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It's not exactly the same. I'm saying an option for it to stop listening for the keycombo would be good for the user to have control over.

Either option would result in "the menu cannot be accessed". Why do you care that it's listening for a key combo? It makes literally no difference, there's no penalty incurred for it doing so. There's just literally no point.

Are you trolling, or just grasping at straws?
 

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Telling someone to 'do it themselves' is still awfully rude. My apologies, but saying "I don't see a reason to not have that choice" doesn't come across as entitled to me at all.

This thread and my posts are just feedback, and I think I'm being pretty civil with my words. I don't feel I've had a single civil response from anyone in this thread, and the constant attacks for simply expressing my thoughts is a problem.



Case in point. Thanks for simply attacking me instead of providing an explanation. Bad civilisation

All I want is an explanation as to why implementing a toggle option would so hard at this point. If it's not, why is bad to want one?
And sure, you can interpret that sentence as a 'demand' or an 'entitled' comment.
They have already explained why they can't do what you suggest. rosalina is now used for some patches, if they implemented a toggle it would only stop the menu from showing up but rosalina and the menu would still be running on the background, to make that toggle wouldn't be so hard but it would be a waste of time cause it would do nothing meaningful other than giving you the illusion that rosalina isn't activated. the default button combination is not that common you would open the menu by accident, so you could just forget the combination and forget that you have rosalina altogether. the developers saw your suggestion and told you their reasoning why it won't be implemented, if you don't like that you're free to use 7.1 or the legacy builds till it becomes absolutely necessary to update.

about recommending luma, most people that sign in to this site just want to know the easiest way to hack their devices, people always recommend the 3ds guide cause it is well documented, always up to date and it handles all things an "average Joe" user would want to do with their 3ds and luma fits that bill, what I fell is that we shouldn't push luma that aggressively on other people, we should only make the recommendation while also explaining why we think its the better choice, it should be enough to say i recommend you to use luma cause it has "x or y" function that other cfws don't have.
 

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That's what I'm doing for now. Especially given the reaction I've received from this thread. I didn't think there'd be such a defensive stance about Rosalina.

The defensive stance is you are being met with is because you don't like how a feature was implemented and you want it your way, which is absurd to reimplement something because a few users can't understand it is already there.
 
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This is a fucking meme. It doesn't give you any more fucking control than if you don't press the fucking buttons in the end.
But it does! I have to use Rosalina to install FBI during CFW install. Then I want to be able to disable it. If need arises in future, instead of having to undo the 'impossible keycombo' manually, I can reenable it in the settings.

I'm 110%, honest to god, not memeing.

WHY
I still haven't gotten a good answer as to how this changes things for the end user.

WHY can I not choose to turn off the menu?
 
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It's not exactly the same. I'm saying an option for it to stop listening for the keycombo would be good for the user to have control over.
CAN YOU PRESS THE KEY THAT IN COMPUTER TERMS IS KNOWN AS "FF"? NO? EXACTLY BECAUSE THE KEY FF CAN'T EXIST, IT'S LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IMPOSSIBLE TO HAPPEN, IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN THE MENU CAN'T OPEN BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DO THE IMPOSSIBLE. YOU KEEP SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING THINKING ALL THE SUDDEN WE'RE GONNA GO AGAINST ALL LOGIC AND FOLLOW YOUR TERMS. WE GAVE YOU A FUCKING PERFECT WORKING SOLUTION AND YOU AVOID IT BECAUSE IT IS NOT EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT IT. FUCKING FORK THE LUMA REPOSITORY IF IT'S THAT BAD AND GET THE FUCK OUT.
 
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But it does! I have to use Rosalina to install FBI during CFW install. Then I want to be able to disable it. If need arises in future, instead of having to undo the 'impossible keycombo' manually, I can reenable it in the settings.

I'm 110%, honest to god, not memeing.

Then delete your configuration file and it'll revert back to the default combo. Simple. No need for a toggle.
 

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I'd like to point this out from a few pages ago:
Placebo option: Add a menu option to "disable Rosalina", but all it really does is disable the hotkey. See if anyone notices that Rosalina is actually still loaded.
That's all I'd want. Literally all I'd want.
What I suggested was literally just ignoring the hotkeys while keeping the menu thread running. It'd be the same as using an "impossible key combination", with the only difference being how it's set up.

This is quite literally something I'd see in /r/talesfromtechsupport, where the user whines that method X is unacceptable but method Y is okay, when in reality they're both identical.
 
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"You don't have a reason for this toggle to be coded"
"you don't have a reason to NOT code this"
"user control"
"putting devs responsibility to code this"

@8BitWalugi how much user control does W7 give you, and why do you want more on your god damn 3DS
 

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I'd like to point this out from a few pages ago:

What I suggested was literally just ignoring the hotkeys while keeping the menu thread running. It'd be the same as using an "impossible key combination", with the only difference being how it's set up.
But having the choice means I can re-enable the menu if I need it

Then oh fucking well. I'm gonna report the thread now as the information you have needed has been given to you.
I'm sorry, I'm not choosing to incite a flame war. I'm being 100% sincere and honest, and polite too. You're filing an unfair report.
 

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But it does! I have to use Rosalina to install FBI during CFW install. Then I want to be able to disable it. If need arises in future, instead of having to undo the 'impossible keycombo' manually, I can reenable it in the settings.

I'm 110%, honest to god, not memeing.



WHY can I not choose to turn off the menu?
http://gbatemp.net/threads/what-is-with-the-cfw-wars.480212/page-9#post-7501754
http://gbatemp.net/threads/what-is-with-the-cfw-wars.480212/page-12#post-7502043
 

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https://github.com/AuroraWright/Lum...d7e65b2/sysmodules/rosalina/source/main.c#L95

Change line 100 to:
Code:
MyThread *errDispThread = errDispCreateThread(), *hbldrThread = hbldrCreateThread();

Remove line 129.

Recompile, install. Et voilà, no more menu.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

I don't have a 3DS. You should add an option to Luma3DS to disable loading 3DS games.
 

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But having the choice means I can re-enable the menu if I need it


I'm sorry, I'm not choosing to incite a flame war. I'm being 100% sincere and honest, and polite too. You're filing an unfair report.
We are being 100% honest as well, you keep giving the same excuse and we gave you like 50 solutions though yet you think there's gonna be some perfect guide and god is gonna suck your dick while doing it.
 

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That's a really weird obsession, no joke. You might need to see a doctor for that, because I can't see how you can live with something like that. Just knowing that you can access the menu annoys you? Really?
Yes things like that actually bother us that much. I installed arch Linux 6 times once because I kept downloading unnecessary packages. I wiped my windows pic twice because I can't stand the fact that there are leftover bits of info from uninstalled programs in the registry. We are well aware of how much more difficult it makes things, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
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