Hacking TX SX Faq #2 (Homebrew on all firmware Support and Payload Loading from SD Card!!!

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Where the hell does it say that? I swear, people nowadays can't read english.

  • Q: Does SX OS supports online gaming?
    A:
    SX OS supports playing online. However, we can't guarantee Nintendo is not able to detect you are using SX OS.
    So playing online is at your own risk.

My 3DS has been hacked for years (a9lh/b9s) and i can still play online with downloaded .cias.

This is how misinformation is spread around. TX did NOT say that you will get banned if you play online. Don't twist their words.
Correct. They never said that you WILL get banned .Any modifications, hard and soft run a risk of bans. You can't use the 3ds as an example though. It's different hardware and software. I say, always expect a ban
 

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Once you go online, Nintendo will scanned your sdcard for backup files and will know immediately you are a pirate.

With SKY3DS, the sdcard is inside the cartridge, Nintendo will never find out.

Wrong, the SKY3DS needed to have custom headers in order to dodge the ban hammer. The public dumps had a header that if detected that multiple people were using the header at the same time, they would ban the consoles using that header.
Nintendo cannot simply scan my shit on my console, it's a huge privacy breach and a potential PR disaster.

Correct. They never said that you WILL get banned .Any modifications, hard and soft run a risk of bans. You can't use the 3ds as an example though. It's different hardware and software. I say, always expect a ban

Exactly, they never said that. The user that i quoted implied that it was with 100% certainty that you would get banned.
 

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Q: When you put your Switch into Sleep mode, do I need to insert dongle again upon waking up?
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No, you don't. Just resume playing where you left it.
Interesting. So, warmboot works, unlike on Hekate. I wonder if Atmosphere's first public release will also support this..
 
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Downloaded .cias do not include headers. People playing with .cia games were mostly only banned for doing stupid sh*t like going online with some new Pokemon game two weeks before release.
Cartridge backups / .3ds roms do indeed include headers though and people were definitely banned for playing online with those on Gateway/Sky and the likes that had headers that were used by thousands of people.
The .cxi cartridge backups include headers as well. I would stay the hell away from going online while being in SX OS altogether. If you boot standard OS, the backups are not registered (just laying around there on the SD), that will surely not get you banned. I think there needs to be another solution for updating games than going online on SX OS and updating a backup.

Do you know if .NSP have headers? Those are the cia equivalent for the Switch, right? So would using something like FBI and install those be safe?
 

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Do you know if .NSP have headers? Those are the cia equivalent for the Switch, right? So would using something like FBI and install those be safe?
No idea, sorry, and until there's some way of installing and running them, this information is not of use anyway.
I'll just keep my Switch in airplane mode when running SX OS and don't go online with anything that is not a physical card or eshop purchase.
 

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Soo much sh*t posting its really makes me sad. About the dongle and license "contradiction", those who from max console should know that it was said after first FAQ that you can buy dongle and use it for a multiple consoles, if you of course buy a sxos for each. And about all the hate to TX - is it really worth it? They are pretty well know team, which have earn a lot of respect from Xbox time, and they did a great job with switch, even if they "steal" someone work, they made using payloads pretty simple to end user, it's obvious that in some time there will be free solution with atmosphere (maybe) but for now tx solution is best at least for pirating, and a lot of negative comments based on "enabling piracy on switch" but hey, cfw, HB and hacking always leads to Piracy, TX did they work pretty great, and it's also great for hacking community as well, cause someone will hack payloads from tx, and make, based on it, own free version, and it's just move switch hacking community forward. It's win-win situation for both sides, and if i want to buy it - it's my decision, and, as seen here, only atmosphere fans shouting loud and trying to convince others, that they are wrong, tx buyers just say that they are happy.
Maybe my post looks idiotic, i am sorry, i am not so perfect in English and it's just my opinion
 
