Hacking Can someone recommend an easy way to short pin 10 without taking apart the joycon?

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Maybe not. But as I said, JoyCon works fine but it's detected as bluetooth not handheld mode. Which means it's not working 100% fine.

Now that is an important detail!

*pfew* no "prebent controllers" on ebay aftermarket after all.. ;) I'm relieved. :)
 

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That's why soldering the spots is probably best inside the joycon. No side effects. Or use one of the jigs.
Can you confirm, that the controller doesnt act as a Bluetooth controller in that instance, because according to logic it still should. :) (Wiring this internally or bending the bin, you are still shortening pin 10 for "desired effect". Switching the short on/off with a little switch would work, but cutting into your Switch controllers housing has limited appeal.. ;) )
 

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It's the pins that couple the controller (i.e detect it's connected) in this case you're not altering the pins you're just grounding pin 10 internally so the pins will still make the correct contact when you slide it in as normal on the exterior.

If you're still concerned make one of the jigs honestly they seem like a nice clean portable non permanent solution.
 

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It's the pins that couple the controller (i.e detect it's connected) in this case you're not altering the pins you're just grounding pin 10 internally so the pins will still make the correct contact when you slide it in as normal on the exterior.
But @kombos mod is internal and he's saying it no longer gets detected in handheld mode. I think we would've heard if this was a known issue already but it's still worth waiting to see what others say.
 

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It's the pins that couple the controller (i.e detect it's connected) in this case you're not altering the pins you're just grounding pin 10 internally so the pins will still make the correct contact when you slide it in as normal on the exterior.

If you're still concerned make one of the jigs honestly they seem like a nice clean portable non permanent solution.

Doesn't it change it's state from HIGH to LOW when you ground it ? :-) Doesn't Switch then expect PIN 10 state HIGH in handheld mode and when get LOW it act as a Bluetooth ? Any permament solutions are permament. When you just solder a wire to short PIN 10 controller wouldn't register as in handheld mode anymore. Additionally from the firmware level running on the SoC it would be possible to check state of the GPIO which normally shouldn't be even triggered in normal circumstances. Hence Nintendo could use firmware functionality to detect state of GPIO connected to PIN 10, and ban console. I agree the cleanest solution would be using a premade jig, however for anyone with basic tinkering skills it's far easier and cheaper just to mount any kind of switch (if you don't like to cut enclosure just use N/O REED switch and magnet to trigger connection). Thats a nice clean and non permament solution. - Well unless magnet in vibration motor doesn't automatically trigger connection in REED switch itself.

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But @kombos mod is internal and he's saying it no longer gets detected in handheld mode. I think we would've heard if this was a known issue already but it's still worth waiting to see what others say.

@subcon959 I've got switch installed so when I short PIN10 it gives me RCM but JoyCon act as a Bluetooth connected controller. However when I change switch position it act as a normal JoyCon in handheld mode. Thats why I don't recommend making any permament mods (bending, soldering spot etc.) on JoyCon. One should be able to disconnect PIN10 from the ground at some point, hence jig or microswitch/REED switch installed inside JoyCon is recommended.
 
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@subcon959 I've got switch installed so when I short PIN10 it gives me RCM but JoyCon act as a Bluetooth connected controller. However when I change switch position it act as a normal JoyCon in handheld mode. Thats why I don't recommend making any permament mods (bending, soldering spot etc.) on JoyCon. One should be able to disconnect PIN10 from the ground at some point, hence jig or microswitch/REED switch installed inside JoyCon is recommended.
I'm just wondering why I haven't seen anyone else mention this, not even the devs. I agree it's a big issue if it's indeed the case.
 
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I'm just wondering why I haven't seen anyone else mention this, not even the devs. I agree it's a big issue if it's indeed the case.

I think I saw that somewhere on the forum already - thats the reason why I have used switch in my mod. However I'm not able to find it now. Well... let everyone who bent pins or did any permament hack check that in HorizonOS on bottom left corner of the menu screen. If JoyCon is not in handheld mode you will see other JoyCon icon.

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I think I saw that somewhere on the forum already - thats the reason why I have used switch in my mod. However I'm not able to find it now. Well... let everyone who bent pins or did any permament hack check that in HorizonOS on bottom left corner of the menu screen. If JoyCon is not in handheld mode you will see other JoyCon icon.

Below is a reddit thread:

joycon6.png
 

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Can anyone give me the right size of the jig's project? I mean this one https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2877484
I never 3d printed before and not really sure that's the right size. 200.002 mm = 20 cm, but that's too large for what i see on pics, like too large... I think it should be like 20 mm= 2cm, not 20cm.
Feels like i'm really stupid somewhere lol. Can anyone give me the right size?

EDIT: oh, it's Model size: 9,1 x 20,0 x 6,0 mm
Strange program -_-
 
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I wonder if i should make a little buisness and sell some jigs in my city, they are very cheap to make in large scale. But i should probably wait for a CFW first.
 

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Someone can explain me how to put the copper wire xD and after that what? If we short pin 10 can we access to pegaswitch and hbl on 2.1 and if we want to access fusee it's 9 & 10?
 

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Someone can explain me how to put the copper wire xD and after that what? If we short pin 10 can we access to pegaswitch and hbl on 2.1 and if we want to access fusee it's 9 & 10?

I would recommend reading forum - or wait when someone post GUI and video guide on youtube.
 

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I don't think you well understand what is this thing about.
I know, you need to do more but I mean what pin we need to short, because I know for RCM after short the pin you have to press the volume up I think and then connect the switch to a pc via USB and a few things more, for The pegaswitch I don't know but I just ask for the pins haha
 

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