connected to the internet?

I did! And I instantly realised my mistake. D'oh!

Draxzelex · Aug 6, 2018

cagycee said:
I quickly answered the first one. I took my time on the second one. However I don't see a difference on either posts if you can point it out for me. Well I do see SX OS being different but honestly I must have accidentally skipped it on the first one. I honestly don't even use SX OS but that one time for experimental reasons.

I reviewed your posts and reordered your responses so the ones that don't match line up as shown below.

cagycee said:
Used any CDN Downloader: Y
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: N
SX OS used online: Y
SX OS Version used when Online: 1.1 also 1.0

cagycee said:
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? N
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Y: 5.1.0
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? N
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.3

cagycee · Aug 6, 2018

Draxzelex said:
I reviewed your posts and reordered your responses so the ones that don't match line up as shown below.

Ah I see. See I used an CDN downloader however I never used my own console certifications for it. And with the SXOS, I only used 1.3. The first time answered "SX OS Version when Online:" was someone else's answer that I left. And I never had a license so I just said no to the question. It also depends when you mean "online" with SXOS. I never even launched a game on SXOS. I had an active online connection for that one time use but that was really it. Only cfw I use is ReiNX with sig patches. Sometimes Hekate.

Draxzelex · Aug 6, 2018

cagycee said:
Ah I see. See I used an CDN downloader however I never used my own console certifications for it. And with the SXOS, I only used 1.3. The first time answered "SX OS Version when Online:" was someone else's answer that I left. And I never had a license so I just said no to the question. It also depends when you mean "online" with SXOS. I never even launched a game on SXOS. I had an active online connection for that one time use but that was really it. Only cfw I use is ReiNX with sig patches. Sometimes Hekate.

So basically, you only used SX OS for homebrew until a free solution to play backups came out.

"Online with SX OS" refers to having an Internet connection with SX OS at any point.

And as it turns one of the discrepancies in your answers was because it was copied and pasted.

cagycee · Aug 6, 2018

Draxzelex said:
So basically, you only used SX OS for homebrew until a free solution to play backups came out.

"Online with SX OS" refers to having an Internet connection with SX OS at any point.

And as it turns one of the discrepancies in your answers was because it was copied and pasted.

The funny thing is, I'm surprised that I'm not banned yet because I've actually updated a backup via a switch so if my Switch does get banned, that'll most likely be the reason why. :o The only thing that'll suck about this console being banned would be that I have all my purchases and I purchased a whole bunch of games off this console. Sooo...

Mauste · Aug 7, 2018

cagycee said:
The funny thing is, I'm surprised that I'm not banned yet because I've actually updated a backup via a switch so if my Switch does get banned, that'll most likely be the reason why. :o The only thing that'll suck about this console being banned would be that I have all my purchases and I purchased a whole bunch of games off this console. Sooo...

Console banned does not mean account banned.
I have been console banned for just launching and activating SX OS without having the Switch in Flight Mode.

I cannot access eShop or play games online, but I can still update games and firmware through the normal methods (local wireless play and news channel also work). In addition, I can login to my Nintendo Account through PC and even make purchases there (I just cannot download them to this console banned Switch). I was also able to login to my friend's Switch with my Nintendo Account and access my purchase history and re-download the games I had purchased. So if I ever want to get a new Switch (Switch XL or whatever revision they come up with), I could still connect my account to it and access my purchase history. My Nintendo Account also work on my phone.

So basically if you get console banned, it is essentially the same as being a "physical only" and not subscribing to Switch Online in September. That's it.

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Ban?
Yes
If Yes, provide proof (video preferred):
Every time I try to check eShop or play online I get 2124-4007 error code.
SX OS used?
Yes
Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license?
Yes
Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header?
No.
Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)?
No.
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)?
version 1.3
Non-TX Layered FS Used?
No
Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject?
No
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects?
No
Used DevMenu?
No
Installed any .NSP?
No
Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed?
No
Did you play any .NSP installed online?
No
Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate?
No
Backups updated?
No
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used?
No
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW?
No
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew?
No
AutoRCM?
No
Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses?
No
Did you install the exFAT update offline?
No
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"?
Yes
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online?
No
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings?
Yes
Wi-Fi settings deleted?
No
Airplane mode?
No
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings?
No
Can you use the eShop on the Switch?
No
Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account?
Yes
Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware?
No
Console/Account Region(s)
Europe
Trimmed .XCI?
No
Additional Comments
I simply launched SX OS and activated it while having my Switch normally connected to Wi-Fi. Then I started playing my legitimately purchased games from the eShop (in fact, I only played YS VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana) on SX OS. I made sure not to play games online (ARMS is the only online game I own and I have not played it in 6+ months) or check the eShop while on SX OS. The next day I decided to reboot my Switch and check the eShop on the official firmware and I found myself being banned. So the way I see it, the reason I got banned is because I was running SX OS without having the Switch in Flight Mode.

NEO-BAHAMUT- · Aug 7, 2018

If I buy a new switch and register it with a different email will it just work as expected.

Draxzelex · Aug 7, 2018

NEO-BAHAMUT- said:
If I buy a new switch and register it with a different email will it just work as expected.

It should to be honest. Nintendo has no reason to ban consoles running from the same IP. Just because one person from the family hacks doesn't mean everyone else is. Also, still waiting on that report

becritical · Aug 7, 2018

TheCyberQuake said:
I won't say they don't do that, but I honestly believe it's unlikely they are logging RCM use. That would open the possibility to ban people who had their system repaired by a third party. It would take one accidental power on with the eMMC disconnected to trigger an RCM flag for ban. Also very unlikely they could have any good way to detect a payload being run through RCM as opposed to just an RCM trigger.

So what do they use to determine if the console has been hacked? Cleared log, 'weird' entries in log? If ReiNX runs on the RAM or sd card it shouldn't leave any trace after the console is turned off, only in the log, unless it writes something somewhere else.

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