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Soo much sh*t posting its really makes me sad. About the dongle and license "contradiction", those who from max console should know that it was said after first FAQ that you can buy dongle and use it for a multiple consoles, if you of course buy a sxos for each. And about all the hate to TX - is it really worth it? They are pretty well know team, which have earn a lot of respect from Xbox time, and they did a great job with switch, even if they "steal" someone work, they made using payloads pretty simple to end user, it's obvious that in some time there will be free solution with atmosphere (maybe) but for now tx solution is best at least for pirating, and a lot of negative comments based on "enabling piracy on switch" but hey, cfw, HB and hacking always leads to Piracy, TX did they work pretty great, and it's also great for hacking community as well, cause someone will hack payloads from tx, and make, based on it, own free version, and it's just move switch hacking community forward. It's win-win situation for both sides, and if i want to buy it - it's my decision, and, as seen here, only atmosphere fans shouting loud and trying to convince others, that they are wrong, tx buyers just say that they are happy.
Maybe my post looks idiotic, i am sorry, i am not so perfect in English and it's just my opinion
But atmosphere is god!!!! you are a heretic to renounce god!!!!! evil man!!!! lol

I agree with you, atmosphere at some point will be one of the best as long as tx do not give support, gateway and cfw at the time when gateway gave support, gateway was ahead for nearly 2 years, it was the only way to piracy, I do not think that this is going to be different with atmosphere, is going to be a good solution for free but no piracy because of the fact that the tx are not noobs in terms of obfuscating their work, so the devs must make their own way of backup loading that I would not expect soon, why? because they hate piracy!!, I remember the first ways of playing backups of the community in 3ds, that sucked so much that Gateway was the best option for a lot of time, as of now there is no way of running 3ds rom files without a gateway, community never figured that out or didnt care but its fun to see notimp and guys like him shout and cry
 

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I was just thinking, so essentially the dongle just injects a bootloader like hehake and then the payload is loaded off the sdcard. Is that why we'll be able to use any payload we want?
 

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I'm sorry but this post is so ridiculous I made an account just to comment.

"Any developer working on that thing, thinks about that questions in the first minutes he's on the task."
Obviously you're not a developer because you would know what goes into organizing a development cycle along with R&D for a complicated project such as a cfw for a current gen console.
Add to that the pressure of beating other solutions to the market and you're faced with 2 choices: deliver a product with limited fleshed out features that work well and build more on top OR deliver a feature-rich product ridden with bugs and/or difficult to use.
You tell me which will sell more.

Almost none of TX's features were designed with the user benefit in mind.
I don't know if you have any knowledge of TX but (and this is just an assumption) they've been around since way before you decided to go around posting ill-informed opinions on forums. Their solutions for hacking previous gen consoles are still being supported, they're still selling well even though they're being pirated to hell by chinese knock-off companies, and they're still the preferred modchips for xbox. They have a pretty good track record in that regard. Their dongle is currently the cheapest ready-to-use solution for using payloads, and they have confirmed you will be able to use your own, essentially not chaining you to their ecosystem. How is that not beneficial to the user? If you don't want their hardware, you can just buy the license. This isn't beneficial enough for you either? The main concern in the post you linked seems to be getting banned by Nintendo. They explicitly say that you may get banned. Furthermore, no one can make a promise like that. No matter the guarantee there's always the risk of being detected. Even on the 3ds people still get banned. If anyone's naive enough to believe they're untouchable, that's on them.
You also touch on the matter of being locked inside their ecosystem. You may be, to a very small extent. However, first of all you're buying a license for a software they own, that is the inherent meaning behind it and you're not being lied to, you just have poor understanding of what you're buying. You pay for a Windows license too, do you also shout at Microsoft for locking you inside their ecosystem? I hope you don't. You are paying to use their software. You are essentially agreeing in advance with the direction they decide to go in the future. And if you bought the dongle and you no longer agree, you're free to use it with your own payloads. How is that a constraint? You're coming across as being entitled with this point.

"The only new thing they didn't have up front, is a two line code change to let you launch the HBL nro."
Again, I don't even think it's worth it to point out how wrong you are and how little you seem to know about developing software. Two lines?

