1. TheCyberQuake

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    Things that happen in HOS. Which likely includes logs like you said, and also likely includes piracy detection and logging along with other telephony triggers. RCM itself however is imo unlikely to be the thing being detected, it's likely just things being done in HOS.
     
  2. mariogamer

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    For now, Nintendo got no ways of detecting cfws/hekate (EXCLUDING any piracy related things (especially layered fs, nsp installing and stuff), that is already confirmed). They may implement it in on coming firmware tho. Banning someone for their sd content is....... meh. (but we don't know)
    Only logs might trigger something (even there we don't fully know) (This might includes title that aren't supposed to exist (btw this is one of the reasons homebrew are probably not going to be installable NCAs (there are other reasons)), clearing error log on firmware 5.x (might get a work around,), mismatch in certain logm etc)
    (Actually other things too might be detected, such as the way of booting, but, for now, I think it is irrelevant)
     
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  3. offsense

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    lol yeah you will be fine
     
  4. MachRc

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    Ban? YES
    SX OS used? YES
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? YES
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? NO
    Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.2
    Non-TX Layered FS Used?NO
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? NO
    Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? NO

    Used DevMenu? NO
    Installed any .NSP? NO
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? NO
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? NO
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? NO
    Backups updated? CFW
    Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? NO
    Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? NO
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? NO
    AutoRCM? NO
    Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? NO
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? NO
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? NO

    What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? NO
    Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? NO
    Wi-Fi settings deleted? NO
    Airplane mode? NO
    Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? NO
    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? NO
    Console/Account Region(s) NA
    Trimmed .XCI? NO





    My kid updated a few(if not all) XCI based games on his sdcard. After three weeks or so, the console is now banned
     
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  5. NEO-BAHAMUT-

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    Ban? YES
    SX OS used? YES
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? YES
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? NO
    Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? I used all SX versions from 1.0 up to 1.4
    Non-TX Layered FS Used? NO
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? NO
    Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? NO
    Used DevMenu? NO
    Installed any .NSP? YES
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? YES
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? NO
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? NO
    Backups updated? YES
    Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? NO
    Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? NO
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? YES
    AutoRCM? NO
    Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? NO
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? NO
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? NO
    What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? NO
    Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? NO
    Wi-Fi settings deleted? NO
    Airplane mode? NO
    Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? NO
    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? NO
    Console/Account Region(s) EURO
    Trimmed .XCI? YES

    I never received any error codes when trying to upgrade the switch firmware.

    No wonder I got banned.
     
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  6. Draxzelex

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    The both of you did not answer the following 2 questions:
    Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Y/N
    Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? Y/N


    Also NEO-BAHAMUT-, you indicated you updated your backups. Was it in CFW, OFW, or a mix of both?
     
  7. NEO-BAHAMUT-

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    Apologies I just copied and pasted the previous post and added my results.

    I updated my backups in CFW only.
     
  8. D-Jay

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    I don't want to get banned.
    As far as we now, XCI with own certs seems to be the safest way to play games.

    I'm wondering if there is a way to convert an nsp to an xci?
     
  9. Digitalcat

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    Been playing both NSP and XCI's with no certs and haven't been banned yet for several waves. Of course, I play offline, without a wifi ever connected, and often switch back to play Splatoon 2 online, after clearing all data on my SSD and removing installed games that aren't legitimate. So, I really don't know how people get banned lad.
     
  10. jarl7

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    Ban? No
    SX OS used? Yes
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? Yes
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? No
    Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
    Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? 1.4
    Non-TX Layered FS Used? NO
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-TX LayeredFS Inject? NO
    Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? NO

    Used DevMenu?
    Kinda, i installed the dlcs for xenoblade 2, but then i thought that would be the most obvious flag ever and deleted the files before opening the game.
    Installed any .NSP? Yes, for a moment as stated above.
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? Yes, i update Fire emblem warriors while xenoblade was installed.
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
    Backups updated? CFW/OFW/Both/ Yes, all my games using sx os.
    Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? No
    Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/non-TX CFW? No
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? No
    AutoRCM? TX/Hekate/Both/ Yes
    Did you update your firmware w/o burning fuses? No
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? No, went online for that.
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? No

    Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Yes
    Wi-Fi settings deleted? No.
    Airplane mode? No
    Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? No
    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Eshop is not available in my country, but i can still access it to enter game codes and i don't get any error codes.
    Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
    Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? NO

    Console/Account Region(s) America
    Trimmed .XCI? Yes, most of my files were trimmed.
    Additional Comments


    I have an original copy of Mario Kart 8 and whenever i wanna play i just switch to original firmware. So far i have been playing online without any problems.
     
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  11. ssssss13

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    I just got a new switch, will be better of if I dont even put the wifi password to avoid all this?
     
  12. Draxzelex

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    I still need the answers for the other 2 questions about using your Nintendo Account on Nintendo's website and if you get an error code trying to update your system firmware. I also just realized you didn't indicate the lowest version of SX OS you used.
    Did you clear error logs at any point? If so, on what firmwares?
    You can just use Airplane Mode since the Switch can connect to Nintendo Hotspots if its close enough. Deleting the Wi-Fi settings is still a good precaution because docking it can disable Airplane Mode.
     
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    No. I did not clear my error logs at any point.
     
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  14. yacepi15

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    If people gets banned because they cleared the logs, that means that logs cannot be cleared by the user in any way, even after a factory reset. So, the only way to have a 100% clean switch again is restoring a nand backup where the console was not modified in any way, right?
     
  15. Draxzelex

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    Correct, its been added already as a preventative measure in the OP (by a mod, mind you so I didn't format/touch it).
     
  16. Codykun

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    As you asked before, here is this:
    My curiosity was peaked on how far you can get away with having NSP content installed while online. This might just be common knowledge and I'm just ignorant enough to not google it, but I did it anyway.

    DISCLAIMER: I did this on 4 "broken yet playable" Switch models I bought from Ebay(e.i. broken screen so only docked, unable to accept joycons so only wired controller, etc.) so your mileage may vary. I did not restore any of the firmwares on the Switch consoles. When a console was banned, I went to the next one. So, do not try any of this if you have even a shred of doubt you may get banned.

    Games Used: Fortnite, Splatoon 2 Physical, and Dead Cells NSP.

    First attempt: Booted into CFW with no airplane mode, Installing NSP through Tinfoil, played NSP, Fortnite, Unable to start application. Loss to Eshop. Ban.

    Second Attempt: Airplane mode while in CFW, installing NSP, then switching airplane mode off, played Fortnite, played NSP, played Splatoon 2. Error. Can still access Eshop, online gameplay is inhibited. I considered this a "ban"

    Third Attempt: Airplane mode while in CFW, installed NSP, played Splatoon 2, airplane mode off, played NSP, Played Fortnite, then Splatoon 2 again. Error. "Ban."

    Fourth Attempt: Airplane Mode CFW, Install NSP, Fortnite, Splatoon 2, NSP, airplane mode off, Splatoon 2, Fortnite, Console Off, CFW Airplane mode on, NSP, Airplane off, Splatoon 2, Fortnite, left Switch on to see if autoban after some time.

    I've started this Monday, August 6th and the fourth Switch has yet to be banned as long as the Tinfoil installed game is run on Airplane Mode. I have yet to see if Switch is banned after some time with a Tinfoil installed NSP. If you're afraid to get banned I would recommend an exclusive Airplane Mode only Switch consoles. I did this as an experiment to see what I could get away with as I like playing online with my Switch.

    Edit: 4th Switch is now banned. Woke up this morning and started playing Splatoon 2 and downloaded Paladins to use more varied games to mess around with and received an error code 2124-4007. Ban.
     
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  17. mariogamer

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    Actually doing this will probably put a redflag.
    And there are other ways of manually doing it.
     
  18. RAGER

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    Yeah, nice question. Like update 1.0.0 console to 5.1.0 and play legit cart games online...
     
  19. Draxzelex

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    I was kinda hoping you would fill out the form for each of the consoles, but maybe my expectations were too high. In any rate, I'll see if I can convert your experiment into data for the spreadsheet.
     
  20. LucioDragon

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    Long story short
    I had sx os since launch day and im not Banned
    I always use sx os in airplane
    I update the games in ofw
    I have already original games that i play online in ofw
    I wanna know if someone is doing like me and doing ok, because, i dont know why but i think that having original games to play prevents to be banned
     
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