"NLP methodology"
What does pseudoscience have to do with anything? Every business has the right to claim their product is the best. This isn't some jedi mind trick. They're trying to sell their investment. They're advertising. On their own website. That's all there is to it.

"PR accounts roaming in here"
The burden of proof is upon you. Your claim may or may not be true, unless you have reasonable proof. You haven't shown any yet.

Misinformed fear mongering is a bigger problem than someone offering a product you can simply ignore if you dislike.
Thank you!
 

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Let me quote this post for archival purposes. You say a while, I say SAME DAY! :D (Or at most a week)
How much do you wanna bet same day, right away? Let's see any backup loading method counts, sdcard, wifi, usb drive, etc!

I pre-ordered the SX so makes no difference to me but I have my doubt about a fork/plug-in showing up for Atmosphere on day one that allows backup loading. Reason being, with Atmosphere being all open source, why aren't we seeing SOMEBODY working on/releasing beta builds that implements this already? Guessing nobody will bother with it until Atmosphere is 'finished'. But, if the author isn't laying ground work for backups.....'cause "muh morals", somebody will need to build that part of the code base out and this will take time. Not much, but time.

From somebody that pre-ordered a SX, it won't bother me in the least bit if somebody releases a CFW on the same day the SX is shipping and it runs out to be every bit as capable....... and completely free. Not to sound like some millionaire but $45 isn't much money to me. I've been known to waste WAY more on even dumber stuff. :)
 
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Preordered and waiting the day when someone (maybe even TX thru an update) will bring CHEATS because cheats are fun and I don't have much time to play games.
 

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1. its not rushed, they just added hekate ipl to their code
2 atmosphere does not support piracy as it stands right now
3 if you run atmosphere you risk ban as well

all 3 of your points make no sense. just stick to atmosphere because you like free

be honest
1) It is rushed. Saying that features such as Homebrew are not going to be available at launch then a week later saying that you just added it. Along with the fact that big features like emmunand are not going to be available also proves that it is rushed. 2) Yes that is true but I'm willing to bet that rather at launch or a few days later a title installer will be available (such as FBI for the 3ds) which would allow the piracy of all switch games along with the installation of Homebrew onto the switches menu screen. 3) I wasn't really talking about banning... I was more talking about how likely it is to damage or brick your switch.
 
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1) It is rushed. Saying that features such as Homebrew are not going to be available at launch then a week later saying that you just added it. Along with the fact that big features like emmunand are not going to be available also proves that it is rushed. 2) Yes that is true but I'm willing to bet that rather at launch or a few days later a title installer will be available (such as FBI for the 3ds) which would allow the piracy of all switch games along with the installation of Homebrew onto the switches menu screen. 3) I wasn't really talking about banning... I was more talking about how likely it is to damage or brick your switch.

People like myself emailed them and requested these features
They listened and delivered

You can bitch all you want. Don't care
 

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1) It is rushed. Saying that features such as Homebrew are not going to be available at launch then a week later saying that you just added it. Along with the fact that big features like emmunand are not going to be available also proves that it is rushed. 2) Yes that is true but I'm willing to bet that rather at launch or a few days later a title installer will be available (such as FBI for the 3ds) which would allow the piracy of all switch games along with the installation of Homebrew onto the switches menu screen. 3) I wasn't really talking about banning... I was more talking about how likely it is to damage or brick your switch.
so if they add something to atmosphere today and tell you that its going to be in the cfw is being rushed, dude there is only one dump in the cia type format and FBI wasnt something that was made in days, took months to have something good, the thing is that for the 3ds an sdk was leaked with the devmenu, team bbb modified it to work, at first only with gateway and rx tools, but rxtools didnt allow for unsigned cias to run, probably in atmosphere should be something similar, but nobody knows, atmosphere atm is just smoke because we dont know if the devs are going to implement something that would create a piracy environment, I guess they prefer the tx users that is a smaller base to pirate the console, and the larger cheap base to use atmosphere for homebrew
 
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